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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:20:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:AFKers are as harmful to the game as more active saboteurs. Both will result in people who aren't suited for New Eden storming off in a huff.
Because nothing says New Eden like AFK....
What makes me really sad about saying that....is that it's true....
I hate you guys....so much....
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Mithridates VI
DUST 411
783
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:AFKers are as harmful to the game as more active saboteurs. Both will result in people who aren't suited for New Eden storming off in a huff. Because nothing says New Eden like AFK.... What makes me really sad about saying that....is that it's true.... I hate you guys....so much....
Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
For some reason, CCP is rewarding them for not helping you. That's an issue but it's not the fault of the player who doesn't want to help. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:38:00 -
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May 6 we-Śll get grouping becoming something that have value, the afking will probably happen only in pubmatches, cause when real isk is involved, afkers will be kicked from the corp and the corp match.
And teamkilled.
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Mithridates VI
DUST 411
783
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:41:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:May 6 we-Śll get grouping becoming something that have value, the afking will probably happen only in pubmatches, cause when real isk is involved, afkers will be kicked from the corp and the corp match.
And teamkilled.
Does AFK currently happen outside of pubs? |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:16:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Natu Nobilis wrote:May 6 we-Śll get grouping becoming something that have value, the afking will probably happen only in pubmatches, cause when real isk is involved, afkers will be kicked from the corp and the corp match.
And teamkilled.
Does AFK currently happen outside of pubs?
Does corp battles mean something now ? (Besides bragging rights) |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2517
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:19:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1159
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son.
I think you're still getting confused about why people AFK. You seem to think we are hiding because we aren't "manning up," but I'll say again, AFKing is done for gaining SP without having to spend time on the game, not because my sole existence is to troll you. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
787
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son.
Calling your own perspective "the logical point of view" is hardly a trustworthy testimonial.
You're allowed to prefer that people play the game or leave. Unfortunately, those aren't the rules of the game.
EDIT: And stop referring to "you guys" when disagreeing with me. I tend to play the game because I actually like DUST. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2517
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:30:00 -
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You play a game, to not play the game.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2015
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:31:00 -
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Forgive me - for I have sinned. I've decided to sabotage blue berries in every skrim game. And I feel prompted to feel secure doing so since CCP advocated such behavior in past events. ^_^ |
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
176
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I love how people still try to justify it to themselves, instead of just admitting how lame they are.
This game, I'm tellin' ya.
People underestimate CCP, read the terms and agreement, CCP doesn't need to tell us their gonna punish the AFK'ers, they simply are just gonna do it and when people kick up a **** storm about it CCP will laugh in their faces, proabalby with a response similiar to "What you complaining about? not like you played our game is it?" |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1160
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You play a game, to not play the game.
I "don't" play the game so I can have enough SP to compete come the REAL game. Because the game I am "not" playing right now is hella bland. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2517
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:34:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:People underestimate CCP, read the terms and agreement, CCP doesn't need to tell us their gonna punish the AFK'ers, they simply are just gonna do it and when people kick up a **** storm about it CCP will laugh in their faces, proabalby with a response similiar to "What you complaining about? not like you played our game is it?"
I severely doubt this would happen, but you have no idea how happy I would be. If this does happen, I will make a video JUST for it. Oh, the lulz, the lulz.... |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
160
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:37:00 -
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Who was the sender? |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
27
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:41:00 -
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Didn't the TC just mean that comment from the in-game voice you hear when you're on the deployment screen for too long? (paraphrasing) "All mercenaries are required by contract to deploy," followed eventually by "your inactivity has been noted in your records," or something?
Or are people actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it? |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
788
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:45:00 -
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Yeva Kalsani wrote:Or are people actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it?
People are actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it. |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
27
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:48:00 -
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http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1266/4706853733_6b06f9bff7_z.jpg |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
446
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:06:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I love how people still try to justify it to themselves, instead of just admitting how lame they are.
This game, I'm tellin' ya. People underestimate CCP, read the terms and agreement, CCP doesn't need to tell us their gonna punish the AFK'ers, they simply are just gonna do it and when people kick up a **** storm about it CCP will laugh in their faces, proabalby with a response similiar to "What you complaining about? not like you played our game is it?" I'd love to see this for no other reason than I'm tired of seeing nerf threads and this would liven things up a bit.
CCP: "What? Your upset we took points from you? We're upset you took advantage of a system that was implemented to help out players who suck at the game but still try. Cry me a river and get back to fighting if you want that SP back some time in the next month." |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You play a game, to not play the game.
