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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:11:00 -
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crazy space 2100046106 wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Kaserai Mandrag wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Kaserai Mandrag wrote:The perfect example of another brainless COD player beating the dead horse.
Honestly, your trying to use THAT video for proof on why the HMG is"overpowered"? Pathetic.
First, let me point out that EVERY kill you received in the first 60 seconds of gameplay was due to a Good flanking maneuver. I didn't see a single enemy even turn toward you. Seriously? A newberrie with a normal AR could've gotten those kills. Real "op."
Second, the kills you received where people were actually shooting at you were all within FIVE METERS. If you had strapped an AR to this heavy, you would've had the SAME effect!!! See this is the perfect example of how whiners dislike using that wonderful Brain God gave them. Do you truly think killing someone within 10 metes while using a HMG makes the gun OP? (If I might add, he was in a group most of the time To.)
No, I don't think you do. I think your just to lazy to take the time to figure out HOW to kill a heavy (yes, that sentence had 4 infinitives. Do not judge me.)
Get over it.
sounds like you need to get off your own high horse, and on my assault class, i have no problem taking a heavy down, and yes i will continue to use my alt heavy and wreck with it. Did anyone else catch that? He said "he has an easy time killing heavies.". So your just whining for The heck of it? Disappointing. Since you failed to Refute any point in my argument, then by logic, my points are valid. If you manage to make a video where you walk head on into 5 guys, and manage to kill them all singlehandedly, then we'll consider if the HMG is OP. Until then, your wasting your breath with bad facts and how does this statement refute the fact that the HMG needs nerffing? Um you were just the one that said its easy to kill a heavy. You idiot hardly a revelation when we're talking about someone posting in the wrong section with poor evidence and an even worse argument to go along with it. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:33:00 -
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Nickles Jester wrote:Once again do yourself a favor and start watching these http://www.youtube.com/user/betamax514?feature=watch I don't care if anyone else watches its not my channel, and it's not my videos, but it is my corps videos. If it helps you and prevents people like you from posting frivolous nerf requests in the future then they've done their job. I'm only posting this link here for you OP because you need it.
my skills are far superior to those in the video, nothing to see there.......in fact, all i see here is someone trying to promote someones NEW channel on youtube, geez, you want me to teach you how to promote a channel, network yourself? Perhaps a basic teaching of how to render in HD? |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:40:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:lowratehitman wrote:like i said, it is what it is. it is op for a new player to be able to come into the game and have this much power and dominance over other classes that have the same amount of sp invested in the build....we can debate all day on it. And Betamax, I have my gimp suit tight and it puts work in,and have no complaints about production, so thanks for the offer, but I hold my ground on it being op
I enjoy running type II heavy with the HMG, I love it, and I laugh when I mow people down due to there being little that can be done about it from the majority of players. As for well put together squads, if 4 men cant take one heavy down....something is wrong 0o...in which yeah, 4 people can easily do it working together, of course you will be able to take one down under those circumstances. You're simply wrong. You're mowing people down in your low SP heavy simply because the other team sucks, and not because it's overpowered against evenly skilled opponents. What's the difference between a newly started heavy vs a newly started assault and then an experienced heavy vs an experienced assault? If the low SP assaults wake up and play smart then they can easily take down the low SP heavy. If they keep engaging the low SP heavy in it's optimal range one at a time they're screwed, but again, how is that any different than a dedicated assault going up against a dedicated heavy (other than the fact that proto assault > proto heavy)? the only way i can answere that question honestly is months down the road if i get proto, at this juncture though, compared to others suites only the same sp lvl, this one dominates on almost every aspect except speed. have you tried hmg with sensitivity turned to 100? You don't need the proto heavy suit to tell it's useless against other proto suits. I'll just drop this link here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48414
that was a good read, but at the proto level, can any other suits have as much shield/armour as the heavy proto if core skills are spec and maxed? |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:13:00 -
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type 2 is good because armor does not passively regenerate lacking mods, but shields do, Having used the BPO millita heavy, once someone gets you low on health even if your shields come back you are basically neutered. So its basically good to solo in, heavy's with 650 armor can be better tankers with remote reps, but that takes away the solo game.
Not sure why type 2 should get a nerf, its just trading shield for armor, different play-style different preferences. If local reps were not so ridiculously underpowered to shield regen more people would solo armor tank.
Having played a heavy because I got interested by the video, I can say that it is pretty fun, I get more kills (sometimes) but over all, I get the same exp and isk from playing all milita gear logi combining WP for kills and reps, and revives.
