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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:30:00 -
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The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me.
My next point CCP, The next update is in april and i feel it's to late for me because of the **** ups and the pleasing ever reporter , that your fan base for the game is stasis. CCP you have all these great games out that for ideas and you've used nothing from them and that's a free resource. I feel that your game that you show off in adverts are the future of the game but the future for your game is't this year maybe in 10 years.
HMG needs a buff.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
390
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:32:00 -
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4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do. |
ZiwZih
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
62
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:35:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do.
Even that black colour of PRO isn't intimidating these days. Poor fatties; at least you got promise that CCP 'will look' upon your class, so you might hope. We Scouts shall keep strafing in mud until indefinite. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
669
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:38:00 -
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ZiwZih wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do. Even that black colour of PRO isn't intimidating these days. Poor fatties; at least you got promise that CCP 'will look' upon your class, so you might hope. We Scouts shall keep strafing in mud until indefinite.
I don't care about scouts because it's rock paper scissors. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1878
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:40:00 -
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4447 wrote:The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me. So you can't afford to run Proto Heavy all the time? Simple solution: Don't use it all the time.
Bring a cheap(er) Heavy suit at the beginning of a match. If it looks like you're going to do well, and having that little bit extra would be an advantage, bring your best gear the next time you spawn in. If you're looking like it's still going to make you a profit and will benefit the team, keep running with it. If you look like you're going to start losing money, stop running the expensive fitting and drop back to a cheaper one. If you've been barely covering costs (or failing to do so), run several matches with only cheap/free gear to effectively grind for ISK and get yourself back on track. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
714
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:44:00 -
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I find it funny people are only now starting to realize this. I've been saying this for months before everyone got better dropsuits. If you played the last build, you would know what was coming down.
Everyone QQ'd so hard about heavies in the start of this build...now? Not a thread in a week or more about heavies being OP. People kept judging heavies based on public games, when they ran into noobs using militia suits. Now people using Advanced or Proto suits, and heavies have officially become the joke of New Eden.
No other suit has a useless Proto suit like the heavies do. The HMG's do little dmg to Proto Assault players who shield tank, or heavies don't live long enough to do dmg...thanks to broken dmg mods that CCP seem to not care to fix. Hey, broken AUR dmg mods = more money.
Now Heavies are becoming more and more useless in battles. Now you'll start seeing more proto logis, and proto assault suits because they are FAR better than the other Proto suits. And people crying for an HMG nerf? Well I'm saying this right now, if they nerf anything more in the Heavy class, then they should just remove it from the game period.
Think I'm wrong? Play as a heavy in a corp match against a good team. Then come back here and tell me your cool story about going 30-0 ... not gonna happen.
The advanced and proto suits need a buff, and price drop for it to even make sense using tbh. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
669
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:45:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:4447 wrote:The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me. So you can't afford to run Proto Heavy all the time? Simple solution: Don't use it all the time. Bring a cheap(er) Heavy suit at the beginning of a match. If it looks like you're going to do well, and having that little bit extra would be an advantage, bring your best gear the next time you spawn in. If you're looking like it's still going to make you a profit and will benefit the team, keep running with it. If you look like you're going to start losing money, stop running the expensive fitting and drop back to a cheaper one. If you've been barely covering costs (or failing to do so), run several matches with only cheap/free gear to effectively grind for ISK and get yourself back on track.
It's not the point because if i spec into assault i could run proto gear all the time. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
391
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:46:00 -
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4447 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do. But you can't spec into to proto unless you want to go bankrupt. I have 70 vk.0 suits waiting for me. Granted, it's not as good as the vk.1, but once they fix the Proto suits it'll be worth using.
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GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
81
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:47:00 -
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The gun is fine, when you take a Gastuns for a spin, all is right with the world of HMG. Am eager to take the Freedom Assault out for a spin later today.
The proto suit doesn't look worth it at all from where I am sitting. Better to invest heavily into heavy weapon upgrade and the last two levels of HMG proficiency before I even think about going proto.
A Type heavy with a boundless, dual extenders and dual basic plates is a real tank, and although another extender would increase the fun, it doesn't really justify the extra cost, especially when I still have only one level into heavy weapon upgrade and two more levels of circuitry to do.
Proto for shield heavies might be a bit better, because i would assume the higher CPU costs require more output, but for an armor heavy, stopping at advanced isn't hurting your game, even without AUR.
The Armor proto needs another low slot, and the shield proto needs a price drop, and maybe trade a low slot for another high. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1878
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:55:00 -
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4447 wrote:It's not the point because if i spec into assault i could run proto gear all the time. Then that should be part of the point. Because not everybody can run Proto Assault all the time without losing ISK or spending AUR.
But then, some people have shown up here just to complain about how "I have to spend $5 an hour to play" because they didn't realise that you could buy gear with ISK if you wanted to. So there doesn't seem to be a minimum limit to human intelligence.
And I hope the Heavy suits get their upper tiers fixed. A decent buff and maybe a slight price drop would be a good start, imo. |
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YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
137
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:58:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do.
