I like 2, while on that matter, can we distribute the merc pack goodies among characters? kinds sucks to have 2 dragonflies and toxins in my main and none on my alt.

I like 2, while on that matter, can we distribute the merc pack goodies among characters? kinds sucks to have 2 dragonflies and toxins in my main and none on my alt.

So I went ahead and did the math. In 1 month your total SP earned should be 761.6 without boosters, assuming you hit the cap each week and not factoring any SP you got after capping. With a booster that becomes 1142.4 SP. The difference between the two is 380.8.

So then the question becomes, is getting your Merc pack refunded worth losing 380.8 SP per pack?

I think you should have 2 options.

1. Give up 380.8 SP SP per pack and receive your Merc Packs with the 30-day booster included.
2. Or lose no SP and receive the Merc Pack without the booster. Maybe throw in a three day booster as a gift.

Either option should leave your assets untouched, that includes any unused boosters.
So you would still have twice the items, just not the extra SP.

Both of these options would appear on the screen on the day of "commercial release " and you would pick which one is more convenient for you.

Option 2 is really only there for those not interested in grinding again.

I bought all my merc packs during closed beta and choose neither option full refund of all items and aurum is the one I choose as an early supporter of CCP and dust I should reap the benefit's of doing so.

I bought 4 of them during the beta just an fyi

no one's going to get a second booster or anything else.

Early supporter of CCP? You had an EVE account 10 years ago did you?

Oh, and everyone who buys stuff is supporting Dust, not sure what makes you think your special. People who buy stuff right now are also supporting Dust and they don't get a refund. Double the items seems like a good enough "reward" for your "support".

Claiming you support CCP while trying to take advantage of a technicality? P'shhh

Then they would complain that the terms of sale where violated anyway since the booster was part of the original sale, I think... right? and must therefore also be refunded.

The only way refunding without the booster would work is if it was replaced by something of equal value. Is 308.8 SP not of equal value to the 30-day booster?

Then they would complain that the terms of sale where violated anyway since the booster was part of the original sale, I think... right? and must therefore also be refunded.

The only way refunding without the booster would work is if it was replaced by something of equal value. Is 308.8 SP not of equal value to the 30-day booster?

Then they would complain that the terms of sale where violated anyway since the booster was part of the original sale, I think... right? and must therefore also be refunded.

The only way refunding without the booster would work is if it was replaced by something of equal value. Is 308.8 SP not of equal value to the 30-day booster?

a reasonable person would draw the conclusion that the promise of items being credited to the player's account was a promise that the items purchased would not be lost during a reset.

I am not trying to take advantage of anything the slogan when the merc pack came out was buy them once use them twice

If they were going to give you sp in replace of the booster what would be the point just give the booster back and your math is off each 30-day booster is worth 408,000 sp so if they gave me sp instead of my booster's that would be 1,632,000 sp

I bought all my merc packs during closed beta and choose neither option full refund of all items and aurum is the one I choose as an early supporter of CCP and dust I should reap the benefit's of doing so.

I bought 4 of them during the beta just an fyi

Ughhh... no, they would take the SP from everyone who bought the merc pack back in CR first, and then either give you the SP back or give the booster.

And my math isn't off, the current cap is 190.400 unboosted. A booster raises it to 285.6.
1,142,400 is what you can get in a month, or 4 weeks with a booster. Not sure where the hell you got 1,632,000 from

1,632,000? Oh, so now you want an entire months, aside from you math being wrong here, worth of SP without having to work for it too? SMH

Oh and since everyone is being literal minded in regards to the wording of MP, Look CCP can take things literally too


So while a SP reset can't/wont happen, an SP cut is completely fair game. Since you guys want to take everything so literally when you feel it's convenient for you.

Pardon me for asking for so much, but can you post your formula?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=527997

Weekly cap is 190.4 (thousand, obviously)
Using a booster raises it by 50% or 1.5
That's 285.6
Multiply both by 4, since that's how many weeks are in 30-days or a month

The unboosted SP cap for a month is 761.6
With the booster it becomes 1142.4

So I then just subtracted the SP they would have gotten without the booster from the one that they'd get with booster, the difference is 380.8.

So with my system they would still keep the SP they worked for, just not any they received from the 30-day boosters. Also bare in mind that I'm not even touching any SP earned after the cap.

am I correct to assume that we are ONLY talking about the merc packs that were purchased during CLOSED BETA and had the "commercial release" clause in the description before the removal of said description?

Yes, that is what people are trying to take advantage of, since "refund at commercial release" obviously translates to 2 boosters for the price of 1

Yes, that is what people are trying to take advantage of, since "refund at commercial release" obviously translates to 2 boosters for the price of 1

"During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release." are the words that in fantasy land mean you get two but only pay for one.

Edit: Maken, the Merc Packs for sale at Gamestop still say it.

"During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release." are the words that in fantasy land mean you get two but only pay for one.

Edit: Maken, the Merc Packs for sale at Gamestop still say it.

"During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release." are the words that in fantasy land mean you get two but only pay for one.

Edit: Maken, the Merc Packs for sale at Gamestop still say it.

...Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514 account after each character reset AND for the commercial release

*emphasis added

I've already presented CCP with an excellent way of dealing with this:

Give those who want (hell if I want) the option to get back their AUR and BPCs in exchange they get reset as promised for the Commercial Release.

It's not vague language, it's extremely clearly written. The Merc pack includes all this stuff to use in the beta, and AGAIN at commercial release. No one is trying to be sneaky here or get anything extra out of this. We just want the very clearly written deal that we purchased.