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Mr Turtlez
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:56:00 -
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Most balanced gun in the game. Better nerf it. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:58:00 -
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I never complained about weapons but i know for a fact they better not mess with my mass driver |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
811
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:00:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:I never complained about weapons but i know for a fact they better not mess with my mass driver
I gaurantee that it's next. Heck, it's almost as easy to kill people with as the AR is... and everyone knows we can't have that. |
Gunmouse
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:05:00 -
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Funny how all these QQ'rs saying the laser is OP have 0 likes. It's all the shield tanking tryhards and the Heavy spray and pray noobs that want the nerf. |
Otto Golaso
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:09:00 -
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Kaserai Mandrag wrote:Agreed. Im sorry OP. This is what happens when you get COD players. They like brainless games
because zombies ate the one they had!?! |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:13:00 -
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Otto Golaso wrote:Kaserai Mandrag wrote:Agreed. Im sorry OP. This is what happens when you get COD players. They like brainless games because zombies ate the one they had!?! Wouldn't that mean they're zombies themselves? That would explain why they stand still and shoot. |
Otto Golaso
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:21:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Otto Golaso wrote:Kaserai Mandrag wrote:Agreed. Im sorry OP. This is what happens when you get COD players. They like brainless games because zombies ate the one they had!?! Wouldn't that mean they're zombies themselves? That would explain why they stand still and shoot.
I think I will start thinking of blueberries as zombies, now. it would splain a lot.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:31:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Deserved Nerf. Tbh, it needs total rebalance. A Proto AR does less than 10% more damage compared to a standard one. Vizam is 25%. Lasers are out of balance with the rest of the game. You can tell that from the way they strip tanks of shields. Yes it's designed to kill shields. But not when at 20% efficiency or whatever it drops to vs vehicles.
Oh and as for mass drivers? Drop the extra clip size which was added this build. Unnecessary.
extra clip size is good reduce splash SLIGHTLY
EDIT: loldust |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:And me > impswarm. No idea why you think you guys are anything like the imperfects. Half of you guys are just barely decent and the other half spams MD and lasers.
HTFU, MD SPAM Isn't skillful. Gee nobody told me when took out sica, lavs and ENTIRE SQUADS with my MD with SQUISHY LOGISUIT!!! Then i took a break from curb stombing fools, performed the 3R's dishing out reps and resupply like your favorite neighborhood drug dealer, then went back to stomping like it was a seamless uniform motion. It really is poetry in motion my gameplay.
Lulz you think the only measure of skill is gungame, sorry i play chess and for me its all about the tactical don't be mad IMPSwarm is full of Sun Tzu disciples and you just a grunt.
When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!! |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:37:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:And me > impswarm. No idea why you think you guys are anything like the imperfects. Half of you guys are just barely decent and the other half spams MD and lasers. HTFU, MD SPAM Isn't skillful. Gee nobody told me when took out sica, lavs and ENTIRE SQUADS with my MD with SQUISHY LOGISUIT!!! Then i took a break from curb stombing fools, performed the 3R's dishing out reps and resupply like your favorite neighborhood drug dealer, then went back to stomping like it was a seamless uniform motion. It really is poetry in motion my gameplay. Lulz you think the only measure of skill is gungame, sorry i play chess and for me its all about the tactical don't be mad IMPSwarm is full of Sun Tzu disciples and you just a grunt. Glad you posted because you're one of the few impswarms worth remembering. Try to get into the imperfects sometime soon, mmk? |
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
41
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:38:00 -
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I really hope they don't Nerf the LR and not because I use it, it's because I hate it!!!!! It's the only weapon other than a Duvolle that can kitten slap me when I'm in the middle of a HMG/Heavy murderthon. I hate it when I see the Green beam of death swing my way from some high up place my HMG can only dream of reaching and I just cannot stand the kitten thing!!! But it's what the game is all about, IMHO the laser fills a great niche and I have been through so many Nerfs that I am sick of it, Missles, HMG, grenades, heavy armour and scout speed far to many. The game is fairly well balanced right now and there doesn't appear to be anything such as a tweak, so let's just get on with it.
Rant over regards
Snag |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:[
Glad you posted because you're one of the few impswarms worth remembering. Try to get into the imperfects sometime soon, mmk?
Why would i want Imperfect tags. I ALREADY AM AN IMP. IMPSwarm is going viral soon baby, to a district near you.
But by all means dismiss and underestimate us we love reveling in our Bad New Bears reputation. Can't wait for news to spread im like a caged dog and my IMP masters are just slapping me around to turn me even more rabid and soon i will hear those glorious words
UNLEASH THE KRAKEN.
oh and thanks for the compliment.(no no must not be nice, bad imp bad imp)
When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!!
