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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 00:40:00 -
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I didn't get one :(
Who is maintaining this official list? |
Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 00:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.
Omg the lulz
They've had ample time to discourage this and haven't done so.
Retribution at this stage would be a really lame move. |
Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 00:54:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Retribution at this stage would be a really lame move. Because AFK farming isn't equally or more lame Because taking time off from improving the game to spite players that found an exploit in their poorly designed game isn't equally or more lame.
If they consider it an exploit, they've had long enough to say so.
IMO, it would be an exploit if it was a theoretically solid design with an oversight in it.
This isn't a solid design, it's a design which blatantly rewards lack of effort. That's on them. |
Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 00:55:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:OH noooo there's a list!??!!!
Curious to see if this list is published here on the forums. Pretty sure it violates the terms of use.
Threaten, harass, "stalk", abuse, slander, defame or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;
^ without proof, I'm pretty sure it's slander :P
I don't think it's slander to put a game identity on a list for AFKing... nor do I think game identities need to be concerned about privacy with respect to public in-game actions.
Previous lists of AFK players have been locked for being stupid. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:03:00 -
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They definitely don't like it. Devs have been in IRC saying very clearly "we don't like AFKing we want players to play the game" but it's their responsibility to make a game in which playing is more worthwhile than AFKing, both in terms of ISK/SP rewards and player enjoyment. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:14:00 -
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ITT: People who feel like playing the game demonise AFKers to feed their own delusions of grandeur. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:15:00 -
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ISuperstar wrote:It was me who sent the messages on an Alt of mine. If I catch you AFKing.Farming in the MCC like a p@ssified B#tch, you're getting blacklisted you motherfkers. I've added everyone in this thread who has admitted to AFKing to the list as well.
The players who are on this list, have a reaaaalll special treat coming to them and their respective Corps. Until that treat arrives enjoy Farming in the MCC for as long as you can, because judgement is coming real soon @ssholes.
Very accurate process you have there, arbitrarily adding whoever you please to your little list. |
Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:16:00 -
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AFKing: Not against the rules.
Evading content filter to forum rage: Actually against the rules. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:23:00 -
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This theoretical list has been added to the master list of lists.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65529&find=unread |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:40:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Previous lists of AFK players have been locked for being stupid. Their goal is to prevent vigilante justice. The last thing CCP wants is cyber bullying, hacking, or a real life confrontation making its way into the news. It attracts the most dangerous kind of PvP, the litigation kind. Are you replying as if I had some other reason for mentioning that?
I just can't quite figure out why that needs explaining. |
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:41:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Previous lists of AFK players have been locked for being stupid. Their goal is to prevent vigilante justice. The last thing CCP wants is cyber bullying, hacking, or a real life confrontation making its way into the news. It attracts the most dangerous kind of PvP, the litigation kind. Are you replying as if I had some other reason for mentioning that? I just can't quite figure out why that needs explaining. It wasn't meant to be a put down. Sorry about that. The "stupid" statement will be taken seriously by some people. Hence the clarification.
Gotcha, yeah. Probably best to elaborate on "stupid". |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 22:53:00 -
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AFKers are as harmful to the game as more active saboteurs. Both will result in people who aren't suited for New Eden storming off in a huff. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:19:00 -
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If time spent in game is something they want to reward, they could even include that as a modifier but have WP earned in battle as the base value. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:AFKers are as harmful to the game as more active saboteurs. Both will result in people who aren't suited for New Eden storming off in a huff. Because nothing says New Eden like AFK.... What makes me really sad about saying that....is that it's true.... I hate you guys....so much....
Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
For some reason, CCP is rewarding them for not helping you. That's an issue but it's not the fault of the player who doesn't want to help. |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 23:41:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:May 6 we-Śll get grouping becoming something that have value, the afking will probably happen only in pubmatches, cause when real isk is involved, afkers will be kicked from the corp and the corp match.
And teamkilled.
Does AFK currently happen outside of pubs? |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.
Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son.
Calling your own perspective "the logical point of view" is hardly a trustworthy testimonial.
You're allowed to prefer that people play the game or leave. Unfortunately, those aren't the rules of the game.
EDIT: And stop referring to "you guys" when disagreeing with me. I tend to play the game because I actually like DUST. |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 01:45:00 -
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Yeva Kalsani wrote:Or are people actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it?
People are actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it. |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.
I can't explain it better.
As you said.
Carry on. Sorry passive SP, you're an exploit now. |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 03:32:00 -
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On this: There is no reason to believe SP will be deducted. CCP hasn't spoken to that with regards to the reimbursement program.
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.12 04:08:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:*Sighs*
But........am I being unethical? Not until CCP says it's a bad thing, verbatim, not some, "We'd prefer if you didn't," bull.
Am I being selfish? Yes. However, even though I know it's an evasion, I could just as easily call you selfish for not camping with me. As far as I know, Skirmish has no time limit, so if everyone camped, we'd all get massive SP rewards from a single game. You are cheating all these poor SP-less blueberries out of easily earned SP by discouraging AFKing.
I think the skirmish time limit is the 20-25 minutes it takes for the MCCs to destroy one another. |
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Mithridates VI
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Posted - 2013.04.12 06:19:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:On this: There is no reason to believe SP will be deducted. CCP hasn't spoken to that with regards to the reimbursement program. I wasn't suggesting there was cause to think they would, I've said several times I'm fine whether or not they do it. I was pointing out that if enough people pressure CCP, it might happen. They do all kinds of things due to audience pressure, and if they are planning to refund merc packs, boosters and all, the only way to not give away free SP boosters and AUR would be to remove SP gained via boosters. Which is a possibility as far as I can tell since they've yet to say it's off the table. And if there is a chance they will be messing with peoples SP allotments, there's also a chance that they may penalize at least those players who openly admit to abusing a mechanic publicly. Like, say, here in the forums. Where it's all been flaunted for the world to see what they did. I clarified because some have read that as confirmation that SP resets have been put on the table. |
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