You're simply wrong. You're mowing people down in your low SP heavy simply because the other team sucks, and not because it's overpowered against evenly skilled opponents.

What's the difference between a newly started heavy vs a newly started assault and then an experienced heavy vs an experienced assault?

If the low SP assaults wake up and play smart then they can easily take down the low SP heavy. If they keep engaging the low SP heavy in it's optimal range one at a time they're screwed, but again, how is that any different than a dedicated assault going up against a dedicated heavy (other than the fact that proto assault > proto heavy)?

I disagree about the HMG being over powered. Its a situational weapon, pug matches against inexperienced players create the situation not the weapon. its the same for tanks and any md or lazer or ar worth his salt. inexperienced players die a lot, get used to it.

If people would pay attention and look for tanks md lazers and miniguns it would not be a problem

Maybe they should take away militia ar's or give everyone militia pre built drop suits of every weapon? give them like 50 of each of every suit/weapon that way players will use the other weapons and learn counters.

At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly.

At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly.

Thing is, balance is nonexistant right now mainly cause so many noobs at the moment can make anything look overpowered. Assault Rifle showed up most on the kill feed, yet no one complains about them.

one game? seriously? you have no clue whatsoever.

Everything if OP vs nubs with no skills and no clue.

Heavy is pretty good for it's intended roles and little else.

Heavy with LAV is OP

the only way i can answere that question honestly is months down the road if i get proto, at this juncture though, compared to others suites only the same sp lvl, this one dominates on almost every aspect except speed. have you tried hmg with sensitivity turned to 100?

You don't need the proto heavy suit to tell it's useless against other proto suits. I'll just drop this link here.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48414

lolprotoheavy..such a joke of a suit.

but in regards to balancing anything and saying something is OP....how bout we stop balancing stuff in pub matches? Everyone knows that a lot of the new players right now are ridiculously easy to kill with anything..and lack many brain cells (standing in front of a tank shooting it with an ar for example).

Balancing should be left to corp match data, where there are 2 coordinated teams. If something just completely dominates there, then yes, it needs adjusted.

We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it).

But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP?

As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover.


I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon.

and how does this statement refute the fact that the HMG needs nerffing?

lolheavyprotosuit...talk about a worthless suit. Arguably the most useless Proto suit in the game.

So basically a heavy that plays his role, CQC combat, is OP? Great logic guys!

By that logic Snipers should be nerfed because they shoot from far away and get kills.

Assault rifles should be nerfed because they're too over all! Killing at CQC and mid range...can't have that, as it's playing it's role.

Nerf the shotguns because they're not suppose to kill at point blank.

Nerf SMGs because they're not suppose to kill at close range either!

Nerf tanks, because they're not suppose to take any hits. AR's are suppose to kill tanks.

Nerf dropships because they're not suppose to fly people to objectives and provide cover.

In fact, let's just make this an all out AR game. Just drop every class and gun, because apparently using an AR and Assault suit is "skillful".

I can't comprehend the logic of people. If you face a heavy 1v1 IN HIS OPTIMUM ENVIRONMENT, YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO DIE. . Unless he's a bad heavy or damaged already.

It's like facing a sniper when he's up in the mountains...what you going to do? 1v1 him with your AR a mile away? I realize logic in this forum means nothing, as once you're not using an AR, you're a "scrub", but the lack of any logic shows the level of intelligence in this forum.

Clearly not knowing how to use the Vk. 1 to it's full potential...

Put a complex speed mod, a complex armor repairer, 2 complex shields, and a complex damage mod/shield recharger.

Clearly not knowing how to use the Vk. 1 to it's full potential...

Put a complex speed mod, a complex armor repairer, 2 complex shields, and a complex damage mod/shield recharger.