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Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 150	Posted - 2013.05.17 03:33:00 - [211] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1: Yes 2: Yes 3: Yes I used to run my own corp back in EVE and one of the things that used to ROYALLY get on my (Ample) breasts was players who couldn't get their head around WHY I needed to tax them at all. They treated the place like an extra chat channel sometimes or like any other MMO. One important thing I think you need to do, CCP is explain in a VIDEO (People will skip text!) why the Corp Tax is an absolutely essential part of the game and why it's needed. I can see so many directors and CEOs getting INFURIATED at the console crowd for complaining about this.
Phoenix Archer 128 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 164	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:26:00 - [212] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? Yes CCP Nullarbor wrote: 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? No; I mean, it can be, but if the Dust side needs more ISK flow than the EVE side (or vice-versa) taxing the other more will be an issue CCP Nullarbor wrote: 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? I say yes; I know in EVE its 11%, but I think 8% would be good in Dust (since you need ISK a lot more early in Dust just to get the essential skillbooks [given for free in EVE, not in Dust and are MUCH cheaper in EVE]. After the core skillbooks are bought than I feel it is about even in how both sides need a ton of ISK, but its that early part that really matters. We need some free books in Dust lol). There also needs to be a message stating the tax or something too if this is implemented.
PADDEhatpigen BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 13	Posted - 2013.05.18 07:35:00 - [213] - Quote 1. YES. 2. YES. 3. NO. New players need there isk, and players that DONT want to be part of a player Corp should not pay tax. Corp taxes would mostly be used to benefit its members in some way, its used for wars and payouts to players, and things like that. Player Corps should be able to set taxes all the way from 0-100 %. Just like we can in eve. Also we need to be able to set acces or restrictions for players to the Corp wallet. The lone wolfs and new players in NPC Corps should get to keep there hard erned isk. Its tuff to be out there all alone in New Eden. hehe
Crucias Soulreaver Gothic Wars Consortium 4	Posted - 2013.05.18 08:04:00 - [214] - Quote Yes Allow us to set the tax on Mercs and Pilots seperately, those who wish equality can set it as such. Those who wish to tax Mercs higher (to offset free handouts) can also do so Yes - make it a value that is above average for corps. That way new people are encourage to move to Corps because they'll save some money
TODDSTER024 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2013.05.18 08:41:00 - [215] - Quote 1- yes 2- i dont know how it works in EVE 3- no. If it starts, i will just make my own corp and not have to pay
madd greazy OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 75	Posted - 2013.05.18 09:09:00 - [216] - Quote 1. yes 2. yes 3. Same as mixed corp tax rate.
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist 0	Posted - 2013.05.19 02:32:00 - [217] - Quote 1. Definitely yes. 2. Yes. 3. Yes, but provide some explanation to new players as to what is going on.
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 32	Posted - 2013.05.19 02:56:00 - [218] - Quote Yes Yes Sure, but will probably be fine if left as is.
KEQ Harbinger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2013.05.19 03:20:00 - [219] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1. YES 2. Dust tax rate should be able to be set differently than eve corp tax rate. 3. Default 0%.
NeckBone PooKiNuZz Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.19 03:46:00 - [220] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Not yet- Most Ps3 owners just found out about Dust. Give them a chance to figure things out. Taxing Starter corps will turn away new players already overwhelmed with the Newness and complexity of Dust. Id like them to have a better chance to free themselves from a prison they dont know they're in. I can hear it now "Wait... i have to buy all my suits? is SP like XP? On top of all that im getting taxed!? Time to play BLOPS"

Mads Katter Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 18	Posted - 2013.05.19 05:46:00 - [221] - Quote YES!!!!! Yes, especially since the two wallets (EVE/Dust) are separate and inaccessible by the other. If EVE side gets too greedy or doesn't care about the poor Dust Merc and raises the tax too high there will be plenty of corps out there ready to welcome in new members with a lower Tax. Business is business after all, some are just doomed to fail by stupid decisions. Yes. 15-25%......Or perhaps have a tax rate that increases the longer a player is in the NPC Corp. Start out at 0% for the First week. 5% the Second week and so on in 5% increments to a max of 30%
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:06:00 - [222] - Quote I'm no economist so I'll leave the others alone, but I'll just pop in to say that the 3rd option would make the game even MORE of a hell for new players.
Darkkis78 Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement 20	Posted - 2013.05.19 08:25:00 - [223] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 10%-20%
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.05.21 20:49:00 - [224] - Quote So...when? We CEOs are still waiting for any info on this... you guys promised you would have a talk with ceos at fanfest, so far zilch... There is no way smaller corps have a way of getting more cash for pc at the moment...
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.05.22 11:45:00 - [225] - Quote Can anyone give some feedback on this? A gm or dev would be nice... With PC on full strenght getting the taxes working is a must.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement 430	Posted - 2013.05.22 11:59:00 - [226] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes It seems the community is quite unanimous in this. Now DO IT.
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.05.22 12:11:00 - [227] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes It seems the community is quite unanimous in this. Now DO IT. indeed... we are still waiting :(, and its a fundamental resource in any corporation.
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE The Superpowers 1	Posted - 2013.05.22 12:52:00 - [228] - Quote Feedback please!!!!!
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries 84	Posted - 2013.05.22 13:17:00 - [229] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Perhaps (depending on LoE required and how ISK values with flunctuate between games) 3. Yes With point 2 my only concern would be that EVE players will be generating far more ISK than Dust players and corp taxes might be set accordingly which may or may not impact Dust514 corp member negatively.
Loki Keller Corvus Conspiracy 4	Posted - 2013.05.22 13:23:00 - [230] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. No, 0%, player corps have enough advantages over npc corps, this aint needed.

