They aren't realistic or gritty. They are very, very poor.

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

Read the damn item description. Its a blaster; a weapon that shoots plasma contained into bullet shaped by an electromagnetic field.
The assault rifle doesn't sound like a blaster, it sounds boring. I would like for it to sound more like the small blaster turrets.

It could be called a Hedgehog Pineapple 2000 VT.

They still sound like utter, utter crap.

That goes for every single weapon in the game.

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

Who cares spaz? The point is, it sounds like a washboard. It's crap.

Who cares spaz? The point is, it sounds like a washboard. It's crap.

And so more people fall for the troll thread and feed the obvious troll. Obvi troll Obvi full. Personally I think the Dust sound guy has done a great job, and I'm sure he is better at his job than the OP is at theirs, if they even have a job that is. If you have ideas about what it should sound like, please post some links of something. Then that would be constructive. Just saying the person is bad at their job doesn't do any good for anybody even less so than you. You say some people should grow up, when your the one throwing a tantrum like a child over some sound files, and trolling the forums. You're either a severely immature child or a mentally handicapped adult. Either way your feedback needs more construction and far less trolling/crying.

IMO
Laser rifle's ominous hum is awesome.

They aren't realistic or gritty. They are very, very poor.

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

And so more people fall for the troll thread and feed the obvious troll. Obvi troll Obvi full. Personally I think the Dust sound guy has done a great job, and I'm sure he is better at his job than the OP is at theirs, if they even have a job that is. If you have ideas about what it should sound like, please post some links of something. Then that would be constructive. Just saying the person is bad at their job doesn't do any good for anybody even less so than you. You say some people should grow up, when your the one throwing a tantrum like a child over some sound files, and trolling the forums. You're either a severely immature child or a mentally handicapped adult. Either way your feedback needs more construction and far less trolling/crying.

Assault rifle that runs on plasma/energy
Tell me, when's the last time you shot a plasma weapon to know how it's supposed to sound?

At least show us a link to what you want it to sound like instead of just complaining.

Just look up ANY modern FPS on Youtube. They all have superior sound design to Dust.

As soon as I mention as specific title the sensitive forum tards will start with the "OMG FANBOY" routine.

Laser rifles I have not used yet.

I think the SMG is ok but a little too weedy.

I guess if I had to name a title that is closest in look and ideology to Dust, it would be the Halo series. It has plasma weapons but the sound design is quite powerful and adds to the gun-play experience.

I'm sorry but when did I need to qualify as an expert on plasma energy and theoretical weapons to post an opinion on *GAME SOUND DESIGN*?

Never, that's when.

Because you need to provide a BASIS to support your 'sounds are unrealistic' claim, that's why.

'They aren't realistic or gritty. They are very, very poor.'

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

One of your quotes I believe?

...and what was that post in relation to?

Where in the OP do I bring up realism?

'They aren't realistic or gritty. They are very, very poor.'

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

One of your quotes I believe?

So what is your basis to the unrealistic claim?
I'm sure you could do a much better job than GAME DEVELOPERS right? RIIIIIIIGHT?

You said you didn't say anything about realism, yet in my previous quote you clearly did. So, mr expert game sound designer, what's a realistic sound for plasma weapons? Don't forget to use your past experience with plasma weapons as a basis, oh....and halo too.

Jesus christ. It's like trying educate pork.

Are you able to separate your love of the game from it's current state for 5 minutes? Are you able to comprehend that you are a beta tester and that you are here to critique various aspects of the game to help make it better? How in the name of all that is good in the world are you unable to see that the game would benefit from better sound design? Is it really that hard to understand? If it is, then I just don't know what to say to help you.

'They aren't realistic or gritty. They are very, very poor.'

"Assault Rifle" not "Assault Blaster".

One of your quotes I believe?

Good job with reading comprehension there or perhaps you're just trying to twist his words.

So what is your basis to the unrealistic claim?
I'm sure you could do a much better job than GAME DEVELOPERS right? RIIIIIIIGHT?

Yes, because I need to be able to make a film to tell when a film is good or bad, paint a Mona Lisa to critique art or play an instrument to tell that Skrillex is horrendous.

