u mad bro?

Here's a hint, aim for the head and heavy's drop like a stone. Take it from a heavy, their fine just the way they are.

We are a slow moving turret, flank and kill.

But, most likely CCP will listen to people without any skill and nerf the heck out of anything that will kill a militia suiter.

They're easy kills because you're engaging a bunch of blueberries in militia crap at optimal range.

You can put anything in that setting and make it look easy.

Pub stomp much?

You where in a pub game with one opposing player at your level and the rest where newberries.

Way to go. (golf clap) Clap... clap...

Try it in a corp battle or against two squads of seasoned players and you'll be singing a different song.

Heavy and HMG are fine.

Uhm... who were they?

I saw one Heavy and a scout, and then a bunch of people in militia assault fits. And the Heavy wasn't even at half health when you started shooting at him.

And the Scout just sort of walked up to you.

They don't pubstomp and take it as a sign that they're weapon is OP.

I've seen guys in dropships go 30-0. Same with tanks.

And Mass drivers.

And Assault Rifles.

So if a guy goes 30-0 oR better with an AR then we should nerf them as well? Cause I run with guys that do that plus with an Ar all day every day. Including in corp matches.


Wait I see tanks go 30-o all day too and guess what they are militia fits.

Yeah.

I'm not telling you not to pubstomp, I'm telling you why your logic sucks.

Honesty is the best policy!!!!!! The HMG is a beast !!!!!!

LOWRATE, KUDOS for having the testes to say something. we all know it. Dont do something now and when those boys go Proto Gun and Suit, you wont stand a chance.

I think its RANGE. The range is a lil bit to long for the fatboys and the HMG. I also feel they are SUPPOSED to hose ppl at closer ranges. look at them, I dont wanna stand 40 meters close to those ugly fat serial killers. All they are gonna do is NOM NOM NOM and guess who is for dinner? YOU the SCOUT, YOU the ASSAULT guy, and YOU the LOGI. It could also be the turning speed. Fatboys spin awfully fast.

Thx Lowrate for putting it out there. Tried to have a conversation about it in game, but it got shot down, as to say the Heavy is ok, and I need a fix. loooool +1 from me

Huh.? So if the AR was nerfed why do so many more aR people go 30-0 ?

So AR people going 30-0 is ok cause it was nerfed?

Sure we do, but we don't go around making posts about it because we understand the imbalance of the scenario. Heavy T2 with HMG and a good amount of passives will pub stomp newbarries all day long. But, when facing other equal lvl toons/corps/squads, it all balances out.

Just another reason why CCP needs to make the battle maker work so it separates the newberries from others with more SP.

Post your score when you go up against some sqauds of PFBH, SI, SyN, STB or heck, even 843 and we'll see how ya do.

No We are using your logic to have a debate about the hmg using the same reasoning you gave about it being overpowered cause someone killed a lot of people. If we continue the same logic , and apply that to the AR then we would have to say they are overpowered as well.

If someone goes 54-0 with something is it overpowered too. Cause there are many players that have done that with AR

No We are using your logic to have a debate about the hmg using the same reasoning you gave about it being overpowered cause someone killed a lot of people. If we continue the same logic , and apply that to the AR then we would have to say they are overpowered as well.

If someone goes 54-0 with something is it overpowered too. Cause there are many players that have done that with AR

The perfect example of another brainless COD player beating the dead horse.

Honestly, your trying to use THAT video for proof on why the HMG is"overpowered"?
Pathetic.

First, let me point out that EVERY kill you received in the first 60 seconds of gameplay was due to a
Good flanking maneuver. I didn't see a single enemy even turn toward you. Seriously? A newberrie with a normal AR could've gotten those kills. Real "op."

Second, the kills you received where people were actually shooting at you were all within FIVE METERS. If you had strapped an AR to this heavy, you would've had the SAME effect!!! See this is the perfect example of how whiners dislike using that wonderful
Brain God gave them. Do you truly think killing someone within
10 metes while using a HMG makes the gun OP? (If I might add, he was in a group most of the time
To.)