A heavy is powerful with HMG, but it is not invincible, it fills a role that is easy to do, so it has its appeal.
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lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:23:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:type 2 is good because armor does not passively regenerate lacking mods, but shields do, Having used the BPO millita heavy, once someone gets you low on health even if your shields come back you are basically neutered. So its basically good to solo in, heavy's with 650 armor can be better tankers with remote reps, but that takes away the solo game.
Not sure why type 2 should get a nerf, its just trading shield for armor, different play-style different preferences. If local reps were not so ridiculously underpowered to shield regen more people would solo armor tank.
Having played a heavy because I got interested by the video, I can say that it is pretty fun, I get more kills (sometimes) but over all, I get the same exp and isk from playing all milita gear logi combining WP for kills and reps, and revives.
A heavy is powerful with HMG, but it is not invincible, it fills a role that is easy to do, so it has its appeal.
Anytime anyone says anything about the heavy, it is a riot, the fourm is heavy deep.Alot of what i said was taken out of context. If you watched the video, I say I have a little over 600k sp invested in the suit.And that if anybody, refering to my friends on youtube, would like to play as a heavy I could get them in that suit and hmg from the start basically. And that the class that i was running takes very little skill, and it is just point and click.
For a new player to be able to come straight into the game, play 10 rounds farming the isk required to buy the skillbooks, and jump right into the fit i was running in the video, it is indeed op in my opinion. No other class is that powerful at the same sp level. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:28:00 -
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Nickles Jester wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Nickles Jester wrote:At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly. one game? seriously? you have no clue whatsoever. You only posted video from one game where you didn't get so much as 20 kills against harsh newbies, I've gone at least 22-4 with just the enforcer assault set. I do know what I'm talking about as I have played for quite a few builds now. Do your homework son BetaMax is one of the first corps in this game. I don't need views or to impress other vets. I'm just trying to save you from your own ignorance because you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about. Ya need to stop acting so butthurt and quit calling for nerfs when no nerfs are needed. You need to learn how to play the game and I am simply trying to give you an opportunity to do that. So do yourself a favor and quit letting your pride do all the talking for you.
Thanks for the gesture, jester. I have learned in life to not worry about others, and worry about myself, if I need your help,I will ask, and I was being humble with the video, I could have EASILY posted a much much higher K/D round if that was my intention. It sounds like you are the one that is butt hurt over my video, so please, get off my ass.
Just wait till I get some of those big COD players that have those huge sub bases over here doing gameplay, than it will be an all out war. This game is not hard to learn, people make it out to be rocket science, so please, go push your how to chat and equip a rifle videos to someone who needs them. thx |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.28 05:51:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ
Calls skirmish "scrimage"
All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 06:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ Calls skirmish "scrimage" All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op
i can care less what you THINK, getting pretty petty that you have to start dissing how someone pronounces a word. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.28 06:43:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ Calls skirmish "scrimage" All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op i can care less what you THINK, getting pretty petty that you have to start dissing how someone pronounces a word.
Thats not mispronunciation, thats clearly not knowing WTF you are talking about. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 06:49:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ Calls skirmish "scrimage" All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op i can care less what you THINK, getting pretty petty that you have to start dissing how someone pronounces a word. Thats not mispronunciation, thats clearly not knowing WTF you are talking about.
I know what I am talking about, I have trouble proniuncing the word skrimish, if you have a problem with that ,move on!
I have dealt with petty ass haters and trolls all my life, so do not think there is anything that can be said that can really make me give 2 fuks, capiche? |
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.28 06:57:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ Calls skirmish "scrimage" All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op i can care less what you THINK, getting pretty petty that you have to start dissing how someone pronounces a word. Thats not mispronunciation, thats clearly not knowing WTF you are talking about. I know what I am talking about, I have trouble proniuncing the word skrimish, if you have a problem with that ,move on! I have dealt with petty ass haters and trolls all my life, so do not think there is anything that can be said that can really make me give 2 fuks, capiche?
You have no argument bro, come back in a few weeks when everyone has adv and pro suits, cabbage? |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 07:05:00 -
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I will come back when my heavy has proto, CABBAGE? |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:40:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ Calls skirmish "scrimage" All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op i can care less what you THINK, getting pretty petty that you have to start dissing how someone pronounces a word. Thats not mispronunciation, thats clearly not knowing WTF you are talking about. I know what I am talking about, I have trouble proniuncing the word skrimish, if you have a problem with that ,move on! I have dealt with petty ass haters and trolls all my life, so do not think there is anything that can be said that can really make me give 2 fuks, capiche?