Constructive criticism yes, not rip the damn thing apart!!
Yes I'm aware I'm a beta tester, I've been testing it since december 2011,I'm fully aware of what we are here to do, but coming out with crap like 'hire a new sound designer' is not constructive criticism, it's rude and damn obnoxious. Especially when you have no reasoning behind your OP.
Give an example of what YOU deem acceptable for plasma weapons to sound like and then maybe your argument will have some foundation.

The point is that the sounds in this game sound about one step above 8 bit MIDI. if I wanted the sound like that I would play snes. It's like the sound is missing multiple channels worth of effect. I don't need to be a sound engineer to recognize when a sound is plain and unlayered. I have a feeling some of these fanboys play on SD tvs and still play 8track tapes.

The difference can also find metaphor between your laptop stock speakers and a Bose system. The punch of the sounds just isn't there.

I don't care if they sound modern or realistic , although those sounds come to mind as good sounds bc they are very real and sound amazing. It's the "punch" a sound can deliver and dust simply doesn't have that yet. It all sounds like 1hp , battery operated, junk. No feeling of power

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

I hope that the shotgun will be among the sound effects you're modifying?

My only reason for not using such a badass thing as a plasma-burst shotgun is that the damn thing sounds like a badly-oiled wrought iron gate.

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

Yoi guys should get better speakers or headsets

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

Fa-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch Ka ssss flooooop blip ka chonk Fa-ch-ch-ch

what am i?

Wait wait wait i know this one..................is it some f***er on comms eating pork rinds? No no no wait...............it's the sound of my balls flapping on a noobs chin when t-bagged, no no wait bear with me...............it's an assault rifle!!! Ha I knew I'd get it eventually

sorry we would of taken "Ice maker" or "Automatic Sniper nanite injector"

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

Didn't happen, guessing there was a delay.

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

Hi,
CCP Earworm, sound programmer for Dust, here.

Later this week we're content streaming a lot of new sounds, affecting everything from the music to the explosions to the firing sounds of many different weapons. These changes are a big step to finishing the sound and setting the mood we want.

The LAR is one sound that we've constantly iterated on since it's the bread and butter of the dust battlefield. We've gone through a ton of versions to find the right fit for the LAR, and the new version coming in this week (along with all the sweeping changes in overall sound) takes into account what you guys have been talking about here.

Thanks for all the comments!

I absolutely love how everyone had to ween this guy in how to make a productive thread. For some reason this forumtard couldn't come up with improvements for the life of him, just complaints. xDD

Yes, when you write a post about something that is off, you are supposed to suggest improvements. That is how things work here. If you give no input on how to improve the issue you don't like, it will 99 times out of 100 stay the same. When missiles were facepounding everyone, we all came up with MANY ideas to fix them. CCP overdid it by using several ideas together, but it still got fixed. Sort of.

Point is, if you contribute nothing you get nothing in return. And hurling whiny complaints doesn't count as contributing.

As for the topic at hand, the sounds are fine, could use some fine tuning but are otherwise unimportant and good enough for now considering the multitude of other game issues that actually make it hard to play the game (i.e. lag outs, disconnects, not getting into matches, etc)

WRONG. You'll notice we got a direct response for the developer noting the all the sounds are getting a drastic overhaul. Just bc you type 8 paragraphs doesn't make you less wrong FYI . We clearly described the problems with the sounds from an operations perspective and not from the engineers perspective. And rightly so, we don't get payed and we are not professional sound designers. The sounds were described and critiques were given. We can't onomatopoeia this crap any more than we already did.

Get your fanboy head outta get rear and actually read that the developers know sound is an issue and is being fixed

You utter, utter cretin. Pull your, swollen, dumb head out of your anus and get real.

It's unbelievable that a supposed grown, mature adult can be so sycophantic and emotionally connected to a video game.

I hope CCP are ignoring these sycophantic mutants who are happy to see the game collapse under it's own ambition. The real passionate fans are here pushing for changes that will elevate this to the best status it can possibly be at.

You are obviously very easily amused.

Ahem. Please note that the Dev never commented until the rest of the community steered the thread onto a proper course. Also please note that the community were the ones who got the OP started on actually discussing improvements. The original post in this thread was nothing but complaints without an iota of constructive input. That is all


First you say you can't believe people can be so connected to a game, then you claim to be more passionate about it than I. Very nice.

