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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:30:00 -
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The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me.
My next point CCP, The next update is in april and i feel it's to late for me because of the **** ups and the pleasing ever reporter , that your fan base for the game is stasis. CCP you have all these great games out that for ideas and you've used nothing from them and that's a free resource. I feel that your game that you show off in adverts are the future of the game but the future for your game is't this year maybe in 10 years.
HMG needs a buff.
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:38:00 -
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ZiwZih wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:4447 wrote:HMG needs a buff. Lol no, but the Advanced and Proto suits do. Even that black colour of PRO isn't intimidating these days. Poor fatties; at least you got promise that CCP 'will look' upon your class, so you might hope. We Scouts shall keep strafing in mud until indefinite.
I don't care about scouts because it's rock paper scissors. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:45:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:4447 wrote:The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me. So you can't afford to run Proto Heavy all the time? Simple solution: Don't use it all the time. Bring a cheap(er) Heavy suit at the beginning of a match. If it looks like you're going to do well, and having that little bit extra would be an advantage, bring your best gear the next time you spawn in. If you're looking like it's still going to make you a profit and will benefit the team, keep running with it. If you look like you're going to start losing money, stop running the expensive fitting and drop back to a cheaper one. If you've been barely covering costs (or failing to do so), run several matches with only cheap/free gear to effectively grind for ISK and get yourself back on track.
It's not the point because if i spec into assault i could run proto gear all the time. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:21:00 -
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Ademis Kalel wrote:There has been no change to the heavy other than it needs to be tweaked so it doesnt outway all other classes. So stop your whining.
Leave the forum because you have no good input. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:23:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too.
It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. WHAT!? HTFU!!! You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter!
Do you even know how a HMG works? So my HMG should go toe to toe and use half my clip for one guy?
He talks but i don't see no one at my door. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:52:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. It's not easy because they have chance to run and i've used half of my ammo. WHAT!? HTFU!!! You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter! Do you even know how a HMG works? So my HMG should go toe to toe and use half my clip for one guy? He talks but i don't see no one at my door. Great rebuttal kid, couldn't even refute even one of my statements. You've already been exposed as a crybaby who's mad that everyone runs from him while continues to spray and runs out of ammo, boooo hoooo, BUFF ME. I'm done with you nerd.
I would murder you in a fight , so don't call me kid /nerd. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:54:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:I would be perfectly happy with the 100% cpu upgrade that ALL other protos get, and another low slot. as well as dmg mods being fixed
3 high 2 low for proto at the crazy price just doesnt add up. (which is only 1 more high from either advanced)
and half a clip for 1 kill? practice aim bud ;-)
learn your range, and lay off the trigger when your target takes cover.. HMG isnt supposed to shoot thru walls
I know everything about a heavy but when your roll is to push and you can't that. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 19:26:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:4447 wrote:
I would murder you in a fight , so don't call me kid /nerd.
NERD You're most likely diabetic, suffer from as asthma and fatter than your heavy suit in real life, come at me bro.
No, I'm a door men that could lift and throw you. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 19:31:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Wish I had links to all the threads where the old school heavies have been saying this since day one.
What from their last big Nuff. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:34:00 -
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Mark Burkhart wrote:i will agree with 4447 on his first post on this thread. I have been noticeing that my b-series isnt very good in terms of compeating with other suits, even now that the ptw proto suits are out. Also in reguards the HMG is fine where it is in terms of DMG but the suit i do thinks needs a bit of a buff in terms of armor/shields. The only reasion i say this is because there are assault guys in the corp that can take there proto suit and put 500 shields and like 300 armor and there should NEVER be that close of a stat merge. i know the heavy has been neffed to make all the randoms happy but when i cant even go 1v1 anymore with a AR i gotta look back and say wtf an AR can 1v1 me now makeing my heavy kinda useless and furthermore heavys i know that play the class very well are changeing there class even after 4mil sp has been put into it. the only thing i would really like to see is the progressive stats put back into all the suits so as to where when i lvl up from say standard suit to advanced there is also a bigger armor/shield pool to draw from just like they had it on the 1-4 build in closed bete. the armor heavy took a 400 point hit to its stats then and as much as that sucked we delt with it, the fact that a assault suit can almost match a heavy in terms of armor /shields just isnt right if the heavy is suppose to be more of a "defender" class. in all honesty ill still play my heavy cause its what i do but i really hope there is a improvement to the suit because i really is geting hard to compeat with the assault suits or the scout/AR suits.
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:44:00 -
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Positive of heavy: Killing machine close up. Armour high.
Negative of heavy: Slow. Can't jump. No Nano Hive Slot.(If tanks don't need a logi why do heavies?) Cost of running a heavy is to much to be competitive(Now everyone is running proto). To many open maps.
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:01:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I'm not really sure about this. I've never been sitting face down in a pool of my own blood after getting torn in half by a heavy thinking, "gee, heavies are really underpowered." Having said that, I've also cut plenty of heavies in half myself, but I always thought that was due to my range superiority on my AR, not because heavies were weak.
It's happening now, heavies will be outdated soon because of people running proto gear and heavies just can't compete because are gear cost to much to compete.
I'm going to start spec into assault because i'd be able to run proto gear and make money. |
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Posted - 2013.03.08 13:49:00 -
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People are really not getting the argument.
The point is that we can't fight proto classes because it cost to much to fight and we will go bankrupt. |
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:27:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:4447 wrote:People are really not getting the argument.
The point is that we can't fight proto classes because it cost to much to fight and we will go bankrupt. I think you saying that the HMG needs a buff threw a wrench into the cogs right off the start. The community is quite split on that issue atm. Also the fact that you wen't off into a couple tangents instead of sticking to "reduce the price of proto heavies" and that the title of the thread is "heavies are UP" instead of "proto heavies need a price drop" sort of threw off your intent in writing this thread as well. If you meant "proto heavies need a price drop", you should have said "proto heavies need a price drop", given a few points to show your case, and left it at that. It seems the simplest posts are the least likely to derail since this forum is so packed with immature no lifers who only want to troll.
I could of thought of a better argument but next time i will...
I think heavies need a price drop or all other classes need a price increase. |
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:39:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:4447 wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:4447 wrote:People are really not getting the argument.
The point is that we can't fight proto classes because it cost to much to fight and we will go bankrupt. I think you saying that the HMG needs a buff threw a wrench into the cogs right off the start. The community is quite split on that issue atm. Also the fact that you wen't off into a couple tangents instead of sticking to "reduce the price of proto heavies" and that the title of the thread is "heavies are UP" instead of "proto heavies need a price drop" sort of threw off your intent in writing this thread as well. If you meant "proto heavies need a price drop", you should have said "proto heavies need a price drop", given a few points to show your case, and left it at that. It seems the simplest posts are the least likely to derail since this forum is so packed with immature no lifers who only want to troll. I could of thought of a better argument but next time i will... I think heavies need a price drop or all other classes need a price increase. Nah heavies are walking tanks they should have a large cost to them. They shouldnt be something you can spec into and play willy nilly they really are a specialist class. Similar to HAV's they have a high ISK cost because they can do a ton of damage. That said been saying since the beginning Heavies need a BUFF in SUIT and a RANGE NERF in HMG. Everything else is fine. The heavy should a BULLET SPONGE that does HIGH DPS IN CQC. Beyond this a heavy should be FAILBOT. Also look at CB that are CQC maps, an entire squad of heavies can wreck the world. Or better yet 4 heavies. 2 MD and whatever else you want and you will destroy on CQC maps.
Price drop in proto suits or a increase in other classes proto gear. |
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