There has been no change to the heavy other than it needs to be tweaked so it doesnt outway all other classes. So stop your whining.

WHAT!? HTFU!!!

You serious? What a crybaby thread, you have a 1000 bullet Clip and your complaining about using HALF your ammo, and the redberries can run away from you. Guess what, the Redberries can run away from anybody and everybody runs out of ammo you douche, you're too used to the easy mode you were happily accustomed too during the early days of open beta, those days are over you my friend Stop expecting all your kills to be handed to you on a silver platter!

At least give us an equipment slot for nanohives at proto, jeesh!

And what about logis and vehicules ?

My logi fit A-serie cost me 100k+ ISK, and I don't pay my gun : I play Exile. (can't imagine with vk1 and all proto stuff...)

My Madrugar cost me 750k ISK, and with enough teamplay, ennemies can destroy it.

If you can't deal with your proto stuff ALL the time, just leave it, your passives skills are not up enough, and you need a good logibro all the time.

It's all about risk, adaptation and reaction.

Edit : and as a corp, we know that some people earn more money than others, take less risks, or are really good to be rich. Thoose people help the others, because they trained a role that we need for FW ;) !!!

Doesn't matter the fit we are talking about. Heavies are perfect like this. Maybe 1 more high or low slot for the vk1.
It's all about teamplay. If heavies think that running alone in front of 10 guys and kill them all because of their high HP, they're wrong.

It's all about ISK, teamplay, and roleplay. Deal with this.

CCP buff the heavy please

Full proto fit, A proto heavy suit by itself costs more than that.

What's so funny?

The feeling is mutual, but for the sake of SCIENCE! I'll keep it civil and walk you through it.

Your example is a disembodied AR shooting at disembodied shields. You can't equip a damage mod without giving up the slot for something else, like shields.

In game it comes down to your fit + SP + player skill VS his fit + SP + player skill. We'll have to assume SP is equal or else the hypotheticals get out of control. And player skill is most important, but it's also the most highly variable, so we have to factor it out.

For the sake of example let's compare two suits.

Both have:
Assault Vk.1: 225 Shields, 105 Armor base
Duvolle Assault Rifle: 34.1 Damage, 750 RPM, 426.25 DPS
Lows: 1 armor rep of equal quality, 2x 87HP plates

One guy has 4x Complex Damage mods at 1.1x multiplier each, the other has Complex Extenders, at +66 Shield HP each.

Both have max Weaponry, AR Spec, armor, and shield skills. AR does 110% damage to shields, 90% damage to armor.

Damage mod guy final stats:
Shield HP: 281.25
Armor HP: 305.25
DPS: 789.45 (base*1.1 weaponry*1.15 spec*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1mods)

Shield mod guy final stats:
Shield HP: 545.25
Armor HP: 305.25
DPS: 539.20 (base*1.1 weaponry*1.15 spec)

Damage mod guy kills shield guy in 1.058s.
Shield guy kills damage mod guy in 0.904s.

TLDR: Shield mods win.

Please let this be a joke. Damage mods don't have a stacking penalty and still do worse. If they get a stacking penalty, shield mods should get a stacking penalty as well.