The game i want to play will come out in the next years. The game i-Śm willing to play, wil come out May 6. The game that i am playing, is a generic futuristic shooter.
I want the RTS and consequence, not a K/D ratio to brag about. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2522
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:45:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:The game i want to play will come out in the next years. The game i-Śm willing to play, wil come out May 6. The game that i am playing, is a generic futuristic shooter.
I want the RTS and consequence, not a K/D ratio to brag about.
It's just funny that so many people feel entitled to get free rewards, and have such trouble seeing the problem with that.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Natu Nobilis wrote:The game i want to play will come out in the next years. The game i-Śm willing to play, wil come out May 6. The game that i am playing, is a generic futuristic shooter.
I want the RTS and consequence, not a K/D ratio to brag about. It's just funny that so many people feel entitled to get free rewards, and have such trouble seeing the problem with that.
Free rewards? People paying for boosters...with real money.
Didn't realize people standing around waiting to get their SP is considered being rewarded. You get 5 SP per second...where's the free reward?
I can AFK and get 6-8k SP a game with boosters. I play, get 25+ kills, and maybe get 9-10k SP. Where's my "reward" for playing?
People crying about AFK'ers now is starting to look pathetic. Here I thought this was New Eden, home of Harden the **** Up, yet there's soooooo many tears about people AFK.
How about all you crybabies HTFU? Yes? No? Continue crying?
Carry on. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2522
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:54:00 -
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HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?
You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.
It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.
And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?
You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.
It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.
And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao
Abusing an exploit???
IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You get 5 SP per second. How is that an exploit? How is this different to a sniper off somewhere doing nothing in a mountain? Gets 0 kills, and 0 deaths? You're saying he's "abusing an exploit" too?
I get passive SP from not playing the game also...does that make me a cheat? Your argument is brilliant as the 5sp per second mechanic CCP put in!
I haven't seen a single comment from a Dev, or GM saying this is against rules. So until then, all you crybabies can keep shedding tears, taking names, and trying to TK.
Crying on the forums about people being AFK is the most pathetic thing I've seen on this forum. "OOOH NOOOO HE'S GETTING SP FOR NOT PLAYING!! BOOO HOOO! QQ"
While you're at it, complain about people using boosters against people who are not. They are obviously getting an advantage right? Must be an exploit! They're abusing it! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2522
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:03:00 -
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You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.
I can't explain it better.
As you said.
Carry on. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:06:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.
I can't explain it better.
As you said.
Carry on.
On BF3, I get 600 xp for not doing a single thing. I get points for being in the game, and get points for my team winning.
That's an exploit too I guess... i can lvl up my character without playing a single minute.
You have no argument other than people getting "rewarded" for not doing anything, So next time I AFK, I'll pull out a sniper rifle, go on mountain somewhere, and look like i'm sniping. That way, I'm not "abusing an exploit". |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
448
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?
You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.
It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.
And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao Abusing an exploit??? IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You get 5 SP per second. How is that an exploit? How is this different to a sniper off somewhere doing nothing in a mountain? Gets 0 kills, and 0 deaths? You're saying he's "abusing an exploit" too? I get passive SP from not playing the game also...does that make me a cheat? Your argument is brilliant as the 5sp per second mechanic CCP put in! I haven't seen a single comment from a Dev, or GM saying this is against rules. So until then, all you crybabies can keep shedding tears, taking names, and trying to TK. Crying on the forums about people being AFK is the most pathetic thing I've seen on this forum. "OOOH NOOOO HE'S GETTING SP FOR NOT PLAYING!! BOOO HOOO! QQ" While you're at it, complain about people using boosters against people who are not. They are obviously getting an advantage right? Must be an exploit! They're abusing it! Your right Lance, you're not abusing an exploit. You are abusing a mechanic that was put into the game in an attempt to help players who try their best and still fail to make decent SP earnings.
All I'm saying is that if CCP doesn't punish you for abusing a mechanic meant for people who try but fail, that's fine with me since they plan to fix the system. But if they DO decide to snatch away all SP from matches in which you had less than a certain number of button presses or moved under a certain distance or whatever criteria they may or may not plan to use, it'll be funny as hell to watch all AFKers rage over loosing SP they risked nothing to earn. It'll be almost as satisfying as when missile tankers and dropship pilots got their missiles nerfed. ALMOST.
My tear glass isn't in hand, but it's nearby just in case. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
792
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.