Your original post had nothing to do with improving the game, just whining about how it's being done wrong. Be glad that there are people around who steered this thread straight, else it would have been locked long ago for lack of productive content. I only said what I did because I found it hilarious how long the community had to go over it with you to get you to give up a semi-constructive answer.

Anyway, as for my view of how there are other more important things to deal with right now, I don't see how anyone can disagree that getting server stability is more important than the sound my gun is making. But to each his own.

Got a paper clip?

Don't make **** up either. I never said "I am more passionate than you". Use your noodle and read the words that are on the screen.

Don't talk bollocks about "steering the thread" either. Most of the posts that are FOR new sounds have the most likes.

Oh ok I see now, you and the op are doing this thing.

You said, as is quoted above: "The real passionate fans are here pushing for changes that will elevate this to the best status it can possibly be at. " So, I coul be mistaken here. You are either considering yourself a more passionate fan than I, thereby saying your points are more valid, or you are saying that the more passionate fans opinions are... better than me? Have better opinions than me? Help me out here, because either way, you are propping up people as being better than me because they are more passionate about this game RIGHT AFTER you said that you can't believe anyone could be so emotionally attached to a game. Just a little confused there.

Also, I never said that changing the audio wasn't a popular choice, I'm saying that you had no constructive posts until they coaxed it out of you. If they hadn't been there trying to get an actual constructive answer out of you, the thread would have gone nowhere. Thus, they steered it. Not saying one side of the debate was controlling it more than another, just that the community saved the thread from being nothing but an unconstructive series of complaints.

Stole this from my bullet list.

Sound

• Friendly LAVs can be heard much further way than the silent and deadly hostile LAVs.
• Full auto weapons continue to produce sound after their operators are killed.
• Full auto weapon noises generated by downed player that persist though death are extremely loud.
• RDV exit noise is too similar to the entry noise.
• Sniper Railgun sound may sound a bit cooler if the high end of the 'bark' was delayed based on distance of hit object.
• Mass Driver doesn't have the hollow bang tube sound or the high brass sound that most typical grenade launchers have when hammering the charge. The 'thoump' can remain for the shell exiting.
• Missiles and Rockets still don't sound like such missing the roar of the engines igniting, needs to sound more like the swarm launcher.
• More battle music please.
• Separate victory and defeated music.
• Some tunes for hanging out in the mercenary quaters.
• Some noises ignore the sound bar setting.
• Climbing ladders sound like walking still instead of having a new noise set.
• At apparent notice there only seems to be two walked on materials, dirt and metal, needs to expand to sand, soft dirt, hard dirt, concrete, metal and more.
• War room has several spots where noises and announcements are louder and other places mere feet away where its quieter.
• Plasma Shotgun missing hit effect noise, off tone shooting noise for plasma weapon (sounds like a spring loaded cannon instead)
• HMG has underwhelming hit effect on object noise.
• Plasma Rifle has underwhelming hit and firing effect noise, closer but not there yet.
• Sniper Rifle has underwhelming travel effect noise and non shooter noise does not match the shooter's noise
• Sometimes Athena lags on her accouterments during combat.

My hope is the update fires majority of this list.

I'm assuming the audio update hasn't happened yet.

At the very least they need to hire a new QA department...

Seriously though, how did a system as buggy as the new one get through any testing at all?

I have to agree the new bugs introduced or reintroduced was... well expected and a big downer for happening. However good job on live streaming an update this large with the new noises and slight change in handeling overall.

Ever recorded your own voice and listened to it? Sounds nothing like you right? That's because you are closer to the sorce than people listening to you speak, you sound different to other people because they are listening from a different perspective.
Same thing applies to the weapon sounds.

No.

You hear your own voice differently because you have sound conduction through your head which alters it from pure air conduction for everyone else. It has nothing to do with distance.

Stole this from my bullet list.

• Sometimes Athena lags on her accouterments during combat.

My hope is the update fires majority of this list.

Skirmish sounds amazing!!! The explosions of the mcc missels add an awesome feel to the war one. Nice bass

The sounds aren't supposed to be "beefy", they are supposed to be realistic and gritty. They are blasters, not AK-47s and 12-Gauges.

