Yeah baby yeah! Get fried much?

- "Its so hard too use cause you need to keep the beam on your target."

BS!

When that baby heats up you merely need to glance a target and they're down.

And with an insane range, 100% accuracy and no recoil at all, and not least a proper sight, they are just so easy to use. Its like a modded controller fireing a tac AR from previous build. I could even fire 92 out of 100 "bullets" before it over heated. Whats that about?

-"They should be this insanely OP cause they're only useful at range." The last part might be true, but there are such things as SMGs, Scramblers and not least EZ-mode nades that should be enough for those face to face encounters. If you're stuck in the open fireing at an AR wielder at medium range then you're obviously doing it wrong.

I am amazed at how effective it was with only one level of skill and with only level 3 of weaponry. I used 2 +5% damage mods, I can only imagine what would happen with a proto suit, with a proto laser and tripple +10 mods....

If you camp a pipe and go 22-0, don't delude yourself, anyone half decent can do it.

I use 60 bullet ARs exclusively on my main account and do a pretty decent job with them. That I do cause I'm awsome, obviously, and because I put nearly all my skills into sharpshooter, recoil dampening, reload speed and damage buffs. If I were to use the same amount of skillpoints on my AR as I did with this laser, I wouldn't be competitive at a.

Yeah baby yeah! Get fried much?

- "Its so hard too use cause you need to keep the beam on your target."

And with an insane range, 100% accuracy and no recoil at all, and not least a proper sight, they are just so easy to use. Its like a modded controller fireing a tac AR from previous build. I could even fire 92 out of 100 "bullets" before it over heated. Whats that about?

dude the reason we laser rifle users get so many kills is ppl are to ignorant to how they work and run full speed to us at optimal. No tactics, they deserve to die.

and what happens when your face to face with a shotgun or AR at close range? Laser deal 50% damage at 30m. 20% at 15m. Are ou kidding me? Overpowered? you have to be kidding me, try playing in a corp match. instead of people who stand still for you to kill them.

Not to mention lasers don't go up in damage. So as dropsuits start to fight with higher hp, lasers will not gain a damage boost. It's role becomes weaker as heavies gain more and more armor over shields, which the weapon counters. It deals 125% damage to shields. 75% to armor. I think if anything they could bring it's damage to armor down to 50%. But it should always tear a shield to pieces. Shield tanks run in fear. Unless you have a shotgun, then your dead.

and what happens when your face to face with a shotgun or AR at close range? Laser deal 50% damage at 30m. 20% at 15m. Are ou kidding me? Overpowered? you have to be kidding me, try playing in a corp match. instead of people who stand still for you to kill them.

Not to mention lasers don't go up in damage. So as dropsuits start to fight with higher hp, lasers will not gain a damage boost. It's role becomes weaker as heavies gain more and more armor over shields, which the weapon counters. It deals 125% damage to shields. 75% to armor. I think if anything they could bring it's damage to armor down to 50%. But it should always tear a shield to pieces. Shield tanks run in fear. Unless you have a shotgun, then your dead.

Lasers need to overheat more quickly. The heat mechanic isn't a limitation at all.

You switch to a smg or pistol at close range problem solved. All weapons have optimal range and fall off range so thats not an excuse. Anyone who is being honest will tell you lasers are broken and as a laser fanboi I can say at much. I love them but they are broken

I'm thinking you just don't really like em and as what has happend to most of this game, you guys ***** and moan until the nerf hammer drops, then it becomes useless because you don't see a point having something like that in a fps, look at the missile turrets ffs, might as well be removed. look at the AR diffrences in tiers, oh wait! there isn't one. You know how that happend? ppl like you, leave it alone, tweak the visim some if you want.

You are speaking to 2 totally different things here. First lasers are broken and there isn't any reason to rehash that.

The other point is that when we say stuff is broken we never hear about it till ccp says "they fixed it" in patch notes. They would never really dicuss it with us or ask us for solutions or throw stuff at us about idea to fix it. Nope they just hammer it as they see fit. Which is their problem and sadly, not a damn thing we can do about it. Trust me about every thing they have nerfed need to be tweeked but not the the extreme they do things.

