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slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 14:23:00 -
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i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend. |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 14:34:00 -
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US PWWN wrote:slypie11 wrote:i'd say make it a tax on income, if anything. I don't play very often, so I don't have a lot of money, and anything I make goes into restocking lost fits. What would happen if I did't have any more money left. Would taxes be taken out of my account while I was offline. I would have no time to remake the money until the weekend. So personally, i'm against mandatory taxing. If they taxed it like they taxed EVE it would be a income tax. Example 1 - So if you go offline with 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account there would be 2,325,123,671 ISK in your account when you log back in (no matter how long you were gone). Example 2 - If you played a Pub match and made 271,350 ISK in reward, while your corp had a 10% tax rate, then 27,135 ISK would be deposited in your corps wallet and 244,215 ISK would be deposited in your personal wallet. Good. This is a lot better than, say, a 1k tax every day. I don't play very often, so I wouldn't be able to make that money up in the few free days I have. |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:26:00 -
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why even have NPC corps |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:41:00 -
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If we get taxes, I want the option to overthrow the CEO if taxes get high. Taxation without representation. |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 18:38:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Generally if you are being taxed then you receive services from the Government as a result of being a member or citizen. At the moment with the power solely in the hands of the directors they could set a tax on all members but the only ones that get to use the money are the elite members of the corp during battles be it PC, Instant or corp. All the rest of the members see is a corp taking your money and others having fun with it in their 'paid by you' proto suits.
I would rather see a profit sharing scheme so all members feel involved. It could work as follows:
The corp sets a base % that all members contribute and if the corp makes a profit from the sale of clones , and other stuff in the future, then that profit is shared among all members of the corp based on that percentage set. If you contribute more then you get a larger percentage of the profit. As part of it the corp would set up an additional fund that diverts a percentage of the profit into to help with future projects. So what you would have is a corp contribution of say 10% and the corp makes a profit and 80% goes to the members and 20% goes into the future defence fund. Of course this only works if a corp is profitable.
The way PC is set up then it would be insane for any Corp to field anything less than their elite players during all PC battles which means that the rest of the corp has no real involvement and never sees any benefit from the tax as it all goes to equipping the elite players.
For those corps that are not profitable then as an alternative they could provide useful services such as seminars on how the UI works, what skills to invest in and actual training events so that their members see some benefit from the money they are "taxed".
Otherwise all that you are describing is nothing more than a parasite I.e. the corp taxes you and you see no benefit as it is all going to the directors and elite members. For the majority of the player base what is the incentive to pay taxes and more importantly keep on paying taxes to a given corps.
Done right the idea of a tax, or whatever scheme is thought up, could create a sense of community as corps try to entice players to their corps because of what they provide to all of their members,not just the best players, but if done wrong you will see big move to NPC corps just so players can spite those who do benefit from the tax levied on them.
If you want to levy a tax then what will you provide in return? Finally, someone who stick up for the little man. I don't want to give money to fund endeavors I will never be a part of or be able to see the results of. If we got something in return, that would at least lessen the blow. In the future, maybe a percentage of the taxes could be used to by items to put in the corp vault, which could be used by corp members for free. |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 18:49:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:slypie11 wrote:If we get taxes, I want the option to overthrow the CEO if taxes get high. Taxation without representation. ^this made me laugh REVOLUTION, MUTINY |
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Posted - 2013.04.16 23:34:00 -
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Vaux Karn wrote:Okay...first off I know I am posting late on this and I know I don't post often on the forums, but I would like to voice my opinion on the tax issue.
1. Yes we need corp tax, and not just a flat percentage. We need flat taxes and scalar percentages as well. Flat taxes do have the ability to be abused, yes that is true, but so do all taxes. I get that people have reservations about this and to that I have one thing to say...welcome to New Eden. If corps abuse taxes, mercs leave said corp, simple. Scalar taxes are important as well, for example after x amount has been earned through tax, the tax rate lowers or raises to y percent, and so on. This creates tax brackets, which can be done in customized ways such as high earners paying a higher percentage or a flexible "dues" system in which the percentage is made up of incremental mile stones. Regardless, it creates a flexible tax system which can be utilized as a corporation sees fit. Again, if people do not like a corps tax, they can find one they do like and welcome to New Eden.
Thank you for reading my thoughts on the matter, thank you CCP for this outlet to provide feedback on the matter. Yay bacon! And kitten welcome to New Eden, mother kitten! So this is why you have one like |
slypie11
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Posted - 2013.04.17 01:11:00 -
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Vaux Karn wrote:No...the reason I have only one like is because I don't spend all my time trying to be prom queen on the forums and as such very rarely post, if you care to point out the specific issues you have with my suggestion, please do. I am more than willing to debate the issue. On the other hand, if you are basing your criticism on number of likes, I wish you luck in being voted prom queen, as it would obviously mean so much to you and your fragile self esteem. So again, please state your specific issues and debate me about those...I would love to thoroughly address the tax issue. I only had a problem with your first post. There will be no fixed tax rates, nor will there ever be fixed tax rates. If your talking about fixed taxes on income, these could easily put you into negative profits, especially for new players, and especially for players first trying out expensive fits and vehicles. If your talking about a fixed taxed tax every day/week/year, this could easily drain the wallets of the hundreds if not thousands of players who need extended time off from the game. Simply going on vacation for a week could end up in empty coffers for the poor merc. And the excuse of "This is New Eden" is getting really old, as in the end, New Eden is whatever we players want it to be, and I know we don't want it to be an unfriendly environment for casual players. The reason I didn't give an answer was because I found your post simply to stupid for an answer, since it was a stupid idea and devs stated multiple times that taxes would be based off percentage and not a fixed rate. And you are obviously the one playing prom queen, as you resort to underhanded tactics such as insulting others' self esteem before being civil. |
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