They should sound like projectile, as they are coming out with hybrid weapons soon. Hybrid weapons are blasters and rails.

They should sound like projectile, as they are coming out with hybrid weapons soon. Hybrid weapons are blasters and rails.

I agree....

While I understand its supposed to be a plasma weapon and blah blah blah "They should sound like x or y", the reality is they are FUNCTIONALLY assault rifles. The sound they should use should reflect what we associate as an assault rifle sound such as an AR or AK, just not a copy of that sound, mix in a few things. The key to a good sound for a weapon like the AR's is using things that we associate with similar style weapons. Sure it uses plasma, but if we shoot it and think "now that sounds like an asssault rifle" then mission accomplished. However, i do not think that with this new sound they put in today...

In the game plasma weapons sound like the small blaster turrets, large blaster turrets, and blaster intallations. The assault rifle sounds way too different then those, and I would like it to sound closer to them since it is a smaller version of those things. Also those things sound cool while the AR is boring.

As for real life plasma, yes lightning is plasma, but its sound is largely irrelevant considering that we're talking about artificially induced plasma being magnetically propelled by machinery, and contained in a magnetic field. Furthermore, its presumptuous to assume all things in a plasma state of matter would produce the same sound, especially when there are conditons like density, speed to consider.

Most importantly, blasters sound kittening awesome.

After this latest "update" where sound is all but gone, I hope we can all see the importance of audio in video games.

I think we've learned a very important lesson today.

The current guy must be hard of hearing because the weapons sound absolutely atrocious.

If you had beefy sounding Assault Rifles and Shotguns it might go a long way towards hiding the woeful gun-play and frame-rate issues.

So I would just like to thank you for taking the Developers away from the real pressing issues with this game so that you could get your better pew pew sounds.

the new sound patch broke pretty much everything. the only sound I hear now is my own weapon, everything else is as quite as ninjas.

a heavy with HMG behind me? well too bad I cant hear him shooting and spinning his weapon... ninja heavies ftw.

So I would just like to thank you for taking the Developers away from the real pressing issues with this game so that you could get your better pew pew sounds.

Amen to that!
Nothing like better sounds to help us ignore the real problems. I hope this example shows everyone we need to report, suggest, and support the necessary fixes and tweaks. Polishing the game's graphics, sound, and similar features are for later.

The current guy must be hard of hearing because the weapons sound absolutely atrocious.

If you had beefy sounding Assault Rifles and Shotguns it might go a long way towards hiding the woeful gun-play and frame-rate issues.

It was a rough example bro!
The fact IS, the shooter is closest to the weapon than the NON shooter, therefore it goes without saying that the sniper rifle sounds are going to be different.

You'd better take that up with CCP then hadn't you?

Or does the "it's a beta" line not apply when it's something that pisses you off about the game?

Lol. Bazing!!! Outed an obvious fanboy and proves certain people in these forums don't want the game to improve and are happy with the lack luster status quo. I'd rather have glitchy real explosions then the treble
Based trash can lid sounds the game has had previous to the sound update

what, a fanboy of betas? grow up

So now what would you suggest they break next?

I understand your frustration, I mean when I pay money for a game I expect perect soun- oh wait...Dust is a free game, that despite it's faults (it is BETA not finished) It still probably one of the best games out there and it isn't even finished. Their doing their best and calling out their staff who are working hard to make a free game as good as other games that you pay for on little issues like sound when they have bigger ish to fry is rather harsh.

I agree the sound needs work but we all Know what it means when we load the game up and it says "Beta- Work in progress"
You could have been nicer about this topic really is all I'm saying, you sir, Owe someone an apology

I understand your frustration, I mean when I pay money for a game I expect perect soun- oh wait...Dust is a free game, that despite it's faults (it is BETA not finished) It still probably one of the best games out there and it isn't even finished. Their doing their best and calling out their staff who are working hard to make a free game as good as other games that you pay for on little issues like sound when they have bigger ish to fry is rather harsh.

I agree the sound needs work but we all Know what it means when we load the game up and it says "Beta- Work in progress"
You could have been nicer about this topic really is all I'm saying, you sir, Owe someone an apology

Your face.