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Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 589	Posted - 2013.03.25 03:30:00 - [91] - Quote CCP can say w/e they want, but there will be no character resets, therefore to me and a lot of other people this game is considered "live" or "commercially released". If CCP does Refund Aurum, then it should exclude any that was spent on boosters. Edit: It may be an incomplete product, but it's an incomplete product that they are selling.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 589	Posted - 2013.03.25 03:54:00 - [92] - Quote Something just occurred to me... Say Dust 514 never goes into commercial release, CCP decides to stay in beta indefinitely. So with no character resets, and no commercial release, does that mean that CCP doesn't ever have to refund Aurum? GG CCP, seriously though, somebody call a lawyer lol
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 277	Posted - 2013.03.25 03:57:00 - [93] - Quote The way I see it would be like me saying. I will give you a million dollars on the best day of my life. Then i get married, have kids, get promotions at work, win awards,etc. The catch here is I determine the best day of my life not you. You could say the day your kid was born was the best day of your life but if I don't say it is, then it is not. They determine when the "commercial release" is not us. We can say we determine it but we don't/ And according to the laws in america if you are proven innocent then you are innocent. Look at Cassie Anthony, everyone believe she is guilty, but a jury of her peers said the state did not give sufficiant enough evidence to show she killed her daughter. So we must respect that. If we do not then the whole judicial system comes into question and we are back at mob mentality and we would just go around saying people are guilty without a trial, because you believe they are. Then what if you didn't do something wrong but the public thinks you did and you are sent to jail or the chair for something you didn't do. And it would go on and on and on. Also we are arguing something that may not even happen. Come june they could say it's full release time and refund all of our aur. and reset the skills. We don't know. They may they may not. we will just have to see.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 990	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:13:00 - [94] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Rasatsu wrote: This thread... Fine, I support the position of the guys who want refunded the AUR and merc pack items on commercial release. They should also get all their salvage and SP reset. The rest of us will keep our characters as-is. So your position is basically that people who want CCP to honour a purchase agreement that they made with those players, should be penalised for that? No, it's not a penalty, it's exactly what you asked for. The refund was intended for the reset on commercial release and CCP decided to change the timing of the reset. Why would you think you'd get to skip the reset and just have the refund? Be careful what you ask for, you might actually get it. this would be a disgusting way to approach this and I would never touch another CCP product again if they went this route. CCP needs to honor the agreement they made with their paying customers without intentionally screwing us out of spite.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 990	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:16:00 - [95] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: 3. The AUR reset in Chromosome build could easily be the result of either a: reset due to character reset or b: reset due to commercial release. That CCP (sometimes) denies that the game is commercially released suggests the former, leaving a future merc pack redistribution required on commercial release, as per the terms of this agreement. Nope, Open Beta is a commercial release, or is the game not available to the General public? Because that's what a commercial release is, not when CCP decides it is. CCP have stated, in writing, that we are not yet in commercial release. Look back through the dev posts to around the time the other thread about this (linked a page or two back) and see for yourself if you want. In fact, they were actually quite rude and dismissive about the idea that anyone would even consider the beta "commercial release".
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 680	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:19:00 - [96] - Quote Frank Devine wrote: Let me clarify, I don't mean right now, I mean when it comes out of beta, just like I want to see the skills reset. My concern is that they are just going to keep rolling the way they are now kinda like how PlayStation home is still in beta and its been like that for several years. I think you are finally getting to understand DUST 514. Seems about likely this is what will happen. You may get something back for the merc pack if the beta ever does end. But will the beta ever end?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 591	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:21:00 - [97] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: CCP have stated, in writing, that we are not yet in commercial release. Look back through the dev posts to around the time the other thread about this (linked a page or two back) and see for yourself if you want. In fact, they were actually quite rude and dismissive about the idea that anyone would even consider the beta "commercial release". Like I said, I could deny kicking a puppy, but if you see me do it... You get to keep your SP, and I'm assuming all your gear, and anyone with a PS3 and an internet connection can download this game. Someone explain to me how this game isn't released, because CCP said so doesn't count.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1759	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:21:00 - [98] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rasatsu wrote: This thread... Fine, I support the position of the guys who want refunded the AUR and merc pack items on commercial release. They should also get all their salvage and SP reset. The rest of us will keep our characters as-is. 1. Salvage has nothing to do with AUR. 2. CCP already confirmed there will be no more SP resets. But again, SP reimbursements are still an idea being considered. Salvage has everything to do with AUR in that AUR has everything to do with a character reset. How so? Have you received any AUR items via the salvage mechanic? If so, which ones?
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 680	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:26:00 - [99] - Quote Gunner Nightingale wrote: Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Originally, the Mercenary Pack stated: IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted. Merc pack does not say that anymore. You got your AUR reset in Chromosome build. I wont post the actual wording again just look a few posts up. And here is the link the terms are still the same at Gamestop so what they're are selling an item under two DIFFERENT set of terms and conditions at the same time. That only makes it worse. http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/dlc/dust-514-gamestop-mercenary-pack/106107 Gamestop merc pack is Gamestop Mercenary Pack. Different item. But if you buy that and the game ever goes to commercial release you should get the items back, or items of similar value. Just like it says.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 62	Posted - 2013.03.25 04:32:00 - [100] - Quote My Corp has helped me seen this is a BETA. Until the main person in charge comes out and says we are officially released! It will be BETA. There is no time limit on BETA. The game can forever call itself BETA if it is free and not charging they have NO obligation to commercial release. They can keep grabbing money from people willing to buy AUR, they have no obligation to give nothing back until they are ready to do so IF they are ever ready to do so. THE END.

Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 109	Posted - 2013.03.25 05:03:00 - [101] - Quote Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one. They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. Only time will tell. But as it stands on commercial release (whenever that is) they have to refund all merc packs bought before jan 22nd and currently any merc packs bought from GameStop. Note** the last reset was January 10th 2013, 12 days before the open beta, on January 22nd 2013. Meaning if they consider open beta commercial release then they did not fulfill the refund on commercial release promise stated in the merc pack terms. Something to think about. Note** also know that laws in the USA mandate that when you purchase an item with terms you agree to that set of terms, if the terms change at a later date you are not obligated to them, you are obligated to the terms at time of purchase.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 391	Posted - 2013.03.25 05:13:00 - [102] - Quote Aighun wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Originally, the Mercenary Pack stated: IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted. Merc pack does not say that anymore. You got your AUR reset in Chromosome build. I wont post the actual wording again just look a few posts up. And here is the link the terms are still the same at Gamestop so what they're are selling an item under two DIFFERENT set of terms and conditions at the same time. That only makes it worse. http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/dlc/dust-514-gamestop-mercenary-pack/106107 Gamestop merc pack is Gamestop Mercenary Pack. Different item. But if you buy that and the game ever goes to commercial release you should get the items back, or items of similar value. Just like it says. So you agree they are operating under TWO sets of T&A for the same product(oh and giving me two toxins instead of one is not enough to warrant a separate product and putting the "gamestop" preceding it is simply indicating the vendor) so again this only makes the situation worse. Still all of these merc packs are subject to EULA and whatever language is in there can be argued to supercede the "contract" that is being agreed upon at point of purchase.
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 89	Posted - 2013.03.25 06:04:00 - [103] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one. They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. You said it. I'll bet it's solely in the hands of lawyers and spin doctors. You will be screwed over or they would have fixed it by now.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 553	Posted - 2013.03.25 06:33:00 - [104] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one. They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. Only time will tell. But as it stands on commercial release (whenever that is) they have to refund all merc packs bought before jan 22nd and currently any merc packs bought from GameStop. No, they don't need to refund my merc pack, in fact I insist they don't. Since I don't want to have all my SP reset I'll just let them keep what I've spent, while the rest of you whiners can go insist having your characters' SP reset for the refund.
usrevenge2 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 74	Posted - 2013.03.25 06:36:00 - [105] - Quote huh? though it's "open beta" the game is basically out now, just with many more updates and patches to come.
Mithridates VI The Southern Legion 481	Posted - 2013.03.25 06:38:00 - [106] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one. They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. Only time will tell. But as it stands on commercial release (whenever that is) they have to refund all merc packs bought before jan 22nd and currently any merc packs bought from GameStop. No, they don't need to refund my merc pack, in fact I insist they don't. Since I don't want to have all my SP reset I'll just let them keep what I've spent, while the rest of you whiners can go insist having your characters' SP reset for the refund. Working on your earlier assumption that an AUR refund requires a character reset, I suppose that makes sense.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 593	Posted - 2013.03.25 06:50:00 - [107] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Rasatsu wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one. They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. Only time will tell. But as it stands on commercial release (whenever that is) they have to refund all merc packs bought before jan 22nd and currently any merc packs bought from GameStop. No, they don't need to refund my merc pack, in fact I insist they don't. Since I don't want to have all my SP reset I'll just let them keep what I've spent, while the rest of you whiners can go insist having your characters' SP reset for the refund. Working on your earlier (unsubstantiated) assumption that an AUR refund requires a character reset, I suppose that makes sense. It does if that refund includes any Aurum spent on boosters.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek IT Infotech 267	Posted - 2013.03.25 07:00:00 - [108] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Yup, I still fully expect CCP to honor the conditions they set when they sold me the merc pack. If they don't, I expect a full refund. You can blow it out any available orifice, Kitten. Try and get a refund from Activision or EA. Even when they completely puke out a turd of a product or completely screw the launch, release or server support a refund for anything from a game company is not gonna happen. You spent a reasonably small amount of money and you got more than a reasonable amount of game play out of it. It is certainly more than the 8 to 10 hours the has become the standard for video games. Your sense of entitlement is even worse when compared to your lack of common sense.
