This +1

This is all we need, nothing more.

But there is my point a sniper SHOULD be able to take out any other 1 person. Add the skill requirements but not to the point that they can't get that kill unless their target stays in the same place for over 30 seconds.

I know this isn't realistic but in the terms of a game, someone gets hit by a sniper and tries to duck behind cover. Most players have armor reppers at this point so...the sniper gets a head shot on a heavy, but he doesn't die. Currently they can make a second and possibly 3rd shot to finish off the heavy before he gets to cover, if you add more time before the next shot that heavy will be behind cover and letting his armor repper get him back to full strength. Essentially no kill there.

As for the proto gear having the same hp, I don't know whether or not it does, but I do know it has more CPU/PG. So you can put bigger HP and shield boosting modules on it. Same scenarion as the heavy, that proto gear gets to cover even faster than a heavy so again...no kill there.

You all want to nerf the sniper or rather "make the sniper harder to use" all your suggestions besides the bullet drop and travel time(which is already going to be implemented) would not just make the sniper harder to use but make it basically useless.

Tracer: No issues for pub matches but a death warrant in Corporation battles

Bolt Action: The ONLY thing you would be able to 1-shot(and actually kill) would be standard and militia dropsuits of the Logi/Assault/Scout classes. And that's only if they haven't teched to allow them to use shield and hp extenders of some sort.

I support a higher skill requirement, but don't want to see it useless.

It should be a bit more realistic. We sould be able to hold our breath to prevent sway but only for a few seconds and depending on your adrenalin count like in the sniper: ghost warrior series

If you want to be realistic, then you should realize marksmen don't hold their breath to improve their accuracy. It's some stupid effect some COD-style game put in years ago and everyone has copied.

Sniping and camping, has always been and will always be, a part of shooting games. I remember that Atari tank game and camping with perfectly lined up shots that bounced around the map. It's called a strategy. In most cases, a reliable and sound strategy.

If you like running around blasting away, that's perfectly fine. I prefer you do. Makes it easier to pick you off.

And again I will state that for pub matches sure but for Corp matches it makes Snipers COMPLETELY useless. I think sacrificing competitive effectiveness for those who just want to run around killing stuff in public matches is wrong and can't believe you still refuse to acknoledge this comment I've made several times.

Is that because you know that it would destroy the sniper as a competitive class?

It's not his "hurt feelings" it's your bad attitude he was refferring to. As he stated about you doing to others, you didn't apologize, or address the issue, all you did was belittle him and continue spewing garbage.

But there is my point a sniper SHOULD be able to take out any other 1 person. Add the skill requirements but not to the point that they can't get that kill unless their target stays in the same place for over 30 seconds.

I know this isn't realistic but in the terms of a game, someone gets hit by a sniper and tries to duck behind cover. Most players have armor reppers at this point so...the sniper gets a head shot on a heavy, but he doesn't die. Currently they can make a second and possibly 3rd shot to finish off the heavy before he gets to cover, if you add more time before the next shot that heavy will be behind cover and letting his armor repper get him back to full strength. Essentially no kill there.

32 Players - 17 Snipers. Counted. It's not even fun anymore. And don't tell me it takes skill, I've gone 12-0 with a militia sniper rifle, all you do is crouch, wait for dot to run red and fire. It's not even kitten funny anymore.

I've pretty much found the opposite to be true.

It's almost impossible to get a 1 hit kill with a sniper rifle - even a fully charged charge sniper. (unless you get a headshot, which can be very difficult if there's even the slightest bit of lag, and since this is a FPS, with no cover mechanic or any sort of fatigue mechanic that would cause people to stop and rest, everyone's running all the time).

And it's not as simple as waiting for the dot to turn red. Quite often, I've been shooting at a stationary target - reticle centered perfectly on them, and I couldn't even get a hit marker - and I wasn't that far away to be out of range.

So far, the only sniper setup I'm starting to find reliable is to double-tap with the Tactical Sniper Rifle.

That being said, I have encountered some very capable enemy snipers, with the best sniper rifles and profile dampners, but never to the extent of snipers being half of the enemy team.

CCP Wolfman is redoing sniper rifles to have projectile travel time and bullet drop. Snipers will have to compensate for that and lead their targets to get kills. Its being worked on.

How big of a drop are we talking? Sniper Rifles are basically rail guns so I don't imagine they have travel time and drop. That being said I don't mind them making snipers more skill (personal skill) intensive.

no one knows the specifics, but good times ahead

I belive snipers is a good thing. It took me 20 seconds to respawn, run around to were the sniper were sitting, sneaking up behind him and meele the f*****er to death.. I left that game quite satisfied.. I, however, do not aprove of snipers beeing allowed to sit outside the red border..

How big of a drop are we talking? Sniper Rifles are basically rail guns so I don't imagine they have travel time and drop. That being said I don't mind them making snipers more skill (personal skill) intensive.

should just be removed imo

You can not remove sniper rifles from a first person shooter, that's like removing muscle cars from forza 4 or gt5.

Nah. Dust would be a better game without snipers. Of course, they'd be constantly peppered with threads here about adding sniper rifles, but that's not so bad. As-is, sniping contributes essentially nothing to the game. The people being sniped may as well just be stepping on invisible claymores or landmines or something added by the game at the start of the match. Oops, you walked in this spot and magically took some damage, that sucks. Gotta take a few seconds to heal and then carry on, hope you don't hit another one. Snipers and the people they're sniping are playing two completely separate games.

On power, and such, I think sniper rifles should be high-powered enough to 1-shot infantry, but that they should be hard to use. Slow RoF, bullet-drop, and travel time. This type of system rewards the dedicated sniper, and deters the cowardly pot-shotter. At least then, you feel a bit of respect for the guy that popped your head from the other side of the map...

I don't find snipers a problem, most of them are very predictable, and easy to kill once you get close to them. And a team full up with snipers never wins the match anyway. Just learn to deal with them, they really are not such a big problem.

32 Players - 17 Snipers. Counted. It's not even fun anymore. And don't tell me it takes skill, I've gone 12-0 with a militia sniper rifle, all you do is crouch, wait for dot to run red and fire. It's not even kitten funny anymore.

How big of a drop are we talking? Sniper Rifles are basically rail guns so I don't imagine they have travel time and drop. That being said I don't mind them making snipers more skill (personal skill) intensive.