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Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 01:48:00 -
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Whatever the result, I do find it stupid that others want my SP taken away because I used Merc Pack Aurum and not some other Aurum.
Aurum is Aurum, boosters are boosters, and what was offered is what was offered. The Merc Pack wasn't some special pack only available to some DUST-equivalent of BoB. Everyone had the opportunity to purchase it. Why are people whining that they're not getting Merc Pack benefits when they didn't purchase the Merc Pack? I'm not demanding the millions of SP others got over me from playing before I did.
Why do people feel so entitled to things they didn't do that others did? |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 01:59:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Whatever the result, I do find it stupid that others want my SP taken away because I used Merc Pack Aurum and not some other Aurum.
Aurum is Aurum, boosters are boosters, and what was offered is what was offered. The Merc Pack wasn't some special pack only available to some DUST-equivalent of BoB. Everyone had the opportunity to purchase it. Why are people whining that they're not getting Merc Pack benefits when they didn't purchase the Merc Pack? I'm not demanding the millions of SP others got over me from playing before I did.
Why do people feel so entitled to things they didn't do that others did? Do you even know what the hell is going on here? This is about the old merc pack, not the current one. Know one cares if you got the SP from a merc pack, they care if you paid for a booster, got to keep the effect of the booster, and then had the aurum from the booster back so you could bgy another one. And no, it wasn't available to everyone, only CB testers.
I understand that. I was in CB. I didn't purchase that Merc Pack.
What's wrong with them receiving what they bought? Why do you want to remove SP they got because they used "special" Aurum and not "normal" Aurum? Why do you feel like they should be penalized for making a purchase that CCP allowed them to make? Why do you feel they have an advantage over others?
Anyone demanding some sort of penalization for purchasing the Merc Pack needs to ask themselves that. They're not using mystical Blueprint Proto weapons with minimal fitting requirements. They're not getting suits with several more slots than usual. They're...getting boosters they paid for. Boosters you too can obtain. |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:02:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:
The refund was promised you, not the free SP. Quit trying to ignore the actual issue. CCP should give you your Aurum back, but they should also take any SP that you gained from the initial purchase.
I believe you need to look up what "free" means. If it were free, wouldn't you have that SP too?
Or...perhaps they made a purchase that resulted in additional SP? |
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:03:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
What's wrong with them receiving what they bought?
If they get a refund then they didn't actualy buy it. The Merc pack included a 30 day booster, not a 30 day booster that you can use twice.
The Merc Pack included a 30 Day Booster that would be refunded to you at a later date.
Why shouldn't they get exactly what they paid for? |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:06:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:
The refund was promised you, not the free SP. Quit trying to ignore the actual issue. CCP should give you your Aurum back, but they should also take any SP that you gained from the initial purchase.
I believe you need to look up what "free" means. If it were free, wouldn't you have that SP too? Or...perhaps they made a purchase that resulted in additional SP? 2 for 1 is also known as buy 1 get 1 free. They bought 1 booster, they want to get a 2nd free.
Here, I'll do it for you. The wonders of the internet allow me to do this for you.
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Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:07:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
What's wrong with them receiving what they bought?
If they get a refund then they didn't actualy buy it. The Merc pack included a 30 day booster, not a 30 day booster that you can use twice. The Merc Pack included a 30 Day Booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Why shouldn't they get exactly what they paid for? Because they already used it and will keep the benefits from it. Go to the theaters and watch a movie, once it's finished try and get a refund so you can watch another one.
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem! |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:12:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time.
The Merc Pack included a 30 day booster that would be refunded to you at a later date.
Are you perhaps confused about what a 30 day booster does? |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:18:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Gasp!
You mean...they would be getting precisely what they paid for!?
You're right! This is a problem!
The merc pack did not include a 2 30 day boosters, just 1. If people want the booster back, then they should give back the SP they gained from using it the first time. The Merc Pack included a 30 day booster that would be refunded to you at a later date. Are you perhaps confused about what a 30 day booster does? That was before they decided this would be the last reset, it wasn't intended as some special offer. They bought 1 booster, not 2, it's a simple concept really.
Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh? |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:19:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing. Yes you are entitled to your refund, but no one promised you a free 30 day booster so you should give the SP back.
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post. |
Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:
Yes, and you don't seem to be getting it. Here, let me explain it to you.
A 30 Day Booster included in the Merc Pack is an active booster that multiplies your active SP gain by 1.5x. That means if you make 1000 SP, you'd actually receive 1500 SP.
Now, once you use it up, it's gone. HOWEVER! This 30 Day Booster is to be refunded at a later date. When that happens, you get another 30 Day Booster! And guess what? This one does the same thing as the last one, which I hope you would expect! Pretty neat, huh?
Commercial release was meant to include a reset, it no longer will. it was always meant to be 1 booster, not 2. But w/e, I'm done with you. Eltra Ardell wrote:
Again, you seem to be ignoring what "free" means. I'm afraid I'm losing my patience and will have to ask you to refer to my previous post.
If you eat aa buya burger then get a refund after you ate it, then it was a free burger. And yeah, I have no patience for you either.
You seem to be very determined to act in willful ignorance. At this point I have to suspect that you may be motivated by a lack of general foresight and funding....and perhaps greed and jealousy.
It does seem more productive to ignore your comments from this point onward. A shame; you might have had something of worth to contribute. Then again, perhaps not. |
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Eltra Ardell
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free.
The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? |
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, need I remind everyone here that the purpose of this thread is to collaborate in sharing ideas to address the problem? This is not the place to argue what's considered buy-one-get-one-free. The problem appears to be several have-nots demanding those that have to not-have as well. The solution is to ignore these have-nots, no? I just want us all to come up with ideas on how to fix this so that CCP can get an idea on what might work best to address the situation. Is that too much to ask?
Let me ask you this: What is there that needs fixing? |
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:39:00 -
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Calm thyself, King Kobrah. We're better off ignoring him, like I said. If we take him at face value, it's obvious he doesn't understand concepts as complex as "free" or "time."
The discussion shouldn't be finding some "solution" to the "problem" of people getting what they paid for.
The discussion should be determining whether there is a problem here at all. The fact that discussion is moving forward with the assumption that there is an issue is an issue in and of itself. |
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