No, I don't think you do. I think your just to lazy to take the time to figure out HOW to kill a heavy (yes, that sentence had 4 infinitives. Do not judge me.)



Get over it.

Your video and attempted 'body of proof' is an absolute joke. You could have gotten those kills just as easily, and actually a lot faster in most cases if you had been using an Assault Rifle. Maybe, just maybe, before you whine and complain and QQ on the forums about it, you could take the time to figure out how to counter it, and you might have an enlightened viewpoint.

That said, if you're actively going to campaign against the HMG, please stop. I have a feeling that a large amount of "HMG IS OVERPOWERED!!" threads, regardless of how credible, are going to kill the weapon.

Go back to Call of Duty if you can't handle class variation.

Did anyone else catch that? He said "he has an easy time killing heavies.". So your just whining for
The heck of it? Disappointing. Since you failed to
Refute any point in my argument, then by logic, my points are valid.

If you manage to make a video where you walk head on into 5 guys, and manage to kill them all singlehandedly, then we'll consider if the HMG is OP.


Until then, your wasting your breath with bad facts

You're simply wrong. You're mowing people down in your low SP heavy simply because the other team sucks, and not because it's overpowered against evenly skilled opponents.

What's the difference between a newly started heavy vs a newly started assault and then an experienced heavy vs an experienced assault?

If the low SP assaults wake up and play smart then they can easily take down the low SP heavy. If they keep engaging the low SP heavy in it's optimal range one at a time they're screwed, but again, how is that any different than a dedicated assault going up against a dedicated heavy (other than the fact that proto assault > proto heavy)?

I disagree about the HMG being over powered. Its a situational weapon, pug matches against inexperienced players create the situation not the weapon. its the same for tanks and any md or lazer or ar worth his salt. inexperienced players die a lot, get used to it.

If people would pay attention and look for tanks md lazers and miniguns it would not be a problem

Maybe they should take away militia ar's or give everyone militia pre built drop suits of every weapon? give them like 50 of each of every suit/weapon that way players will use the other weapons and learn counters.

At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly.

At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly.

Thing is, balance is nonexistant right now mainly cause so many noobs at the moment can make anything look overpowered. Assault Rifle showed up most on the kill feed, yet no one complains about them.

Once again do yourself a favor and start watching these http://www.youtube.com/user/betamax514?feature=watch I don't care if anyone else watches its not my channel, and it's not my videos, but it is my corps videos. If it helps you and prevents people like you from posting frivolous nerf requests in the future then they've done their job. I'm only posting this link here for you OP because you need it.

You don't need the proto heavy suit to tell it's useless against other proto suits. I'll just drop this link here.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48414

type 2 is good because armor does not passively regenerate lacking mods, but shields do, Having used the BPO millita heavy, once someone gets you low on health even if your shields come back you are basically neutered. So its basically good to solo in, heavy's with 650 armor can be better tankers with remote reps, but that takes away the solo game.

Not sure why type 2 should get a nerf, its just trading shield for armor, different play-style different preferences. If local reps were not so ridiculously underpowered to shield regen more people would solo armor tank.

Having played a heavy because I got interested by the video, I can say that it is pretty fun, I get more kills (sometimes) but over all, I get the same exp and isk from playing all milita gear logi combining WP for kills and reps, and revives.

A heavy is powerful with HMG, but it is not invincible, it fills a role that is easy to do, so it has its appeal.

You only posted video from one game where you didn't get so much as 20 kills against harsh newbies, I've gone at least 22-4 with just the enforcer assault set. I do know what I'm talking about as I have played for quite a few builds now. Do your homework son BetaMax is one of the first corps in this game. I don't need views or to impress other vets. I'm just trying to save you from your own ignorance because you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about. Ya need to stop acting so butthurt and quit calling for nerfs when no nerfs are needed. You need to learn how to play the game and I am simply trying to give you an opportunity to do that. So do yourself a favor and quit letting your pride do all the talking for you.

Calls skirmish "scrimage"

All I needed to hear to know you are completely full of ****.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE OMgee you guise, shotgun is so op

Thats not mispronunciation, thats clearly not knowing WTF you are talking about.