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mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:45:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time , Lasers are being nerfed. Hard. Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes. Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514. Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam.
Not sure why you're surprised. CCP doesn't understanding "tweaking".... they only know "HULK SMAAASHHH!!!!!"
TBH, lasers need a slightly faster overheat (given that they are UBER powerful once heated up)... but that is prob all that they needed. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:46:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:[
Glad you posted because you're one of the few impswarms worth remembering. Try to get into the imperfects sometime soon, mmk? Why would i want Imperfect tags. I ALREADY AM AN IMP. IMPSwarm is going viral soon baby, to a district near you. But by all means dismiss and underestimate us we love reveling in our Bad New Bears reputation. Can't wait for news to spread im like a caged dog and my IMP masters are just slapping me around to turn me even more rabid and soon i will hear those glorious words UNLEASH THE KRAKEN. oh and thanks for the compliment.(no no must not be nice, bad imp bad imp)
When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!! haha - good thing I already figured out how to take care of MD's. Turns out they don't like nades much.
Still figuring out the counter to lasers though Tac rifles blow :( |
Snagman 313
Carbon 7
41
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:50:00 -
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A good counter for LR dudes is a red lined sniper on comms, they laser acts like a reverse tracer. I can't remember who said it but a dude I met once said "So he's got more range and power? Well you'd better get a buddy with more range and power than he has"
Snag |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:51:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:A good counter for LR dudes is a red lined sniper on comms, they laser acts like a reverse tracer. I can't remember who said it but a dude I met once said "So he's got more range and power? Well you'd better get a buddy with more range and power than he has"
Snag Problem with this is snipers go down in a blink of an eye to lasers. They need to get some good good distance if they don't want to end up a pile of goo. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Tamuramu wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time , Lasers are being nerfed. Hard. Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes. Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514. Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam. Seens like someone's favorite weapon is getting nerfed. Sounds like someone doesn't know how to counter ****. I've never had a problem fighting LRs because I have brain cells yea unfortunately CCP is now taking the cater to noobs and morons approach.. F it they win. i just hope CCP can hurry up and get the rest of the nerfs done and over with and not string us out over years of nerfing the next FOTM weapon which will popup that someone cried about, i hate having to relearn a game every 2 months
can you fkn hurry up and nerf everything, CCP? or are you going to string us along a slow diet of nerfs like they do in BF3? |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:54:00 -
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Never mind. |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:55:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=53357&find=unread
this is the link to thread regarding ccps constant nerfing again please show your support so we can get something right happening over the new berries because there's one asking for an orbital as a kill streak in the request section |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:03:00 -
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I was fighting a heavy HMG with a LR over my lunch break today, and because I wasn't using the weapon to its full potential, we fought to a complete stalemate, even though I had an elevated, unflankable position. (Not that any of that match's extra derpy blueberries were going to be flanking him for me any time soon.)
Basically we would both pop out of cover and hammer each other until our shields were down and then retreat. I tried leaving the laser firing at his cover, but he could see it and obviously wasn't stupid enough to walk right into the beam. If I had been smart, I would have fired it up and off to the side until he showed his face and then swung it back down, hopefully for a second of max damage and victory.
Honestly, I think it's one of the most balanced weapons in the game. Powerful when used smartly, so-so when wielded by the thick. |
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:06:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time , Lasers are being nerfed. Hard. Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes. Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514. Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam. LEAVE MY MASS DRIVER ALONE!!!! " LASERS OP LOL.. (JUST KIDDING) it's coming bro sadly MD will be next. once they make the final pass on the last weapon that hasnt been nerfed, they will restart from the beginning again, another second "rebalancing" of weapons, since the first pass failed, they will begin a second pass of nerfs starting all the way back again at the AR, and will nerf from there, even tho they've all already been nerfed- theres always so non gaming guy in a suit somewhere in a board room saying ignoring the harder core gamers because there just some supposed niche` while bending over backwards to bring in a "new(b) audience" by trying to make games that appeal to people who never were gamers in the first place.
this has nothing to do at all with gaming, nerfing stuff is a corporate marketing plan, they think that by "listening" to the commuinty aka QQing noobs on their forums that they will sell more games/aurum because they "listen" to their community.