Thats SKIRMISH btw
Heavys are not OP we Perform our roll as designed.
You seem to be the type of person to Want Snipers nerfed cuz of there Long range, Logis cuz they can res people and give ammo right? |
Pimp Hand Strong
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:54:00 -
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Nope, i think I am tried of repeating myself due to people being lazy and not reading through 7 pages of poo, ya dig, and we went over the skrimish ordeal about 5 posts back, are you that petty as well?
Everyone has inspired me to continue posting videos in the Type II HMG build I have, next video road to gold, how to lone wolf it and be in it to win it! goal 5.0 K/D current 3.40 ish , I clearly see no problem doing it! |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:58:00 -
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How many ISK does it take to put out a hit on a lowratehitman?
Here is an ISK, kid. Go buy yourself a life.
Learn to play or stick to Easy Birds. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:04:00 -
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Pimp Hand Strong wrote:Nope, i think I am tried of repeating myself due to people being lazy and not reading through 7 pages of poo, ya dig, and we went over the skrimish ordeal about 5 posts back, are you that petty as well?
Everyone has inspired me to continue posting videos in the Type II HMG build I have, next video road to gold, how to lone wolf it and be in it to win it! goal 5.0 K/D current 3.40 ish , I clearly see no problem doing it!
Still dont know how to Spell It? S K I R M I S H the R comes after the I Not Skrimish but Skirmish.
I think Tanks are OP your inspired by videos have inspired me to make some vidoes, My goal 30.0 K/D |
Pimp Hand Strong
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:08:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Pimp Hand Strong wrote:Nope, i think I am tried of repeating myself due to people being lazy and not reading through 7 pages of poo, ya dig, and we went over the skrimish ordeal about 5 posts back, are you that petty as well?
Everyone has inspired me to continue posting videos in the Type II HMG build I have, next video road to gold, how to lone wolf it and be in it to win it! goal 5.0 K/D current 3.40 ish , I clearly see no problem doing it! Still dont know how to Spell It? S K I R M I S H the R comes after the I Not Skrimish but Skirmish. I think Tanks are OP your inspired by videos have inspired me to make some vidoes, My goal 30.0 K/D
lol, I want to ride, dual commentary? |
Pimp Hand Strong
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:09:00 -
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Thranx1231 wrote:How many ISK does it take to put out a hit on a lowratehitman?
Here is an ISK, kid. Go buy yourself a life.
Learn to play or stick to Easy Birds.
Im not worried about no stinking HIT! Keeps me from chasing the enemy, makes them come to me 0o
in my weak 600k isk build |
Pimp Hand Strong
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:13:00 -
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Pimp Hand Strong wrote:Thranx1231 wrote:How many ISK does it take to put out a hit on a lowratehitman?
Here is an ISK, kid. Go buy yourself a life.
Learn to play or stick to Easy Birds. Im not worried about no stinking HIT! Keeps me from chasing the enemy, makes them come to me 0o in my weak 600k isk build
I will consider learning to "play" when anyone that I play with says, lowrate, you need to learn to play the game. |
Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
6
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:07:00 -
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when the game is full release i will play has heavy and leaving behind outher classes and many of the people complaining too why?
1 its OP 2 easy shooting with soo many bullets flying in the air 3 Nice armor 4 its not fast has a soldier but why do you need a soldier when you have a tank 5 its a mini gun come on a freeking mini gun how cool is that 6 at the end you have great K/D score 7 makes the other classes feel frustration after dying and dying and dying all over again
this are the reasons im going to be a heavy lolol make you think a little
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rpastry
Carbon 7
28
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Posted - 2013.01.30 10:51:00 -
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in that vid youre mainly 1v1 vs unskilled players who dont see you, you've got support and cover when you reload. youve also got a L2 suit which is 200k SP, and im pretty sure a shield regulator thats at least L2. despite that a few of them almost get you (and would have 1v1) but you have support close by.
the advantage you have over your assault guy is that a few times when you're caught out an assault would have died. this is the advantage a heavy suit has.
youre also sticking close to cover in areas of the map that suit a heavy and engaging at close range. the few 'distance' kills you get (<60m) take longer as expected at max range. theyre usually vs people running sideways across open areas who dont appear to know where you are.
