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CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 851	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:06:00 - [1] - Quote There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers-

Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2669	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:09:00 - [2] - Quote 1. YES 2. Dont see why not 3. meh not important, can leave it at 0
REMNANCY 1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:16:00 - [3] - Quote 1.Yes though different ways to tax would be good like daily versus income 2.yes 3.Entirely not needed
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:18:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1. Yes. 2. If separate tax rates is relatively easy to accomplish, then yes. But I'd still be happy with a singe rate. 3. Hard to say without knowing what % of people go into player corps as is, but I would be happy with an NPC corp tax rate of ~15%.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 108	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:23:00 - [5] - Quote i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend.
US PWWN Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:23:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes (10-15%)
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 876	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:24:00 - [7] - Quote Corp tax is hugely important and while it's not been NEEDED before now, it would have made things a lot easier to have it in already before PC is launched. Having said that, i'd like to see different tax rates for EVE and Dust players if possible, we'd use the same tax rate personally but i could see other people wanting it. NPC corps should have a reasonably high taxrate too i think to encourage people to play the game socially, as intended. Maybe something in the 15-20% range otherwise having corps with Tax and NPC corps without tax will allow tax evasion for a start and impact corps and PC in a large way.
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy ROFL BROS 384	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:25:00 - [8] - Quote "Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do, and that Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do" - Mark Twain I don't feel like a mercenary if I am obliged to pay my corporation a portion of my earnings. That makes me feel like a worker, and suddenly, as Twain observes, I don't want to be in a corporation anymore. If this system is implemented though, there's tax wherever I go, because we're automatically thrown into NPC corporations. The freedom is lost; and play becomes work. Unless the rates are really low. Even then, though, I feel a tax detracts from that sense of being truly mercenary.
US PWWN Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:29:00 - [9] - Quote slypie11 wrote: i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend. So personally, i'm against mandatory taxing. If they taxed it like they taxed EVE it would be a income tax. Example 1 - So if you go offline with 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account there would be 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account when you log back in (no matter how long you were gone). Example 2 - If you played a Pub match and made 271,350 ISK in reward, while your corp had a 10% tax rate, then 27,135 ISK would be deposited in your corps wallet and 244,215 ISK would be deposited in your personal wallet.

CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 852	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:31:00 - [10] - Quote US PWWN wrote: slypie11 wrote: i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend. So personally, i'm against mandatory taxing. If they taxed it like they taxed EVE it would be a income tax. Example 1 - So if you go offline with 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account there would be 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account when you log back in (no matter how long you were gone). Example 2 - If you played a Pub match and made 271,350 ISK in reward, while your corp had a 10% tax rate, then 27,135 ISK would be deposited in your corps wallet and 244,215 ISK would be deposited in your personal wallet. Yes this is how it would work.


bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 44	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:32:00 - [11] - Quote 1: Yes 2: Yes 3: Good idea; Maybe below 10% not to get them to seek lower but to get them accustom to paying some sort of tax because from my experience I found that new players joining a corporation come in not expecting the corporation tax...
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 108	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:34:00 - [12] - Quote US PWWN wrote: slypie11 wrote: i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend. So personally, i'm against mandatory taxing. If they taxed it like they taxed EVE it would be a income tax. Example 1 - So if you go offline with 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account there would be 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account when you log back in (no matter how long you were gone). Example 2 - If you played a Pub match and made 271,350 ISK in reward, while your corp had a 10% tax rate, then 27,135 ISK would be deposited in your corps wallet and 244,215 ISK would be deposited in your personal wallet. Good. This is a lot better than, say, a 1k tax every day. I don't play very often, so I wouldn't be able to make that money up in the few free days I have.
Liquid Big Boss Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 89	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:41:00 - [13] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: 1. YES 2. Dont see why not 3. meh not important, can leave it at 0 same idea
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 192	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:42:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- Yes Mirror it like it is in EVE A DUST corp should be in the same boat as an EVE corp 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes
EUk3sEI Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 27	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:50:00 - [15] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 876	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:56:00 - [16] - Quote Nuillabor, theoretically how long would this take to switch on?.. I'm not asking for time line, just a rough ball park idea. 3 months? 2 weeks? 6 years?
Vectar Locke Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:57:00 - [17] - Quote Please include if you are a director of a corp or not when answering question 1.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 1036	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:03:00 - [18] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: 1: Yes 2: Yes 3: Good idea; Maybe below 10% not to get them to seek lower but to get them accustom to paying some sort of tax because from my experience I found that new players joining a corporation come in not expecting the corporation tax... I agree with this statement in its entirety. Players should be accustomed to being taxed (while in npc corps) so that they are NOT discouraged from joining player made corporations. Should it be higher? Possibly but doesn't matter. Because tax rates may vary from corp to corp and may change due to corporation's needs
Gilbatron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 85	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:03:00 - [19] - Quote 1. Yes 2. big no no no, space communism in eve is possible (Corp hangars), but it's impossible in dust, high tax rates on the eve side would be justified, but high tax rates in dust would be ridiculous (subject to change if some kind of shared item pool comes available, but even in that case, different policies in eve and dust make very much sense and should be supported) 3. Yes
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 193	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:06:00 - [20] - Quote Vectar Locke wrote: Please include if you are a director of a corp or not when answering question 1. It doesnt matter if you are a CEO or not How does the corp expect to get funding? from donations? half wont donate, a small tax makes sure everyone puts in anyways Also it should be on the end of game screen also so you can see how much the corp takes from your earnings after every match

Gersh Raven beta Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 57	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:07:00 - [21] - Quote 1 Yes. 2 Yes. 3 Yes. Make it 11% like the Eve starter corps
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 474	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:10:00 - [22] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Same rate across corp but having a separate rate might be preferable for some corps. 3. Same rate as EVE NPC corps. To those complaining that you are an employee and paying your corp is wrong don't forget that corps need a means a paying for corp level activities which in turn give you the opportunity to make even more. Donations are possible but you end up with freeloaders or key people that end up paying for everything.
Fleen Costell'o Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 22	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:12:00 - [23] - Quote 1/ Yes 2/ Yes 3/ Yes
Dexter Peabody Immobile Infantry 29	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:13:00 - [24] - Quote SKYPE LEAK [9:56:58 AM] Cerebral Wolf: Tell CCP we need corp tax please ok cw, ok edit: what we really need though are jetpacks
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 413	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:19:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. YES, tax rate should be 15%-20%. Should be something significant, so people will be encouraged to leave.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 876	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:25:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter Peabody wrote: SKYPE LEAK [9:56:58 AM] Cerebral Wolf: Tell CCP we need corp tax please ok cw, ok edit: what we really need though are jetpacks Jetpacks would be better.
Alcare Xavier Golden DUST University Ivy League 138	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:26:00 - [27] - Quote Taxes are vital for a successful corp as this game progresses It may be a very good idea to be able to set different rates for EVE vs DUST members, particularly since the economies are not in balance yet. NPC corps should have a nominal tax of 10-15% to familiarize them with the mechanic and motivate traffic to player ran corps to drive player experience.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 108	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:26:00 - [28] - Quote why even have NPC corps
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:30:00 - [29] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes but with possibility to have seperate taxes (Eve should be apllied by default) 3. Not a bad Idea mybe 10% And please let us see more financial details. I want to see what income comes from what source and where the money goes...
Coyskurk 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 61	Posted - 2013.04.06 15:30:00 - [30] - Quote 1. Absolutely, no questions asked 2. Go ahead 3. Neh...



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