I can't explain it better.
As you said.
Carry on. Sorry passive SP, you're an exploit now. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:13:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.
I can't explain it better.
As you said.
Carry on. Sorry passive SP, you're an exploit now.
^ boosters must be one hell of a cheat then. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1068
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:14:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?
You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.
It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.
And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao Abusing an exploit??? IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You get 5 SP per second. How is that an exploit? How is this different to a sniper off somewhere doing nothing in a mountain? Gets 0 kills, and 0 deaths? You're saying he's "abusing an exploit" too? I get passive SP from not playing the game also...does that make me a cheat? Your argument is brilliant as the 5sp per second mechanic CCP put in! I haven't seen a single comment from a Dev, or GM saying this is against rules. So until then, all you crybabies can keep shedding tears, taking names, and trying to TK. Crying on the forums about people being AFK is the most pathetic thing I've seen on this forum. "OOOH NOOOO HE'S GETTING SP FOR NOT PLAYING!! BOOO HOOO! QQ" While you're at it, complain about people using boosters against people who are not. They are obviously getting an advantage right? Must be an exploit! They're abusing it! Your right Lance, you're not abusing an exploit. You are abusing a mechanic that was put into the game in an attempt to help players who try their best and still fail to make decent SP earnings. All I'm saying is that if CCP doesn't punish you for abusing a mechanic meant for people who try but fail, that's fine with me since they plan to fix the system. But if they DO decide to snatch away all SP from matches in which you had less than a certain number of button presses or moved under a certain distance or whatever criteria they may or may not plan to use, it'll be funny as hell to watch all AFKers rage over loosing SP they risked nothing to earn. It'll be almost as satisfying as when missile tankers and dropship pilots got their missiles nerfed. ALMOST. My tear glass isn't in hand, but it's nearby just in case.
Hey, I'll be on a mountain sniping... don't ever say I didn't try cuz I went 0-0... i'm a terrible sniper
Edit: CCP can't take away SP from people who used boosters. They never commented about it being a cheat, so unless they want to refund people their money back, they can't take away SP. Demanding that they do is being a drama queen. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
448
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:24:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?
You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.
It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.
And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao Abusing an exploit??? IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You get 5 SP per second. How is that an exploit? How is this different to a sniper off somewhere doing nothing in a mountain? Gets 0 kills, and 0 deaths? You're saying he's "abusing an exploit" too? I get passive SP from not playing the game also...does that make me a cheat? Your argument is brilliant as the 5sp per second mechanic CCP put in! I haven't seen a single comment from a Dev, or GM saying this is against rules. So until then, all you crybabies can keep shedding tears, taking names, and trying to TK. Crying on the forums about people being AFK is the most pathetic thing I've seen on this forum. "OOOH NOOOO HE'S GETTING SP FOR NOT PLAYING!! BOOO HOOO! QQ" While you're at it, complain about people using boosters against people who are not. They are obviously getting an advantage right? Must be an exploit! They're abusing it! Your right Lance, you're not abusing an exploit. You are abusing a mechanic that was put into the game in an attempt to help players who try their best and still fail to make decent SP earnings. All I'm saying is that if CCP doesn't punish you for abusing a mechanic meant for people who try but fail, that's fine with me since they plan to fix the system. But if they DO decide to snatch away all SP from matches in which you had less than a certain number of button presses or moved under a certain distance or whatever criteria they may or may not plan to use, it'll be funny as hell to watch all AFKers rage over loosing SP they risked nothing to earn. It'll be almost as satisfying as when missile tankers and dropship pilots got their missiles nerfed. ALMOST. My tear glass isn't in hand, but it's nearby just in case. Hey, I'll be on a mountain sniping... don't ever say I didn't try cuz I went 0-0... i'm a terrible sniper Edit: CCP can't take away SP from people who used boosters. They never commented about it being a cheat, so unless they want to refund people their money back, they can't take away SP. Demanding that they do is being a drama queen. No demanding here, just hoping to see the fireworks.
As for sniping, give the charged rifle with 3 complex damage mods a chance. OHK's 99% of all militia suits, scouts and Type-l non-heavies, and there are plenty out there right now since vet's are bleeding out of the game lately. You're bound to get lucky once or twice a match and at least connect a shot.
As for boosters/AUR/SP/etc take-backs/refunds, they may be considering it. You never know what they'll do when under pressure: http://www.dust411.com/2013/04/10/merc-pack-refund-debate-update/
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