Any scout suit with an AR will be insta-zapped by a Laser rifle before he gets close

Assault rifles with an AR usually die first against an LR since it's easy for him to get his weapon warmed up.

Any Heavy with an AR or HMG will be cooked alive inside their suit by an LR since it is hardest for them to get away.

see I can do that to, your argument is meaningless.

Bad news... the only nerf needed with Lasers isnt actually a nerf but a fix. The only thing wrong with them is the overheat mechanics that doesnt work properly. Over heat comes too late even at lvl 1.

Regarding damage. Only the basic LR needs a slight nerf to make the elm7 actually usefull.


Please CCP. Try and make slight adjustments and not hammer the whole thing. Or you ll never reach balance.

Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time, Lasers are being nerfed.

Hard.


Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes.


Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514.


Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam.

except that they already bitched and moaned about the ar's till they got nerfed hard

Nefd how?

How are they nerfed? Scopes? They're coming back. Recoil? We all knew it was coming, it's a actually a bug that took it out earlier. Please, tell me more. Still by far easiest weapon to get kills with is AR. Multi purpose, basically does everything.

Are you serious lol? You forget the damage got nerfed AND flattened. The TAR is useless now and so are the breach ARs.

Multipurpose except that lasers will smoke ARs long range. ARs only have a chance if they can get close enough.

The "easiest" weapon to get kills with?? You have to aim with the AR. You can miss with the MD and still get the kill. Laser users don't even come near the fights. They just stand on the outskirts and just melt everyone down in secs.

Are you serious lol? You forget the damage got nerfed AND flattened. The TAR is useless now and so are the breach ARs.

Multipurpose except that lasers will smoke ARs long range. ARs only have a chance if they can get close enough.

The "easiest" weapon to get kills with?? You have to aim with the AR. You can miss with the MD and still get the kill. Laser users don't even come near the fights. They just stand on the outskirts and just melt everyone down in secs.

Can someone answer this question:

Why does an overheating laser rifle deal more damage when an overheating HMG doesn't?

Isn't overheating a disadvantage of an inadequate cooling system? If anything, an overheating device becomes less efficient rather than more.


I'm wondering if two separate mechanisms (time on target) and overheating got conflated due to the first being broken. It makes sense that a laser would do more damage per unit time to a target over time, after all the heat would build up on the target with more being pumped in. What doesn't make sense is that the beam could be "cooked" firing in the air and only then be swept across a target for huge damage.

My take is that CCP just counted firing time rather than time on target by mistake.

speeding up the overheating will make them more powerful.

Tactics are OP. Nerf tactics.

Seriously, since this build started I've been killed by a laser maybe 5 times...that's it. You just have to use your brain a little. Want to cross over a wide open area and see an enemy laser beam? Don't do it, go some other way. Laser dude shooting at you? Sprint into cover, let your shields regen a little and get up in his face. If you die to a laser at close range, the laser itself was not responsible for your death. All the other guys shooting at you were, the laser just got lucky and did the final point of damage.

The laser can do quite high levels of damage, but only for extremely short periods, after which the rifle is overheating and needs a reload. It's also the only weapon that can kill the user simply by firing it. Lasers are a squad weapon, they absolutely require support if people have the brains needed to analyze their surroundings. A weapon that requires teamwork to use effectively, and is countered by longer range weapons and intelligent footwork is not OP.