personally, I see no issue with #2 or #5, but I support #5.

I cannot see why people would have an issue with #5. A person is still being fairly rewarded for their participation in a match. If they earn 2k WP's, they get 2k SP to match - more power to them. Most will not even earn the 1k SP cap in #2, so why is #5 bad?



Before you say grinders, what is to stop the grinder from grinding 1k SP every match and getting ahead that way, vs not having the soft cap and grinding the same way. Even a casual player could grind all day if they wanted. I honestly do not see what the big deal would be. What is the difference in you as a casual earning, on average, 600 SP per match vs a grinder earning 600 SP per match??? And if you think these "grinders" always earn 1k+ per match, you my friend are delusional.

Even if it is capped at 1k, if you only earn 600 WP on average (which = 600 SP after cap), they are going to get ahead anyways. I use a booster, so if you have not been using one, I have 2x the SP you do already.

And honestly, as a Logi, it's already hard enough for me to get WP's considering the caps in place, so if I can manage 1500 WP's in a game, I would like to be rewarded for it as that means I put in A LOT of effort to get there. And if a single person is getting 3-4k WP's in a match...... shame on the other team. I don't recall ever seeing someone with that many WP's (aside from the previous farming issue); even in a redline situation. And don't say "they were in a tank / Dropship and..." Get your squad / team together and load some AV fits.

And tbh, once you reach ~3 mil SP, you should be specialized enough where you would be on an even playing field; even with the grindiest of grinders. The only difference would be options available. They may be able to use a tank and a heavy, maybe you can only use a heavy... again, they just have more options. You cannot go beyond LVL 5 on a skill.

I believe the point there was that the average casual gamer WON'T grind for SP that much. That's sort of what defines a casual gamer, not playing the game nonstop. Sure, a casual may have time to grind for SP once in a while, but the gap between casuals and "grinders" grows wider much more quickly with option 5 than with option 2.

Look at it like this. Hypothetically say that a casual gamer were to play 3 games a day after hitting the cap, whereas a grinder plays 7:

C=casual, G=Grinder, SC=Soft Cap

SCbattle 1:

C wp = 2000
G wp = 1600

SCbattle 2:

C wp = 1200
G wp = 1000

SCbattle 3:

C wp = 1800
G wp = 1400

SCbattle 4:

G wp = 1300

SCbattle 5:

G wp = 1600

SCbattle 6:

G wp = 1300

SCbattle 7:

G wp = 1900

total wp for the casual player = 3000
total wp for the grinder = 7000
SP gap = 4000

in this we see that the grinder is rewarded for his efforts, still gaining a further SP advantage over the casual player.

If there were no cap, it would be:

Casual Player = 5300
Grinder = 10400
SP gap = 5100

in this we hypothetical see that the gap between where the casual gamer is and where the grinder is widens quickly in only a few games difference. And this is in NO way indicitive of how many more matches grinders play than casuals, grinders play FAR more games than this hypothetical would suggest.

In short, if there is no soft cap the grinders are going to be even more ahead of the casuals than they would be with a soft cap of 1000. Having a soft cap of 1000 is the safest middle ground to settle on since it serves both sides both a service and a disservice.

Yep this is why causuals can PAY TO WIN, erm I mean gain SP Bonuses :)

Read this

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=486685#post486685

Vote #5, if you vote #2 it would just promote SP idling, 1000SP per game means people will most likely idle for SP. If we bring in the unlimited soft cap it means idlers wont get anything because they'd have 0 WP.

Dear players,

Continuing our philosophy of developing...

The increased soft cap would entail rewarding one skill point for each warpoint after the normal daily or weekly cap has been hit, up to the increased soft cap (currently 50 SP, we will raise it to 1000 SP per match). This is to provide an incentive towards playing well even after the cap has been reached and make the play experience after hitting the cap better. We are also considering another alternative, which is to *not* have a cap (of 1k) on the soft cap, so, after weekly cap is hit, you still get 1 SP per WP at end of match. We would like to hear which of these you like better as well (cap on the soft cap vs no cap on soft cap).

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Thank you for all your feedback so far, and we are looking forward to your votes.