Bring out the Forge Gun and let the games begin!

By and large I do agree with what Infinity has been preaching for no less than three months. Make snipers a skilled class. When the skill is there, make it a deadly class.

But then what of all the other technology based advancements? I mean we have lasers but a sniper rifle is still bolt action?

Also if CCP did this then they would have to make head shots kill everytime otherwise a sniper could NEVER kill a heavy and it would be difficult to kill proto suits.

Mods, please kill this thread. The sniper rifles are in decent conditions so there's no need for unnecessary nerfs.

Snipers? No problem. Get some dropships and buddies and take em down. Hell a tank can do it. HELL why don't we just chase them down as infantry?

By and large I do agree with what Infinity has been preaching for no less than three months. Make snipers a skilled class. When the skill is there, make it a deadly class.

I'd like to see changes to snipers by having more variables affecting their aim:

1. Atmospheric variable - affects bullet flight path
Solution = atmospheric computation module, this is a low slot computer that analyzes the wind and temperature and gives a readout of its findings and aiming corrections in the HUD.

2. Range/bullet drop variable - Remove yardage markers on infantry / items and add bullet drop.
Solution: range finder/bullet drop module, low slot module that displays the yardage of an item in the HUD and gives the sniper a good indication of how to compensate for bullet drop. Currently, yardage is given for free, it should cost to be able to use it.

3. Mil dots in HUD scopes, remove orange dot when on target.
Solution: when both the atmospheric and range finder module are used together, the HUD computes the best mil dot / minute calculation for down range success. No easy mode orange light when on target, just a suggestion from the combo computers telling what the best mil dots to use. Kinda works like a snipers spotter.

4. Sway - when scoped, rifle should always have a little sway. This needs to be in rhythm with one's stamina/heartbeat, less stamina means more sway. As the person settles down, the sway subsides but still has a small sway.
Solution = being able to go prone and use a bipod.

Has anybody noticed the snipers whom sit in their MCC and shoot people, kinda like fish in a barrel, hella thing about it is you cant kill those snipers. Whats being done with that??

[quote=Cortez The Killer]Refer to the description of the Sniper rifle: Shots fired currently move at a speed of 2,500 m/s.
2,500 meters in ONE SECOND. (Just to get my point across)
That's 750 meters in 0.3 seconds. (375 meters in 0.15 seconds)
That's not even in the range of a Sniper right now.

Aaaand we're still at it... might as well jump back in.



''I'll never look at it like this was some sort of shooting match, where the man with the most kills wins the gold medal,''
- Hathcock -



But back on topic... we went from nerfing, to making it more difficult. One claims more realism the other claims the scy-fy way.... In the end alot of opinions and trolling all accumulating to one point :


"What should really be done, what is doable and what should mosdef. NOT be done.

What should be done : remove redlining, on this at least we ALL agree.
What is doable : bulletdrop, limit total number of snipers/game etc.
What should mosdef NOT be done : tracers.

Why no tracers; dude thats like lighting fireworks after every kill you make. It is the most dumbest thing I have ever heard for a sniper class. Its like putting a reddot lasersight on a dropshipturret or putting a silencer on a tank...

The whole point of a sniper is not how many he offs, but when/where and who he kills. I never made those 20/0 scores some of you are bragging about, then again i'm on the right side of the red line... there where the action is. And I'm going solo and not with 3 squadmembers to help me out when in need. Since nobody is going after the snipers, we can also safely assume nobody is going after the 'countersnipers' or sniperhunters either...

If snipers are getting ridiculously nerfed by adding a shitload of bulletmechanisms, more recoil, cooldown etc then it will become an impossible classe to enjoy playing.

Previously with he lag it was indeed pretty cool; being obliged to 'front' your shot as to counter the lag, yeah that was almost realistic... but it shouldn't go much further then that. We'll end up taking 1minute/shot then run for 5 minutes till the fireworks are over and the cooldown ends... and what did we win.. NOT the kill since you all made me shoot the sob at least 5 times. By the time I can align my 3th shot Either I'm dead, he is healed or someone from my team stole my kill; result me ending up earning jack shlt.



I for one don't give a *beep* about kdr, leaderboards, squads or even corps for the moment. I just wanna play a fun game.
And for me shooting you from afar is indeed fun. If teammember is in need then I have the goods. If a objective is in need of hacking, yeah got that covered and hacked, If I have the need to become temporary cannonfodder then my suits are ready. If I need to take out a L/Hav then my suit is ready. If you want me to take 1 minute/kil and then run for 5 minutes and NOT earning any decent WP's... yeah not happening since that will kill the game...

Lob mass driver rounds in their general location and they usually start running.

32 Players - 17 Snipers. Counted. It's not even fun anymore. And don't tell me it takes skill, I've gone 12-0 with a militia sniper rifle, all you do is crouch, wait for dot to run red and fire. It's not even kitten funny anymore.

I have nothing against snipers and propose no changes to them currently, I'll just say this:

At least in skirmish, if the majority of any given team is sniping, they really aren't capturing objectives and it leads to an easy demise/redline match more often than not. That being said, maybe it would be neat if during the respawn screen (selecting loadout) it showed you how many people on your team are Assault, Scout, Logi, Heavy.

That way perhaps people might notice (that they may not otherwise) a lack of a certain role, and realize they could balance it a bit more by switching to a different kit.

I mean if nothing else it'd be a helpful tip/tool and I'm sure at least some people would acknowledge and benefit from it.

But back on topic... we went from nerfing, to making it more difficult.

Why no tracers; dude thats like lighting fireworks after every kill you make. It is the most dumbest thing I have ever heard for a sniper class. Its like putting a reddot lasersight on a dropshipturret or putting a silencer on a tank...

If snipers are getting ridiculously nerfed by adding a shitload of bulletmechanisms, more recoil, cooldown etc then it will become an impossible classe to enjoy playing.

I have nothing against snipers and propose no changes to them currently, I'll just say this:

At least in skirmish, if the majority of any given team is sniping, they really aren't capturing objectives and it leads to an easy demise/redline match more often than not. That being said, maybe it would be neat if during the respawn screen (selecting loadout) it showed you how many people on your team are Assault, Scout, Logi, Heavy.

That way perhaps people might notice (that they may not otherwise) a lack of a certain role, and realize they could balance it a bit more by switching to a different kit.

I mean if nothing else it'd be a helpful tip/tool and I'm sure at least some people would acknowledge and benefit from it.

You're the kind of person that needs to be driven away from the role, in that case. People who are doing it because it's an easy, safe way to kill ***** are the people we can afford to not want to play sniper any longer, once the new sniping mechanics are in.