10mg PLUMBUM Academy Inferno CRONOS. 271	Posted - 2013.05.23 09:32:00 - [231] - Quote 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 20%-25% PS When it will finished? And when you will do it?
Evil-Stuffed-Animal Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 32	Posted - 2013.06.07 21:28:00 - [232] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about corporation taxes after our dev blog update to Planetary Conquest so I wanted to start a thread specifically on that. 1. Are you in favour of having a corporation tax system, allowing directors to specify a % percentage of all income earned by mercenaries to be taxed and delivered to the corporation wallet? 2. Should this be the same tax value that is used in EVE for mixed corporations? 3. Should we set tax on NPC corporations as well to encourage players to find player corporations that may have a cheaper tax rate? What would the default tax rate be? Cheers- 1. Yes 2. Don't Know 3. Yes, 15%
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 318	Posted - 2013.06.07 22:41:00 - [233] - Quote Aerion Spiritus wrote: 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes for the NPC Corporation tax, BUT rather than the ISK just going into the void, put it into tournaments, merc battles, events etc. That way their isn't just a black hole in the economy but instead the money going back. I just noticed this and I think that this is an awesome idea. Maybe pool all of the tax income for each faction and use it for the payouts when fighting for that faction.
Sponglyboy Squaredoo Not Guilty EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:19:00 - [234] - Quote A limit of 2 million ISK a day per player. % would accumulate too much of a price that members would hate.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 318	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:27:00 - [235] - Quote Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: A limit of 2 million ISK a day per player. % would accumulate too much of a price that members would hate. If they're playing so much that they are getting taxed 2m ISK per day they are getting 8m+ ISK for themselves and if not, they need to find/make a different corp.
Sponglyboy Squaredoo Not Guilty EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:32:00 - [236] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: A limit of 2 million ISK a day per player. % would accumulate too much of a price that members would hate. If they're playing so much that they are getting taxed 2m ISK per day they are getting 8m+ ISK for themselves and if not, they need to find/make a different corp. That is up to the CEO to decide if they would need to step to the maximum. Note that I said Maxiumum, not minimum. The people who are agreeing to 30% Tax most likely don't know they're agreeing to. For people who hold A lot of ISK, would be furious. In one day, a 30% tax would deduct 90M ISK from me alone.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 318	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:35:00 - [237] - Quote @Sponglyboy How do you think that Corp Tax works? In order for a 30% corp tax to take 90m from you in one day, you'd need to be playing constantly and getting ridiculous payouts. You'd need to be making 300m ISK per day from instant battles for you to lose 90m ISK in a day to Corp Tax.
Sponglyboy Squaredoo Not Guilty EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:42:00 - [238] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: @Sponglyboy How do you think that Corp Tax works? In order for a 30% corp tax to take 90m from you in one day, you'd need to be playing constantly and getting ridiculous payouts. You'd need to be making 300m ISK per day from instant battles for you to lose 90m ISK in a day to Corp Tax. Maybe you haven't been playing Dust long enough so allow me to inform you. Players who were here since Chromosome walked into Tranquility as Rich basterds. All the Useless salvage that was earned on the battle was all worth something. EVERYTHING was reimbursed. I woke up in my Merc Quarters with 300 Million ISK sitting out of my door with a note on it saying Live free. This happened to pretty much everyone. I can't name anyone who didn't become rich off Chromosome. Now that that's cleared up. I never said I make 300M ISK a day off Instant Battles a day. I have 300M ISK. A Corp made up of member who came from Chromosome will make that corp extremely rich, and all the members in there that lost their ISK, extremely angry. Very easy way for one person to walk away calling 50+ people dunces.
Driftward Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 167	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:43:00 - [239] - Quote Any word on when a corp tax would be implemented? 1.2? or are we talking later patches?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 318	Posted - 2013.06.07 23:47:00 - [240] - Quote @Sponglyboy Are you under the impression that you'd be losing ISK from you personal wallet to the Corp Tax? If you are, you're mistaken, all Corp Tax Income will come straight off the top from your Instant Battle Payouts, you will only technically be losing out on ISK. Unless of course, CCP decides to drastically change how Corp Tax works (though I am operating under the impression that Dust Corp Tax will tax Instant Battles/FW Instant Battles in a similar fashion to how Eve Corp Tax taxes Mission payouts). Also, I've been here over a year now, how long have you been here?



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