Summary: laser is broken and CCP will probably nerf it to make it worthless

This damage isn't the really the main issue, it's the fact you can consistently fire through almost your entire ammo supply without any worries.

Summary: laser is broken and CCP will probably nerf it to make it worthless

Yeah baby yeah! Get fried much?

- "Its so hard too use cause you need to keep the beam on your target."

BS!

When that baby heats up you merely need to glance a target and they're down.

And with an insane range, 100% accuracy and no recoil at all, and not least a proper sight, they are just so easy to use. Its like a modded controller fireing a tac AR from previous build. I could even fire 92 out of 100 "bullets" before it over heated. Whats that about?

-"They should be this insanely OP cause they're only useful at range." The last part might be true, but there are such things as SMGs, Scramblers and not least EZ-mode nades that should be enough for those face to face encounters. If you're stuck in the open fireing at an AR wielder at medium range then you're obviously doing it wrong.

I am amazed at how effective it was with only one level of skill and with only level 3 of weaponry. I used 2 +5% damage mods, I can only imagine what would happen with a proto suit, with a proto laser and tripple +10 mods....

If you camp a pipe and go 22-0, don't delude yourself, anyone half decent can do it.

I use 60 bullet ARs exclusively on my main account and do a pretty decent job with them. That I do cause I'm awsome, obviously, and because I put nearly all my skills into sharpshooter, recoil dampening, reload speed and damage buffs. If I were to use the same amount of skillpoints on my AR as I did with this laser, I wouldn't be competitive at a.

The same as the TAC AR? Are you stupid? The TAC AR had more range, better rate of fire then normal AR's and it got abused by modded controller users. Now shut up or im going to post every day about grenades until they get nerfed. Cause thats the only thing that you are good at. Oh and you was sitting on the pipes to keep optimal range how about you get up close and then shot at somebody.

No further qeustions needed. You dont get up close with a Laser cause its crap in that situation. Thats the balance factor. No changes needed. And love from the impotents? I dont give a damn about it. When you post something dumb then i wont hold back only cause you are in the same corp as i. And a grenade nerf? Right how about this:
blast radius: 1m
damage: 100HP
fuse timer 10 secs
that should get them on par with missiles and with that the balance of n00b weapons is again in the right order.

Good, I've been asking for a nade nerf since the start of this build. I've written two threads and posted in several others.

And really? The only thing I'm good at? I get more love from the fu..ing Imperfects than I get from you, despite performing among the top 10 in SI. A little respect please.

You think that camping a pipe with an OP laser makes you god at it? LOL.

Edit: And why would I ever go up close with a laser?

Welcome to the club KingBabar.

I don't use the LR myself, but in my opinion it's pretty obvious that something needs to be changed about it. The problem with the LR is that they instantly kill any non-heavy, and to a certain degree heavies as well, once they're heated up.

A solution could be to further limit damage dealt to armor, making them almost only a counter to shields. The problem with this is that the LR then becomes a pure support weapon, since you need someone else to finish people off when you've killed their shield.

Another solution is to (if CCP wants to keep them doing more damage the longer you have been firing) raise the initial damage it does slightly, while lowering the max damage quite a lot, so that the gap between the initial damage and max damage is lessened.

Another problem currently is that the standard LR overheats with 20 shots left (right?) without any skills whatsoever. In my opinion that could be raised to 40 or 50 shots instead. In comparison the standard HMG with HMG operation 1 overheats after using a little more than half the clip (I think).

How on earth is darks trolling a general consensus for SI? Stop this bull now and grow up the both of you.
Or just get a room and clear the sexual tension, your both great players and shock horror have a different opinion on lasers. Big deal talk about it like adults the both of you.

Personally I donGÇÖt mind the lower tier ones as they are . Maybe the vizams a little bit too scary but either way I think all lasers should take more cpu / pg to prevent them from allowing the user to also be a CQB ninja with a proto pistol or smg.
My fix is probably horrible but hey itGÇÖs an idea and from bad ones can come good ones.

But but, he started it....