example: scrub cries on forums, scrub gets his nerf, scrub goes out and tells he's little noob buddies what a great company they are because they listened to him cry and he personally had an effect "designing" the game, his noobs that sucked at gaming in the first place all feel empowered despite they spend more time on the forums than in game so they go on a crusade to have it all nerfed, then the guy in a suit says at the CCP boardroom meeting- "look at all the new potential customers i just pulled by that one nerf"
/end rant |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:07:00 -
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FFS with the way the nerf bat is swinging, I'm going back to obscure modded PC FPSs where people don't QQ about BS and understand that not every gun needs to be equivalent to an AR. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:08:00 -
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what ever happened to
HARDEN THE F*CK UP |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:11:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Never mind. I regret not quoting you when you called the impswarms party fillers :)
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:15:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Never mind. I regret not quoting you when you called the impswarms party fillers :) Thought I was being a bit too harsh lol. Now I only feel pity. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:22:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Never mind. I regret not quoting you when you called the impswarms party fillers :) Thought I was being a bit too harsh lol. Now I only feel pity. lol they called me out for QQing bout them when I never even mentioned them. Guess my HMG caused some QQ in some so they brought out the lazerz and MD's and thought I was talkin' bout them. I don't even notice impswarm scrubs unless they're the only squad in game. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:23:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:I have not leveled anything past level one yet other than the AR because I figured this is what CCNerf would do. Damn shame to cuz I liked the laser.
Yeah, the nerf usually seems very heavy handed. Instead of changing one thing about the way a weapon works they will change three things.
It is almost as if someone were to say, "The music is a little loud."
The dial is turned all the way down. "Better?"
Next build the dial may be turned up slightly. It is that initial blow that sometimes makes you feel like they are hammering the balance into place with a pile driver rather than dialing in the adjustments.
I still feel a lot of things that were interesting and challenging have been toned down to the point of becoming somewhat insipid. Nerf often equates to making something closer to useless instead of just slightly less powerful. As if the cry for nerf! were being taken literally. Sometimes it seems like DUST is trying too hard to please everyone.
Sometimes it seems like there is a secret plan and things are on the horizon that will change everything.
Sometimes it seems like the secret plan is "Ha secret plan for DUST 514? Some grand idea? A really refined and clear vision of what this game will be? Heck, we have no clue! What do you guys think we should do?" |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:35:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Never mind. I regret not quoting you when you called the impswarms party fillers :) Thought I was being a bit too harsh lol. Now I only feel pity. lol they called me out for QQing bout them when I never even mentioned them. Guess my HMG caused some QQ in some so they brought out the lazerz and MD's and thought I was talkin' bout them. I don't even notice impswarm scrubs unless they're the only squad in game. Bro, you're way out of line. Chill out :P Damn clones and starting drama with scrubs. :) |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
233
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:55:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Thanks to all the whining and whimpering from people who don't know a thing about optimum range or heat up time , Lasers are being nerfed. Hard. Sources from IRC say there's a range, damage, AND clip size nerf, along with maybe overheat changes. Once again, thank you guys for the QQ, there's another weapon out. Mass Drivers are next. Then HMG. Then Scramblers (oh wait), then what else? Honestly, let's just make it AR 514. Also, just to make it clear, I do not use Lasers often, in fact I haven't even spec ed into them since reset, before the reset I did carry a Viziam. LEAVE MY MASS DRIVER ALONE!!!! " LASERS OP LOL.. (JUST KIDDING) it's coming bro sadly MD will be next. once they make the final pass on the last weapon that hasnt been nerfed, they will restart from the beginning again, another second "rebalancing" of weapons, since the first pass failed, they will begin a second pass of nerfs starting all the way back again at the AR, and will nerf from there, even tho they've all already been nerfed- theres always so non gaming guy in a suit somewhere in a board room saying ignoring the harder core gamers because there just some supposed niche` while bending over backwards to bring in a "new(b) audience" by trying to make games that appeal to people who never were gamers in the first place. this has nothing to do at all with gaming, nerfing stuff is a corporate marketing plan, they think that by "listening" to the commuinty aka QQing noobs on their forums that they will sell more games/aurum because they "listen" to their community. example: scrub cries on forums, scrub gets his nerf, scrub goes out and tells he's little noob buddies what a great company they are because they listened to him cry and he personally had an effect "designing" the game, his noobs that sucked at gaming in the first place all feel empowered despite they spend more time on the forums than in game so they go on a crusade to have it all nerfed, then the guy in a suit says at the CCP boardroom meeting- "look at all the new potential customers i just pulled by that one nerf" /end rant
LOL, send me an in game email and ill let you in on a little joke.
BTW this post, 100% accurate. Been there and seen this before in every MMO made. +1 to you sir |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:02:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:. Lasers are out of balance with the rest of the game. You can tell that from the way they strip tanks of shields. Yes it's designed to kill shields. But not when at 20% efficiency or whatever it drops to vs vehicles.
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Laser still don't do anything significant vs vehicles. Their damage scale is infantry scale, albeit very high on LR optimal. (viziam with 2x damamod)
I don't know where this rumor started nor why it is so persistent. |
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