This post and video are pure truth. Excellent commentary too, you sound like a cool dude

We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it).

But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP?

As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover.


I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon.

The perfect example of another brainless COD player beating the dead horse.

Honestly, your trying to use THAT video for proof on why the HMG is"overpowered"?
Pathetic.

First, let me point out that EVERY kill you received in the first 60 seconds of gameplay was due to a
Good flanking maneuver. I didn't see a single enemy even turn toward you. Seriously? A newberrie with a normal AR could've gotten those kills. Real "op."

Second, the kills you received where people were actually shooting at you were all within FIVE METERS. If you had strapped an AR to this heavy, you would've had the SAME effect!!! See this is the perfect example of how whiners dislike using that wonderful
Brain God gave them. Do you truly think killing someone within
10 metes while using a HMG makes the gun OP? (If I might add, he was in a group most of the time
To.)


No, I don't think you do. I think your just to lazy to take the time to figure out HOW to kill a heavy (yes, that sentence had 4 infinitives. Do not judge me.)



Get over it.

I know, I know, beating the same old war drum, but hey, was the AR not on the chopping block? Indeed it was,and it was nerfed and put into its place. I am all about being honest with my opinions, and I truly feel the HMG needs to be nerfed once more. In the video link below you can see how easy it is to mow the enemy down in a build that has barely 600k sp invested in it, and not having reps as well. The class truly is just point and click and watch the meat fly,with nearly no skill needed. The class is fun indeed, but having assault as my main, and having near 1.8 mil sp invested in it strictly on the slayer type build, my lower level alt Heavy HMG class makes it look like a waste of time. I do give props to the dedicated Forge gunners, and will say patience and skill is needed for Forge sniping. I understand that alot of people will not agree with me, but I am cool with that, anything I am saying is not a lie, I can say that much for sure...enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW37vsY2NMQ

Your video and attempted 'body of proof' is an absolute joke. You could have gotten those kills just as easily, and actually a lot faster in most cases if you had been using an Assault Rifle. Maybe, just maybe, before you whine and complain and QQ on the forums about it, you could take the time to figure out how to counter it, and you might have an enlightened viewpoint.

That said, if you're actively going to campaign against the HMG, please stop. I have a feeling that a large amount of "HMG IS OVERPOWERED!!" threads, regardless of how credible, are going to kill the weapon.

Go back to Call of Duty if you can't handle class variation.

Hi, newberrie here (day 3)

Please ccp don't nurff the heavies.

Yes they are ripping people a new one because people keep running at them head on.

Come across a heavy, out flank them/nad them.

Come across a sniper, out flank them and get in close.

Let this be a game where instead of nurffing weapons so they have no definable roll, let this be a game where weapons are given a clear advantage but with tactics and skill you can over come.

Sorry I don't know how to say what i want to say clearer >_<

The perfect example of another brainless COD player beating the dead horse.

Honestly, your trying to use THAT video for proof on why the HMG is"overpowered"?
Pathetic.

First, let me point out that EVERY kill you received in the first 60 seconds of gameplay was due to a
Good flanking maneuver. I didn't see a single enemy even turn toward you. Seriously? A newberrie with a normal AR could've gotten those kills. Real "op."

Second, the kills you received where people were actually shooting at you were all within FIVE METERS. If you had strapped an AR to this heavy, you would've had the SAME effect!!! See this is the perfect example of how whiners dislike using that wonderful
Brain God gave them. Do you truly think killing someone within
10 metes while using a HMG makes the gun OP? (If I might add, he was in a group most of the time
To.)


No, I don't think you do. I think your just to lazy to take the time to figure out HOW to kill a heavy (yes, that sentence had 4 infinitives. Do not judge me.)



Get over it.

sounds like you need to get off your own high horse, and on my assault class, i have no problem taking a heavy down, and yes i will continue to use my alt heavy and wreck with it.

you tell me to go back to COD when I have been on dust prob as long as you? seriously?I will stay, and say as I choose, bottom line!

Did anyone else catch that? He said "he has an easy time killing heavies.". So your just whining for
The heck of it? Disappointing. Since you failed to
Refute any point in my argument, then by logic, my points are valid.

If you manage to make a video where you walk head on into 5 guys, and manage to kill them all singlehandedly, then we'll consider if the HMG is OP.


Until then, your wasting your breath with bad facts

I think militia shotguns are more op, especially when paired with the speed of scout suits.
Everybody is always picking on the fat guy.

I wouldn't be against the militia shotgun taking a damage hit. The things would one-shot my Type-II Heavy suits before the open beta. Higher tier shotguns should retain most, if not all, of their damage though.

you are living proof that the world is not getting any smarter. Your troll post gets a 1/10 from being so very unoriginal and tired that I heard it playing multiplayer quake as a teenager.

I demand a higher quality of troll. quit being a derp, and I said I live in armor heavy over shield. i'd say I've gotten pretty good at it.

i turn a corner in my heavy...BOOM! dead...WTF!?!?!, oh, militia scout with shotgun, sigh, 50000 isk down the drain.

I hate when that happens.

He never engages alone.

Engages practically all militia geared people.

Most of the people he kills don't even fire at him.

Engages in the optimum range pretty much all the time with a weapon that is designed around being a room-clearer.

The weapon must be OP.

And I'd like to point out that I'm running Logi medic, the portrait is just from a character I was too nostalgic to delete.

like i said, it is what it is. it is op for a new player to be able to come into the game and have this much power and dominance over other classes that have the same amount of sp invested in the build....we can debate all day on it. And Betamax, I have my gimp suit tight and it puts work in,and have no complaints about production, so thanks for the offer, but I hold my ground on it being op

I enjoy running type II heavy with the HMG, I love it, and I laugh when I mow people down due to there being little that can be done about it from the majority of players. As for well put together squads, if 4 men cant take one heavy down....something is wrong 0o...in which yeah, 4 people can easily do it working together, of course you will be able to take one down under those circumstances.