Laser still don't do anything significant vs vehicles. Their damage scale is infantry scale, albeit very high on LR optimal.
(viziam with 2x damamod)

I don't know where this rumor started nor why it is so persistent.

Laser still don't do anything significant vs vehicles. Their damage scale is infantry scale, albeit very high on LR optimal.
(viziam with 2x damamod)

I don't know where this rumor started nor why it is so persistent.

Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time, Lasers are being nerfed.

Hard.


Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes.


Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514.


Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam.

I play a heavy with a laser rifle. I do quite well but if someone gets close I'm screwed. I have a scabaler pistol for such an occasion but that's not much insurance.

The laser Only works from a fair distance, gives away exactly where I am and theres always a high chance while I'm standing still picking at targets that a sniper goes. "That's right fatty, stay still shooting.... bye bye."

I think it may need adjustments but not a hard nerf. Its very easy to counter.

anyone with reasonable aim or a KB+M and a laser rifle could outperform any weapon at medium range. even on my armor tanked assault suits i was getting cut in half in a matter of seconds, not possible to aim and shoot and out DPS a good laser rifle user.

at the very least something had to be done, but it seems like CCP may be cutting the balls off it completely, which we don't want either. I would be perfectly okay with a damage nerf, or a range nerf, or overheat nerf, but not all three at the same time.

Your not supposed to be able to deal with a laser at that range. Your bullet spread is to great from that far. Just get in close by circling around. You'll kill me.

considering i was using a tactical assault rifle with a complex damage modifier, yes, i should be able to kill someone from that range fairy effectively. if at any time you get stuck in an area with little cover and nowhere to run once you duck back, it's pretty much over..with other weapons i still have a fighting chance. maybe adding some sort of recoil would help balance things out.

what if it was a sniper and they had the ability to one shot one in less time. Would you have felt better if you only got them to half health before they blew you head off?

I tried this game out and kept getting sniped over and over by a guy w/ a 90,000 ISK laser standing on top of a structure. I had no way of killing him becase it outranged all my weaons except the piece of junk militia sniper. I hit him twice but he was a heavy and basically it would take 2+ headshots just to kill, which would be impossible considering his laser kills me in less than 2 seconds and the sniper fires slow as fyck and only holds 3 bullets in a magazine.. Lol.

i honestly think adding in some kind of recoil may be the best option here, if it's more difficult to line up the shot and hold it on your target, it has every right to do high damage.

I remember you and that was me. I was using the level one laser rifle. If you wanted to kill me why didn't you just communicate with your squad to sneak up on me and you just taking pot shots to draw my attention to you.

Tactics!

I know a lot of folks don't care for reality, but you do recognize the absurdity of a light beam inducing recoil, don't you?

That's kind of what makes the laser rifle a distinct weapon rather than just another skin on the AR.

No, it wasn't you. Lol are you really conceited enough to think that you are the only person who laser snipes? In the short time I played this game, I saw it quite often. And no, it wasn't level 1 laser. It tells you what gun you get killed by, I looked it up in the store, and it was the highest cost laser, like 80k-90k each.

Lets say for arguments sake your right about who it was. Frankly it doesn't matter but I do remember at one point killing you in the matter mentioned. If I was so 'conceited' I wouldn't tell you how you can kill me which brings me to the point you didn't address how you could deal with me.

How is this any differant then dealing with a tank or a sniper or a heavy with a HMG or a dropship?

It all comes down to tactics and working as a team. If you have something you can't deal with you turn to your team mates and talk to them about options.

Not throw a hissy fit or shrug/give up and rant on the forums.

If you have that kind of mentality no one will play with you for being a quitter.

does the laser rifle need a tweak? absolutely, but so does everything in a mmo at some point.

I don't think It needs a massive nerf however. I think it fills an interesting nich in the EvE universe and brings some of the racial flavor from the Amarr to the dust players.

Lol you "remember" killing me in the manner mentioned, yet I only played like 2 battles w/ this character and wasn't even fighting because I was just screwing around trying to figure out to drive those piece of shyt warthogs. The person that was laser sniping me was against my first character, which had a completely different name, and I deleted. Nice memory you have there buddy

But the only way to make a balanced game is to make everything like an AR, just look at CoD!

(asymmetric balance? what's that?)

because a recoil-less weapon that does high, steady damage from long range is a great idea in a FPS, right?

It is when the weapon is easily countered by a Sniper Rifle at even longer range than its "high damage" can be used, or by any other weapon if you simply do the same thing as you do against snipers and GET IN CLOSE where the damage is massively reduced.