Early supporter of CCP? You had an EVE account 10 years ago did you?

Oh, and everyone who buys stuff is supporting Dust, not sure what makes you think your special. People who buy stuff right now are also supporting Dust and they don't get a refund. Double the items seems like a good enough "reward" for your "support".

Claiming you support CCP while trying to take advantage of a technicality? P'shhh

Then they would complain that the terms of sale where violated anyway since the booster was part of the original sale, I think... right? and must therefore also be refunded.

The only way refunding without the booster would work is if it was replaced by something of equal value. Is 308.8 SP not of equal value to the 30-day booster?

Ughhh... no, they would take the SP from everyone who bought the merc pack back in CR first, and then either give you the SP back or give the booster.

And my math isn't off, the current cap is 190.400 unboosted. A booster raises it to 285.6.
1,142,400 is what you can get in a month, or 4 weeks with a booster. Not sure where the hell you got 1,632,000 from

1,632,000? Oh, so now you want an entire months, aside from you math being wrong here, worth of SP without having to work for it too? SMH

Oh and since everyone is being literal minded in regards to the wording of MP, Look CCP can take things literally too


So while a SP reset can't/wont happen, an SP cut is completely fair game. Since you guys want to take everything so literally when you feel it's convenient for you.

Stop right there, not sure what everything else is about.


Sorry but what CCP decides affects everyone, not not just the original buyers. Of course I didn't buy one, I couldn't have bought one, I was told about Dust after it went into OB. And whether I bought one or not is irrelevant anyway.

What's your total lifetime SP?

You'd rather loose 408,000 SP instead 380,800? Hey man, w/e ever floats your boat.

CCP reads these forums, and I'm pretty sure they'll read this thread. Peoples response to this thread should give them a general idea whether this idea is good or not.

The part where it's tricky is in the SP Boosters - both the Booster that comes with the pack, AND any Boosters purchased with Merc Pack Aurum.

Refunding these effectively means they've given you two boosters if they don't reset you as well. That means you're getting more than you should be entitiled to, unless it comes with a reset of SP. If you get the Boosters back after using them, CCP get complaints from people who didn't buy the pack because they've been given more than they paid for, and more than they're entitled to.

I think, for all the non-Booster items, and for any Aurum spent on something OTHER than a Booster, it's an easy "give it back, take what it was spent on" solution.

If you bought gear with Aurum, the gear is wiped, and the Aurum refunded. Any gear you were given in the Merc Pack is returned to you. Those Shotguns, Stimulants, etc. are all restored to the original amount you purchased. That's easy.

BOOSTERS are the problem. There are legitimate grounds for people to object to us being given back those Boosters without any loss of the SP we earned using them.

They have the option - which I think is fair - to (optionally, at the player's discretion) reset SP on those players who are adamant that they should have everything back. They can also say that you still have the Booster, since the function of the Booster is to increase your SP. You have elevated SP, therefore you still have the Booster.

It's possible they might wipe ONLY the SP you earned specifically due to the use of the Booster, if they have comprehensive enough records to do so. It would cause a mess when you consider the loss of already-spent SP though. Do you get your skills wiped so you can re-allocate everything? Do they un-train skills in the reverse of the order you trained them? Do they let you keep the skills you've trained, but have your "unallocated" SP count in the negative and need to build it into positive before you can buy new skills? It would be more of a mess doing it that way, and simply NOT refunding Boosters is a far simpler - yet still fair - method of refunding the contents of the Merc Pack.

No, but as I said, there's a reasonable argument allowing for the claim that you still have those things, and you shouldn't expect to be given back something you still have. Just like someone who still has their Dragonfly suit isn't expecting a second one. They're expecting to EITHER have it reset (removed from currently-assigned character, available to give back to that character or assign to one of the others on the account) or left alone.

You still have the boosted SP that is the final state in which the Booster ends up. Therefore, logically, it may be stated that you still have the Booster. It depends whether you define the Booster as the initial item before use, or by its effect. And if you definie it as the initial item, then you aren't "losing" the previous Booster by having your SP reset in order to get the replacement.

What exactly do you think the purpose of these forums are? Next time someone makes a thread about a weapon being UP/OP or w/e what are you going to say, take it up with CCP?

Jealousy? If I remember right, there was an event where CCP gave out 1 mill SP to CB testers. That's fine, it was gift from CCP. This is different, this isn't a gift nor was it "too good of an offer", because double the SP was never the offer in the first place.

Garret is right, If you didn't use the booster then you still have it, if you did you did use it then you still have it but in the form of Sp. Right now all I see is people trying to have their cake and eat it.

You bought 1 booster, not 2, not 1 you could use twice, just 1. If you still have the boosted SP then you have been given something of equal value, the sp itself, that fulfills the terms of the sale.

Edit: and no I don't speak for CCP, neither do any of you, CCP can decide if my opinion on the issue is of value to them, not you. Ultimately CCP will decide what to do with all of you, I'm just presenting them with options. Don't like those options? Take it up with CCP.

I doubt CCP wants the business of someone so eager to exploit their current situation.

So taking 380,000 SP out of your SP pool is somehow alienating you? How have you survived so long in this cruel cruel world?

If everyone got reset at CR then it would still be the same thing, but oh no because then "CCP lied about no more resets". Please you people are never happy, and you're just trying to take advantage of the situation by them stating there wouldn't be anymore resets in a greedy little attempt to double down on your purchase.

CCP should just give us all 5 mill SP at CR and be done with this situation.

Nope, it never promised that. That original agreement was under the assumption there would be a reset at CR, it was never intended as 2 for 1 deal. Pretending it was would be stupid and greedy.

I don't have to give you a reason to take my opinion seriously. You aren't CCP and therefore it makes no difference whether you consider my opinion valid or not. But what ever happens here effects everyone, not just those who originally bought the merc pack. I could go to Gamestop though, buy a merc pack and then I could say w/e the hell I want right?

Aren't satisfied with your product? Take it up Sony or CCP.

If the booster gets refunded then why should you keep it's effects? That wasn't part of the original agreement. You were promised that the booster would get returned to you at CR, not that you'd get to keep the SP as well.