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iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:09:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:like i said, it is what it is. it is op for a new player to be able to come into the game and have this much power and dominance over other classes that have the same amount of sp invested in the build....we can debate all day on it. And Betamax, I have my gimp suit tight and it puts work in,and have no complaints about production, so thanks for the offer, but I hold my ground on it being op
I enjoy running type II heavy with the HMG, I love it, and I laugh when I mow people down due to there being little that can be done about it from the majority of players. As for well put together squads, if 4 men cant take one heavy down....something is wrong 0o...in which yeah, 4 people can easily do it working together, of course you will be able to take one down under those circumstances.
his quote says it all.. they laugh as they dominate |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:15:00 -
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Nickles Jester wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Nickles Jester wrote:At the end of the day all of the OP's arguments are simply made invalid by this alone "Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore" Which is what we should all do. The vets have all spoken out and correctly and eloquently stated their case. This is nothing more than someone who got lucky in one game filled with the worst/newest players this game has ever seen and is jabbering on about things he has no real experience with. Bottom line OP your green is showing, you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's ok it's understandable and forgivable. My advice give it more time and more testing and get some real in depth game experience before you decide to call foul and request nerfs. If you think something should be nerfed get a consensus first from experienced vets before ya make a thread calling for nerfs. It's ok tho as I said I know your new so it's forgivable. As I said before BetaMax will be releasing Tutorial videos for new player like yourself. I really hope you watch them, they can help you and your perspective greatly. one game? seriously? you have no clue whatsoever. You only posted video from one game where you didn't get so much as 20 kills against harsh newbies, I've gone at least 22-4 with just the enforcer assault set. I do know what I'm talking about as I have played for quite a few builds now. Do your homework son BetaMax is one of the first corps in this game. I don't need views or to impress other vets. I'm just trying to save you from your own ignorance because you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about. Ya need to stop acting so butthurt and quit calling for nerfs when no nerfs are needed. You need to learn how to play the game and I am simply trying to give you an opportunity to do that. So do yourself a favor and quit letting your pride do all the talking for you.
sad thing is you VET corps are picking on the noobs using the OP hmg and racking up kills so yall look cool with your 5 or more k/d ratio on the leader boards get that fuc outta here |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:17:00 -
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I'm new and not very good and I melee HMG heavies to death, your argument is invalid. |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:19:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I'm new and not very good and I melee HMG heavies to death, your argument is invalid.
new how new character account? gtfo melee yea from behimd when the heavy is distracted ..u aint trying that when he sees you.. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:28:00 -
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iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:I'm new and not very good and I melee HMG heavies to death, your argument is invalid. new how new character account? gtfo melee yea from behimd when the heavy is distracted ..u aint trying that when he sees you..
Never played EVE, downloaded DUST 514 at the start of the month.
Melee from behind/sides while the heavy is turning to shoot me, they're not very fast and if I spiral inwards on them and account for their backpedalling, I can pretty firmly attach myself to their back with a nova knife/shotgun/butt of my rifle.
Don't enter an intimate firefight with a tank, don't flip the bird at a sniper at a great distance, don't tickle a shotgunner and don't let an HMG heavy keep you in their sights for more than a second at their optimal range.
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Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
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Posted - 2013.02.13 06:22:00 -
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I agree completely I do not skill specifically anymore I just put a bit into every skill, I don't need much to kill a noob or run him over with a jeep. But after using every suit I always stick to the heavy machine gun for infantry and forge gun for anti vehicle why? Because I have a ridiculous amount of armor with out any real upgrades or training for modules and a **** load of damage with my heavy machine gun, overheat doesn't even effect me and the range on the heavy machine gun is great. If I was to put all my time into only heavy suit and the heavy machine gun I know I'd be untouchable. And for the players who put all their time into tanks the forge gun is op as well honestly I can fight back any tank with a standard forge gun and heavy suit its no big deal. OP OP |
EUCLONUS
O.R.B
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:38:00 -
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After watching that video here is my response.
It's a Heavy........What do you think will happen if you were to run in front of it?
It's supposed to be like this, it's a heavy. Going in front of it means death, BUT, if you think, maybe you can kill him
He's slow, has no equipment, but has a HMG, and lot of health, but he's SLOW. so maybe it would be wise to flank him or maybe, stick with your SQUAD! I encountered a lot of heavies, killed a lot, killed them a lot. Sticking with your team seems to be a good measure against them, and not being sitting ducks and just being like "Hey, look a teddy bear, HUG ME."
Sorry, but I just keep seeing a lot of nerfing posts, and it gets a little annoying because the things they are calling out to nerf have simple tactics to counter them, such as a Heavy for example, and a sniper, which has a multitude of counters. There is advantages and disadvantages to a Heavy
EXPLOIT THE DISADVANTAGES. |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.13 19:37:00 -
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I think that the heavies are not OP, everything else is underpowered. Realize, the main weakness of a heavy is that he can strike down whoever shows up near him, but he's too slow to pick and choose his fights. Right now it seems overpowered because that's pretty much how all the classes fight, they just do it better.
But once cloaking and better sensor tech is added, I expect this to change. Once we have invisible scouts running around the battlefield like vulture waiting to shotgun you in the back the moment you start you look weak or absent minded, I think the heavy's slow moment speed will become much more of a liability.
Don't nerf the heavy, buff the cloakers. Their natural enemies in a lot of games, and the lack of cloakers is why the heavies are ruling the roost at the moment. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:07:00 -
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I didn't bother to read this thread as every 'Heavy is OP' thread is identical.
Learn to counter a heavy properly. I used to run when I saw a heavy, but now I do not feel Im at a serious disadvantage. I almost always carry FLUX grenades, and even with the Exile AR its rare that I will shy away from a fat suit.
Kill their shield with a fux. Put as much distance as dmg% and accuracy will allow for. Exp[loit their slow aim by straffing. Use cover.
Hopefully these threads start to dissappear. Even though I never play as one, I'd hate to see the heavy get another nerf because people are cry babies. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:49:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:HMG is not OP but the heavy class needs to be tweaked and more balanced.
For starters they are way to fast, movement speed should be reduced.
There should be no sprint at all.
I'm... I'm not sure if you're being serious.
The standard Heavy can only sprint as fast as the standard Assault walks, so I don't see how that's fast at all. |
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