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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:55:00 -
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yes, lasers are so OP I was able to accurately keep two absolute newberries from getting barbecued with two seconds of "Do this when lasers are in play" over comms.
Newberries killed laser. I LOL'd.
lasers are OP my ass. Tweaks maybe, nerf, NO!
They are useless at point blank and now they're gonna be generic weapon with a different graphic #3.
Thanks for that. |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:10:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:King Kobrah wrote:ANY weapon is countered by a sniper rifle at long range...that's how it should be. saying "LOL JUST GIT CLOSE" doesn't make it any less of an overpowered weapon. it is by far the strongest weapon at mid range unless you're some kind of savant with the mass driver or forge gun. In the long ends of mid-range, the Laser Rifle is MEANT to dominate. Just like the Sniper Rifle dominates at extreme range, and just like the Shotgun and HMG dominate in CQC. If you're in the closer end of mid-range, AR fire should out-DPS the LR, and you only need to be decent, not amazing, with your Mass Driver. SMGs can damage race LRs in decently close range - but outside of their preferred CQC range. i've taken down both HMGs and shotguns at close range with a tactical assault rifle, but if i go up against someone even half decent with a LR anywhere close to mid range, it's already over. it dominates it's range TOO HARD and makes it almost impossible for any other weapon to compete. regardless if it's garbage up close, it's still way too OP at medium range compared to all other weapons at their respective ranges.
midrange is the only range where it's worth anything whatsoever. |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:18:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: in my experience it's pretty effective into the longer ranges as well. regardless, it dominates mid range too hard, other weapons should at least have something of a chance in an open firefight.
Me vs laser = coin toss.
You haven't had fun until that fatsuit you almost killed sneaks up behind you (because you weren't paying attention to the twinkie-eating fat kid that always shows on radar) and ventilates you with an HMG, or more obnoxiously, a forge gun from five feet away. |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:24:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:King Kobrah wrote: in my experience it's pretty effective into the longer ranges as well. regardless, it dominates mid range too hard, other weapons should at least have something of a chance in an open firefight.
Me vs laser = coin toss. You haven't had fun until that fatsuit you almost killed sneaks up behind you (because you weren't paying attention to the twinkie-eating fat kid that always shows on radar) and ventilates you with an HMG, or more obnoxiously, a forge gun from five feet away. maybe i'm just really unlucky running into super high skilled LR users? i don't even remember them being much of an issue in the closed beta. still seems like they do a disproportionate amount of damage at their range compared to all other weapons.
you respond to lasers by getting behind cover, and maneuvering to get close. Inside 20 meters a laser's damage is the rough equivalent of a five year old attacking you with a damp sock.
unless you're a scout, because your defenses are pathetic. |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:33:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: it's much more difficult to get close to someone who knows you're already there. if there's a good bit of open space between the both of you, there's pretty much 0 chance you're killing that LR, unless you plan on going around the entire map, in which case you'll probably get blown up or shot up with something else, or that LR is long gone. i'm sure this is all easily accounted for with a cohesive team and cover fire, but i've been rolling solo the entire time.
this is your first mistake. Seriously. get into a squad and stick together.
Solo players are dogmeat against anything resembling a coordinated counterattack.
Lasers can only hit one person at a time. Even an AR can hit multiple people spooning together. Think about it. |
Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:36:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: Yeah, but all it takes is that couple of seconds to cut someone in half. LRs kill me faster at long range than HMGs do at close range, it's just too much IMO, not to mention how they can rip the shields off vehicles.
Lasers are EM/Thermal weapons. In the CCP paradigm EM/thermal **** shields but resist kinetic and explosive.
Shields resist explosive well, so mass drivers as explosive weapons for our example, lose a percentage of damage off the top to shields but tear armor apart like it's made of paper mache
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:57:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: What i'm trying to say is no weapon has a fighting chance against a LR at it's ideal range. every other weapon, at it's ideal range (except snipers for obvious reasons) can still potentially lose in a firefight. the LR is imbalanced in that aspect. even if i had dropped to a knee and peppered him with headshots robo-cop style, with 100% accuracy, i still doubt my chances of survival against a LR.
you are incorrect, and bluntly most successful Laser rifle users have been deploying them for at least three months so they know exactly how to squeeze every ounce of efficiency out of them. |
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