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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:05:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: What's wrong with them receiving what they bought?
If they get a refund then they didn't actualy buy it. The Merc pack included a 30 day booster, not a 30 day booster that you can use twice. The Merc Pack included a 30 Day Booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Why shouldn't they get exactly what they paid for? Because they already used it and will keep the benefits from it. Go to the theaters and watch a movie, once it's finished try and get a refund so you can watch another one. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:06:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote: The refund was promised you, not the free SP. Quit trying to ignore the actual issue. CCP should give you your Aurum back, but they should also take any SP that you gained from the initial purchase.
I believe you need to look up what "free" means. If it were free, wouldn't you have that SP too? Or...perhaps they made a purchase that resulted in additional SP? 2 for 1 is also known as buy 1 get 1 free. They bought 1 booster, they want to get a 2nd free.
Here, I'll do it for you. The wonders of the internet allow me to do this for you.
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Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:07:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: What's wrong with them receiving what they bought?
If they get a refund then they didn't actualy buy it. The Merc pack included a 30 day booster, not a 30 day booster that you can use twice. The Merc Pack included a 30 Day Booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Why shouldn't they get exactly what they paid for? Because they already used it and will keep the benefits from it. Go to the theaters and watch a movie, once it's finished try and get a refund so you can watch another one.
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:11:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time because at no point in time did they pay for a second booster. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:12:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time.
The Merc Pack included a 30 day booster that would be refunded to you at a later date.
Are you perhaps confused about what a 30 day booster does? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:14:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time. The Merc Pack included a 30 day booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Are you perhaps confused about what a 30 day booster does? That was before they decided this would be the last reset, it wasn't intended as some special offer. They bought 1 booster, not 2, it's a simple concept really.
They should only benefit from 1 booster because that's what they paid for. The refund wasn't intended as a 2 for 1 deal. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:14:00 -
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If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:17:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:18:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time. The Merc Pack included a 30 day booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Are you perhaps confused about what a 30 day booster does? That was before they decided this would be the last reset, it wasn't intended as some special offer. They bought 1 booster, not 2, it's a simple concept really.
Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh? |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:19:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back.
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:22:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote: Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh?
Commercial release was meant to include a reset, it no longer will. it was always meant to be 1 booster, not 2.
But w/e, I'm done with you.
Eltra Ardell wrote:
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post.
If you eat a burger then get a refund after you ate it, then it was a free burger.
And yeah, I have no patience for you either. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1004
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time because at no point in time did they pay for a second booster.
You're right, it didn't include 2. I've gotten many more 30 day boosters so far than just 2. It included a 30 day booster for each beta reset, and one more at commercial release.
I still don't understand what you aren't getting here. It's true that CCP has decided not to reset any more during the beta, but that's not our fault and it wasn't our choice. That decision on CCP's part doesn't retroactively change the purchase agreement of the Merc Pack. It was very clearly stated that we would receive all of the Merc pack items at commercial release. If they want to remove the SP we gained from the booster, then they can, but it seems silly to punish their paying customers simply because THEY have made some strange and confusing decisions about how they are handling the beta. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:23:00 -
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Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
113
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back. What? It clearly says in the merc pack it comes with a 30 day booster, which is what makes the pack even worth it to begin with...all of which have been refunded once there was a reset. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
113
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:25:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh?
Commercial release was meant to include a reset, it no longer will. it was always meant to be 1 booster, not 2. But w/e, I'm done with you. Eltra Ardell wrote:
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post.
If you eat a burger then get a refund after you ate it, then it was a free burger. And yeah, I have no patience for you either. Regardless of their original intentions, they're still obligated to give us the entirety of what we paid for, which was clearly stated when I purchased my merc pack. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:26:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back. What? It clearly says in the merc pack it comes with a 30 day booster, which is what makes the pack even worth it to begin with...all of which have been refunded once there was a reset. And you will get the booster back, but you shouldn't keep the benefits from having used it the first time. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh?
Commercial release was meant to include a reset, it no longer will. it was always meant to be 1 booster, not 2. But w/e, I'm done with you. Eltra Ardell wrote:
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post.
