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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:02:00 -
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I don't expect them to give a refund, nor give us 3 days exclusive access to the servers once the game moves out of beta.
I think they will use the "substitute items of equal value" clause they have, but then how do you value 3 days? And how do you value in game items?
I mean they can probably just give out BPOs equal to 40,000 aur, but then again when I bought a merc pack, BPOs were a few hundred each, now they are a few thousand. How can you give something of equal value back when you control the prices? They could easily make a 40,000 aur BPO item and give us that.
If anyone ever needs it here is a pic of the terms:
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc518/Malcolm_Nolasco/8920F49B-3EC9-4313-A7C4-97A16380C9BD-926-000000B323B4CA47.jpg
I also am friends with sonys head of digital platforms, he has a copy as well and until the "commercial release" happens he can only monitor the situation. (Can't yell at someone for doing something that hasn't happened yet)
All in all. Calm your **** and wait it out. |
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:12:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Why do CCP owe anyone three days exclusive access?
Back when the merc pack first came out "3 days early access to the commercial release" was listed on it. Meaning when the game went full release that merc pack purchasers would get 3 days exclusive access to the game.
Ccp made the promises and now they're backing our of it.
Hell when it was first announced that we wouldn't get anything I made a comment about it and got flamed because people didn't want to not have access to the game for 3 days while us merc packers did. |
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:31:00 -
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I have to agree with NOC on this. When jan 10th rolled around some devs said "open beta" while others said "commercial release"
Which is why they removed the "get stuff back on commercial release" stuff, they said it no longer applied. |
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:41:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52274
^ there is the thread that ccp said they were removing merc pack refunds. It's a good read. Page 3 is the post from ccp. |
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Posted - 2013.03.25 05:03:00 -
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Yeah ccp messed up big time on this one.
They haven't said anything about it because they probably don't know what to say. Only time will tell. But as it stands on commercial release (whenever that is) they have to refund all merc packs bought before jan 22nd and currently any merc packs bought from GameStop.
Note**** the last reset was January 10th 2013, 12 days before the open beta, on January 22nd 2013. Meaning if they consider open beta commercial release then they did not fulfill the refund on commercial release promise stated in the merc pack terms. Something to think about.
Note**** also know that laws in the USA mandate that when you purchase an item with terms you agree to that set of terms, if the terms change at a later date you are not obligated to them, you are obligated to the terms at time of purchase. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:47:00 -
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You know the only reason we don't get anymore resets is because the sp snobs don't know what a ******* beta is and were QQing that they kept having their SP reset to test the game, you know the point of a beta. So if you think about it, it's an argument between 2 sides that both believe they are entitled, except one side has a legally binding contract on their side.
And people please stfu with the "reset their sp if they want a aur refund" your logic is flawed but you're too far into self defense mode for your sp to realize it. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:59:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:Isnt this subject to change by CCP ?
Yes however in the terms ccp has to give something equal to what was in the merc pack. Ergo they have to give players something big, equivalent to what's in the pack. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:21:00 -
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When it comes down to it the only people to blame is CCP. They not only made a promise, they made it a legally binding contract.
The people who want their aur are rightfully allowed to want it, and ccp is legally obligated to give it to them when the time comes.
Just the same as people who don't want their aur are entitled to not want it.
Honestly when it comes down to it, if I promised, and signed a contract to give someone something, I would give it to them. Simply because I have pride in my word. Maybe ccp should too. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:All items purchased are under Sony's TOS, Sony reserves the right to change their TOS at their discretion at any time, you agree to those terms every time you use their first party services, last I checked that includes PSN. So... guess what? The terms on the Merc pack changed, tough luck.
You could always try getting a lawyer though, good luck.
Yes, but when purchasing an item you agree to those terms at point of purchase. A term change only effects future purchases.
An if it comes down to lawyers then I just have to say, it's pathetic that people would go so far to get out of something they agreed to. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:39:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:All items purchased are under Sony's TOS, Sony reserves the right to change their TOS at their discretion at any time, you agree to those terms every time you use their first party services, last I checked that includes PSN. So... guess what? The terms on the Merc pack changed, tough luck.
You could always try getting a lawyer though, good luck. Yes, but when purchasing an item you agree to those terms at point of purchase. A term change only effects future purchases. Yeah, and one of the terms they agreed to was the fact that the terms are subject to change.
You don't understand laws well do you? |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:52:00 -
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Then why are you trying to argue something that you don't have a good knowledge of?
Oh wait I forgot this is the Internet XD |
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