+1 |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:08:00 -
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lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, you heavy's just always want an eeasy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec
22
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:08:00 -
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This issue is way more visible even in Pub games now since they start selling AUR proto suits I guess. No need to specs to lvl 5 anymore, lvl3 is fine. Which makes more Proto assault, logi in game.
Last couples days, I ended up playing a militia shotgun with the merc pack scout suit, getting more kills than my heavy. Too bad I spent 3M SP in that heavy, right now, I would roll a new merc, probably a logi, so much possibility and benefits.
Just piling SP right now, waiting for better heavy possibilities...which might be a pretty long wait. |
Ademis Kalel
WarRavens
1
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:11:00 -
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There has been no change to the heavy other than it needs to be tweaked so it doesnt outway all other classes. So stop your whining. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
391
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:13:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily taking out someone within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy. Yeah right....
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=438827#post438827 |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
714
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:16:00 -
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Ademis Kalel wrote:There has been no change to the heavy other than it needs to be tweaked so it doesnt outway all other classes. So stop your whining.
"Outway all other classes"???
Not sure if serious. You've obviously NEVER played as a heavy otherwise you'll know just how stupid you made yourself look. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
669
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:21:00 -
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Ademis Kalel wrote:There has been no change to the heavy other than it needs to be tweaked so it doesnt outway all other classes. So stop your whining.
Leave the forum because you have no good input. |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:22:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily taking out someone within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy. Yeah right.... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=438827#post438827
No, because your heavy suit already has higher Shields and Armor compared to any protosuit with stacked complex shield extenders. Your HMG's are already powerful enough with the ROF and damage output. All these things add up into the Heavy Protosuit being completely balanced. Those few extra slots are all you need, 100% more CPU is all you should get and Once damage mods are fixed you'll notice little difference. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:22:00 -
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the heavy doesmt seem underpowerd to me:/ wait till CCP fix's damage mods maybe you see some survivability improvments without CCP having to directly alter the heavy. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
669
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:23:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too.
It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. |
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Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:28:00 -
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4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo.
WHAT!? HTFU!!!
You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1880
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. So what you're saying is that it's fine for Proto Heavies to be underpowered because it somehow balances out the fact that low-tier Heavies are OP (pro-tip: they aren't, you just suck at countering heavies)? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
669
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. WHAT!? HTFU!!! You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter!
Do you even know how a HMG works? So my HMG should go toe to toe and use half my clip for one guy?
He talks but i don't see no one at my door. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
715
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. WHAT!? HTFU!!! You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter!
Funny you say HTFU, when you're here crying about heavies... QQ
And why are you sounding so mad? Did you get molested by an HMG recently? |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. So what you're saying is that it's fine for Proto Heavies to be underpowered because it somehow balances out the fact that low-tier Heavies are OP (pro-tip: they aren't, you just suck at countering heavies)?
The hell are you even talking about right now!? Can you even read you imbred? When did I say any of what you're implying moron? |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:34:00 -
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4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. WHAT!? HTFU!!! You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter! Do you even know how a HMG works? So my HMG should go toe to toe and use half my clip for one guy? He talks but i don't see no one at my door.
Great rebuttal kid, couldn't even refute even one of my statements. You've already been exposed as a crybaby who's mad that everyone runs from him while continues to spray and runs out of ammo, boooo hoooo, BUFF ME. I'm done with you nerd. |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
And why are you sounding so mad? Did you get molested by an HMG recently?
I'm always angry, rough childhood, so I'm a little fked up, I know. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec
23
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:42:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
And why are you sounding so mad? Did you get molested by an HMG recently?
I'm always angry, rough childhood, so I'm a little fked up, I know.
Just down break your keyboard while typing. Caps lock was invented for you, use it. |
Trevor K
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:43:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:The gun is fine, when you take a Gastuns for a spin, all is right with the world of HMG. Am eager to take the Freedom Assault out for a spin later today.
The proto suit doesn't look worth it at all from where I am sitting. Better to invest heavily into heavy weapon upgrade and the last two levels of HMG proficiency before I even think about going proto.
A Type heavy with a boundless, dual extenders and dual basic plates is a real tank, and although another extender would increase the fun, it doesn't really justify the extra cost, especially when I still have only one level into heavy weapon upgrade and two more levels of circuitry to do.
Proto for shield heavies might be a bit better, because i would assume the higher CPU costs require more output, but for an armor heavy, stopping at advanced isn't hurting your game, even without AUR.
The Armor proto needs another low slot, and the shield proto needs a price drop, and maybe trade a low slot for another high.
At least give us an equipment slot for nanohives at proto, jeesh! |
ZiwZih
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:43:00 -
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4447 wrote:ZiwZih wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do. Even that black colour of PRO isn't intimidating these days. Poor fatties; at least you got promise that CCP 'will look' upon your class, so you might hope. We Scouts shall keep strafing in mud until indefinite. I don't care about scouts because it's rock paper scissors.
I do care about Heavies. And Scouts. And because of rock-paper-scissors. And you have problems reading posts.
CCP promised to look and tweak Heavies, and we all hope they buff upper tiers. Your statement that HMG needs buff is wrong, as it has been pointed to you by other Heavies and thinking non-Heavies alike.
If the mention of a Scout suit in your thread made you uncomfortable, I apologize. |
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