If you eat aa buya burger then get a refund after you ate it, then it was a free burger. And yeah, I have no patience for you either.
You seem to be very determined to act in willful ignorance. At this point I have to suspect that you may be motivated by a lack of general foresight and funding....and perhaps greed and jealousy.
It does seem more productive to ignore your comments from this point onward. A shame; you might have had something of worth to contribute. Then again, perhaps not. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1004
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh?
Commercial release was meant to include a reset, it no longer will. it was always meant to be 1 booster, not 2. But w/e, I'm done with you. Eltra Ardell wrote:
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post.
If you eat a burger then get a refund after you ate it, then it was a free burger. And yeah, I have no patience for you either.
take it up with CCP. I don't understand why the decision they made has lead to you lobbying AGAINST the players and FOR CCP, when it seems to be CCP's decision that you have a disagreement with. It just doesn't make sense. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:27:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: Regardless of their original intentions, they're still obligated to give us the entirety of what we paid for, which was clearly stated when I purchased my merc pack.
Which you will get once they give you the booster back, any additional SP is not what you paid for. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:29:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote: take it up with CCP. I don't understand why the decision they made has lead to you lobbying AGAINST the players and FOR CCP, when it seems to be CCP's decision that you have a disagreement with. It just doesn't make sense.
How is this in anyway against the players? Quit trying to make yourself the victim, you did not buy SP, you baught a booster, which you should get back.
And we are taking it up with CCP, that's what this thread is for. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:30:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no?
I just want us all to come up with ideas on how to fix this so that CCP can get an idea on what might work best to address the situation. Is that too much to ask? |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
10
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? I just want us all to come up with ideas on how to fix this so that CCP can get an idea on what might work best to address the situation. Is that too much to ask?
Let me ask you this: What is there that needs fixing? |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1005
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:32:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? I just want us all to come up with ideas on how to fix this so that CCP can get an idea on what might work best to address the situation. Is that too much to ask? Let me ask you this: What is there that needs fixing?
yeah, this is what I don't get. All that needs to happen is CCP honor the terms of purchase. The end. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
114
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote: Regardless of their original intentions, they're still obligated to give us the entirety of what we paid for, which was clearly stated when I purchased my merc pack.
Which you will get once they give you the booster back, any additional SP is not what you paid for. Removing SP is pretty much taking away weekly caps from all kinds of players, if you think for one second CCP is going to remove any SP, you're out of your ******* mind, people will literally quit over this. They have an obligation to give us back EVERYTHING IN THE PACK, it's not the consumer's fault they changed plans on a SP reset on release, and we will not be punished for it |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:34:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote: I don't have any problem giving back boosted SP if I get my booster back.
And yet he's still trying to keep the bonus SP... |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
114
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:35:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back. What? It clearly says in the merc pack it comes with a 30 day booster, which is what makes the pack even worth it to begin with...all of which have been refunded once there was a reset. And you will get the booster back, but you shouldn't keep the benefits from having used it the first time. An unfortunate oversight by CCP, and it certainly doesn't give them some kind of legal loophole not to honor the original conditions the merc packs were purchased under. CCP isn't ******** enough to remove weeks of playtime for people across the board. You're then rewarding players who never used boosters, which is COMPLETELY backwards. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:35:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:we will not be punished for it No, but you should be rewarded for it right? |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
428
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? I just want us all to come up with ideas on how to fix this so that CCP can get an idea on what might work best to address the situation. Is that too much to ask? Yes, it is it would seem. Plus, there's not really a lot of wiggle room. CCP will either be bound by the conditions of the sale or they won't. So they either credit the items to the player's accounts or they don't. CCP made a colossal, enormous, hugely stupid, gigantic (the enormity of which can't be overstated) mistake in their wording. They have to decide where to go from here. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
638
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:36:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: An unfortunate oversight by CCP, and it certainly doesn't give them some kind of legal loophole not to honor the original conditions the merc packs were purchased under. CCP isn't ******** enough to remove weeks of playtime for people across the board. You're then rewarding players who never used boosters, which is COMPLETELY backwards.
Not if you get the booster back. |
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