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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:40:00 -
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4447 wrote:The game has come to be play to win because of the cost of money items to ISK items. I can't compete because of it would cost me more ISK to go Proto and i would go bankrupt. The best i can do is advance and if i loss 3 suits a game i'm losing money.
I would put money into the game but, theres nothing to buy at this point of time...
Coming to my point i've notice that my heavy is becoming less useful in battle. I use to be able to take 2 to 3 people before i die and now it's hopefully one,Now it's not all the time but it is shafting to my heavy being useless.
I want to compete CCP but this game is not letting me.
So you can't afford to run Proto Heavy all the time?
Simple solution: Don't use it all the time.
Bring a cheap(er) Heavy suit at the beginning of a match. If it looks like you're going to do well, and having that little bit extra would be an advantage, bring your best gear the next time you spawn in. If you're looking like it's still going to make you a profit and will benefit the team, keep running with it. If you look like you're going to start losing money, stop running the expensive fitting and drop back to a cheaper one. If you've been barely covering costs (or failing to do so), run several matches with only cheap/free gear to effectively grind for ISK and get yourself back on track. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:55:00 -
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4447 wrote:It's not the point because if i spec into assault i could run proto gear all the time.
Then that should be part of the point. Because not everybody can run Proto Assault all the time without losing ISK or spending AUR.
But then, some people have shown up here just to complain about how "I have to spend $5 an hour to play" because they didn't realise that you could buy gear with ISK if you wanted to. So there doesn't seem to be a minimum limit to human intelligence.
And I hope the Heavy suits get their upper tiers fixed. A decent buff and maybe a slight price drop would be a good start, imo. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too.
So what you're saying is that it's fine for Proto Heavies to be underpowered because it somehow balances out the fact that low-tier Heavies are OP (pro-tip: they aren't, you just suck at countering heavies)? |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:46:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:lol yeah right, it's called people adapting to the Heavy's Bullshit.
A heavy can still easily take out 1-2 people within their CQC range, protosuit or not. Don't you dare try and BS and call your suit underpowered because you're dying a lot more often than when the game was brand new and everybody was behind in terms of fire power and match-up knowledge compared to the heavy.
Crying for a buff because now the protosuits are killing you, pathetic, when does it end? You heavy's are just always going to want an easy mode advantage. Can't wait till your HMG's Laser Rifle range gets nerfed so you can cry about that too. So what you're saying is that it's fine for Proto Heavies to be underpowered because it somehow balances out the fact that low-tier Heavies are OP (pro-tip: they aren't, you just suck at countering heavies)? The hell are you even talking about right now!? Can you even read you imbred? When did I say any of what you're implying moron?
The problem being pointed out in this thread is that the jump in ISK cost for Heavy suits is too high for the benefits of those suits. The scaling of other suits from one tier to the next is much higher than the Heavy, and the price gaps between tiers are much smaller.
You're arguing that it's fine for Heavies to be screwed out of usefulness at higher tiers because they can easily run through multiple players before that point. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 19:05:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:No, I simply explained the validity of why the Protosuit heavy is perfectly fine as is, aside from the fact that it indeed needs a 100% CPU upgrade like all the other suits and another 1 extra low slot. Go ahead and reduce the price of the Proto Heavies, I can hardly see any imbalance to gameplay because of it.
So you're saying the Proto Heavy is fine as is, but it could use an extra low slot, more CPU and reducing the price won't unbalance it even with those buffs?
How exactly is that meant to make any sense at all? |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 20:03:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Crims0n Viper wrote:No, I simply explained the validity of why the Protosuit heavy is perfectly fine as is, aside from the fact that it indeed needs a 100% CPU upgrade like all the other suits and another 1 extra low slot. Go ahead and reduce the price of the Proto Heavies, I can hardly see any imbalance to gameplay because of it. So you're saying the Proto Heavy is fine as is, but it could use an extra low slot, more CPU and reducing the price won't unbalance it even with those buffs? How exactly is that meant to make any sense at all? People want 2 extra High slots and 2 extra low slots, and 100% CPU upgrade, a well as an ISK descrease, big difference you prick. Are you trying to argue with me or do you just love sounding stupid?
Are you trying to make a valid point or do you just love calling people stupid when you're the one failing to make any sense?
Because until now, nothing you said was coming across with anything resembling coherency. Maybe you should work on your English skills some more before assuming your inability to express yourself is actually intelligible. That might help you to avoid situations like this in future.
You've been fluctuating between saying the Proto Heavy needs a buff, and saying it's fine, and saying that Heavies in general are more powerful than they should be and it's stupid for someone to complain that the Proto suit needs to be better. If you could settle (like you did in this post) on a single opinion and present the same idea consistently, you might make enough sense for people to take you seriously. |
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