Mithridates VI The Southern Legion 481	Posted - 2013.03.25 07:04:00 - [109] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Yup, I still fully expect CCP to honor the conditions they set when they sold me the merc pack. If they don't, I expect a full refund. You can blow it out any available orifice, Kitten. Try and get a refund from Activision or EA. Even when they completely puke out a turd of a product or completely screw the launch, release or server support a refund for anything from a game company is not gonna happen. You spent a reasonably small amount of money and you got more than a reasonable amount of game play out of it. It is certainly more than the 8 to 10 hours the has become the standard for video games. Your sense of entitlement is even worse when compared to your lack of common sense. You are responding as if he said "I'm not satisfied with the product and I want a refund." Bringing value for money into the conversation is irrelevant. Expecting someone you entered into a legal agreement with to honour their end of the deal isn't an unreasonable sense of entitlement.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 62	Posted - 2013.03.25 07:32:00 - [110] - Quote Apparently you all didn't read my post on page5...I said THE END at the end of it meaning this discussion is over! It is in BETA! THE END!!! Devs please lock this up! THE END!!!

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 553	Posted - 2013.03.25 07:53:00 - [111] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Apparently you all didn't read my post on page5...I said THE END at the end of it meaning this discussion is over! It is in BETA! THE END!!! Devs please lock this up! THE END!!! Too late, you can't stop a bad thread from turning to a worst thread.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 990	Posted - 2013.03.25 08:04:00 - [112] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Yup, I still fully expect CCP to honor the conditions they set when they sold me the merc pack. If they don't, I expect a full refund. You can blow it out any available orifice, Kitten. Try and get a refund from Activision or EA. Even when they completely puke out a turd of a product or completely screw the launch, release or server support a refund for anything from a game company is not gonna happen. You spent a reasonably small amount of money and you got more than a reasonable amount of game play out of it. It is certainly more than the 8 to 10 hours the has become the standard for video games. Your sense of entitlement is even worse when compared to your lack of common sense. Let me put this in terms you might better understand: You go to Walmart, pick out two 24 packs of Mountain Dew and two family size bags of Cheetos. You get up to the register and the lady behind the counter runs it all over the scanner and charges you $24 for the whole kit and kaboodle. Then she takes one 24 pack and one bag of Cheetos and sets it behind the counter, and hands you one 24 pack and one bag of chips and says "have a nice day". I'm you. CCP is the cashier. You're the next guy in line that says "Come on pal, why are you complaining? You got some mountain dew and some Cheetos, ain't that good enough? Why does it matter if you only get half of what you paid for, you're holding up the line here."
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1170	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:25:00 - [113] - Quote CCP can dodge your request by never going to full release. They just simply state that the open beta never ends and you are screwed. After all there is no timestamp on a "official release". Its that simple to be honest. Funny how nobody even remotely thought about it. And because they can state that this game is in open beta they can add/tweak the gameplay however they want. This goes aswell for additional content like maps or new weapons and so on. They just throw it in and say "hey guys we have something new to test for you". I think this is the same way how eve works out.
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 89	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:45:00 - [114] - Quote Here's about where it will be. CCP Legal and PR will be working on two things: Ensuring screwing you over doesn't trip any commercial laws in BIG markets that mean they could find themselves answering to people just filing a complaint online to a local Government body. I imagine if this happened the burden of paperwork for CCP would be a lesson in itself. This would mainly be legislation in the US and EU. If they can't in a way that is unambiguous (e.g. a long freaking bow) this will shape the next item. Working on some spin for gaming news websites, people raising petitions and the inevitable Dev Blog that explains why reneging on T&Cs is only fair and just for all. This may even involve throwing a bone or two. If they can get the exposure down to a level where people would only be able to ping them on a civil level - i.e. who would you? It will be a risk management position they will accept. Face it, this will be another bottom line issue of CCP saying something in public and doing something very different in private. It's just been harder for them to do it this time.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 553	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:47:00 - [115] - Quote Go to the gaming press, tell them about how CCP is screwing you guys by not doing another reset.
Mithridates VI The Southern Legion 483	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:51:00 - [116] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: CCP can dodge your request by never going to full release. They just simply state that the open beta never ends and you are screwed. After all there is no timestamp on a "official release". Its that simple to be honest. Funny how nobody even remotely thought about it.. They did think about it and they mentioned so earlier in the thread. They certainly can do that but I don't think they really want to alienate all of their players like that.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES 63	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:53:00 - [117] - Quote In before lock.... Again.... rolls eyes
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 364	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:54:00 - [118] - Quote Reads some posts..... shakes head..... backs out slowly....
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 178	Posted - 2013.03.25 09:58:00 - [119] - Quote My take on the whole thing is that the wording was a contingence for character reset on release as every other reset my Aurum and items got refunded. If there Is no further character reset's than I wouldn't need a refund if there was I would fully expect a refund on my aurum and item's
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 19	Posted - 2013.03.25 10:46:00 - [120] - Quote "Hello guys, Just a quick clarification: there will be no more resets of any kind since we fully moved to Tranquility. The description that you see on AUR items in the marketplace right now will be removed during todayGÇÖs Open Beta downtime to reflect this. Thank you." i see a lot of you fail to read. so let me break this down for you. he is saying that merc packs sold once the game has its last reset, people buying merc packs will not be refunded. if they bought them before this date then the old terms still apply. if you know ccp then you will understand something has most likly gone wrong and there working on a fix. as for the exculsive days you have already had them same as me and so did anyone in the closed beta. you had several days from the last reset till the server opened to anyonne to just download..



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