Im pretty sure you as AR could take out you as a HMG. The vid is just a rock in a small box full of crap scissors. |
Dakota Grizzly
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:07:00 -
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i wanna know why the hell people are saying the HMG is over powered wow. Ya know what caliber does the HMG shoot hmmmm im pretty sure its anywhere from a 7.62 to a .50 caliber. So yes the HMG should be one of the most powerful guns in the game. And i dont give a dam what ya'll think cause no matter what you say the .50 well take a limb off of anything you shoot at. So if ya'll wanna ***** about certain guns then do it to your mommy cause we heavy users dont give a **** and just take it like a trooper and figure out a different game plan to take ME down. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:25:00 -
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Dakota Grizzly wrote:i wanna know why the hell people are saying the HMG is over powered wow. Ya know what caliber does the HMG shoot hmmmm im pretty sure its anywhere from a 7.62 to a .50 caliber. So yes the HMG should be one of the most powerful guns in the game. And i dont give a dam what ya'll think cause no matter what you say the .50 well take a limb off of anything you shoot at. So if ya'll wanna ***** about certain guns then do it to your mommy cause we heavy users dont give a **** and just take it like a trooper and figure out a different game plan to take ME down.
HMG is not OP but the heavy class needs to be tweaked and more balanced. For starters they are way to fast, movement speed should be reduced. There should be no sprint at all. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:52:00 -
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Not very OP when you can barely move or turn and people with Assault rifles or lighter can literally run circles around you, Heavies move so slow that if the situation should turn bad, you sure as hell aint gonna run far away any time soon. You can barely Jump so you normally have to take the long way around to get anywhere.
The point of a heavy is to shock and awe, walk into against multiple targets spray and soften them up before enforcers slip in behind to deliver the final shots to the ones you failed to kill. Also Heavies with HMG and Forge guns are so loud you see them from a distance away and they turn up on radar, so not like you don't get an early warning. People don't have to stand and fight they can withdraw to other players or to a more favourable position due to the speed advantage.
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Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:21:00 -
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This guy in the video was playing it smart though, and flanking along with supporting hos pinned teammates, and a few of those guys we already dead.
Heck I don't know why im arguing about the HMG I use a gek (sometimes) the gek is horribly exspensive and you probably die atleast 5 times a map I mean heck the gek got like 200k isk just to stock 2 gek riflemen. |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
19
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:43:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Just saying if you use a HMG and you die more than twice in a game, you are probably really bad.
I have been saying they need to nerf hmg but noone wants to listen cuz they all use it
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iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:44:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Yeah I specced into HMG's last build just to try it out. Some guy with and AR started shooting me, so I went to take a shower, I went to school, I came back home, I ate dinner, and by the time I got back to dust I was at half health and I just sprayed him with my HMG and laughed.
pretty much sums this up..noone wants to listen to this cuz it is true...ok if you don't want to nerf the hmg some how then nerf the heavy armor they use then.. I see 30-0 20-2, 18-0 with these scrubs who use the hmg |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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DUST Fiend wrote:Stupid forum ate my post.... Basically, HMG needs a serious range nerf / accuracy nerf at range, aside from the assault HMG, since that's garbage already. It also needs to have a faster heat up rate, so you actually have to juggle your bursts to maintain optimal dps and not overheat. For haha's I made a Type I Heavy with a Pistol and an SMG, went 8/0 the only time I used it (Oh, and I'm a full time HMG heavy, trust me, this thing is too easy to use. I make it my life's work to kill all HMG heavies I see, even periodically committing suicide by dropping into a sea of red dots, taking as many down with me as I can (which is usually quite a few, the HMG is a thing of glory in crowded CQC, as it should be
glad you admitted it is easy to use..noone else wants the nerf cuz there goes their easy kills and k/d ration ... it is a joke how many use the noob cannon |
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:56:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ This post and video are pure truth. Excellent commentary too, you sound like a cool dude We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it). But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP? As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover. I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon. ! 1000000000000000000000% agree. I am a a AR user use a typ3 2 assualt armor sometimes Sever logi armor and you hit the point spot on. take time to TRY and run or move from hmg and or try to take them out with a GEK and it wont work. they could have less range, heat up quicker have more recoil something to make this gun not so OP! I hope this nerf comes soon! |
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Posted - 2013.02.12 22:59:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:lowratehitman wrote:I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ This post and video are pure truth. Excellent commentary too, you sound like a cool dude We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it). But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP? As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover. I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon.
! 1000000000000000000000% agree. I am a a AR user use a type 2 assualt armor sometimes Sver logi armor and you hit the point spot on. take time to TRY and run or move from hmg and or try to take them out with a GEK and it wont work. they could have less range, heat up quicker have more recoil something to make this gun not so OP! I hope this nerf comes soon! |
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