Potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

Being hit by a LAV shouldn't be fatal for anyone as well. Otherwise, yeah, eliminate the starter LAV. Making stuff not cost ISK in a game like this is pretty stupid.

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

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Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo.
Keep the free LAV.

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Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo.
Keep the free LAV.

Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.

Anything that ought to be able to kill something, ought to be able to kill the proto version of it. You lost your isk, deal with it.

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Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo.
Keep the free LAV.

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

Sounds like somebody had like a 15-0 match going, before they got run over by an LAV.

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

It should take more effort to kill prototype than militia, otherwise what's the point?

i think as someone mentioned earlier we should just get a personnel carrier instead of the LAV's for the free vehicle, and as CCP say they want many more vehicles we can home APC's are one of them :) tho maybe the free one would not have any/much armour

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

AUR BPO for a lav makes sense.....but the free lavs are the least annoying thing on the battlefield. They're easy easy kills. Sure...put 4 people in a lav..lol..will make for some good kill feeds.

Don't change anything CCP

Allright lets take a look at this shall we?:
dropsuit= empty cola can
LAV= weights around 2 tons

2 tons hitting the cola can resulting in a deformation beyond repair. And it doesnt make a difference if it was a no name cola can or a original coca cola can. What you guys demand is that a cola can is aible to not deform at all while getting hit by 2 tons of weight at once. And now we go onto medical aspects. You the guy in the dropsuit are getting lethal injuries because your dropsuit gets deformed. After all inside the dropsuit is still a human who is totally mortal.

What your saying makes sense, only thing is your analogy is inaccurate. We aren't running around wearing tin cans we apparently have state of the art shielding and armor. I would say something that can brush off a couple of super heated plasma rounds can take on a vehicle collision. That being said I also think falling damage needs to be lowered.

Tell me again how large turrets or forge guns differentiate between militia & Proto.

Sorry but this thread is LoL funny. About the only thing that needs doing is to NOT give 1 race a better gun for free. Missile > Blaster. That is all.

Like a few others said, this gets my vote.

I approve this message!

It should take more effort to kill prototype than militia, otherwise what's the point?

You "approve" this message? What do you think you are, some kind of forum mod that can choose which message gets through/approved or not? Gtfo here mate you're pathetic, go back to your basement where you belong.

You "approve" this message? What do you think you are, some kind of forum mod that can choose which message gets through/approved or not? Gtfo here mate you're pathetic, go back to your basement where you belong.

However those tin cans rupture when you toss them off a tall building unless you activate your inertial dampner.

Hitting the ground or having a LAV hit you is all pretty much the same accelleration wise. If one will kill you the other is bound to as well.

I think everyone would be so much less frustrated if CCP just raised the amount of money we gained per match again.. -.-

Ba hahahahahahaaha this has got be the funniest thread yet!

Waaaaaa let's get rid of free lavs cause they take out my proto suit. Hahahahahahahaha.

Seriously though how is my fatty supposed to get around?

The only change we need is some noise so its not so sneaky.

Imagine if suits didn't get crushed and you got booted like a kickball.

I actually don't have a proto suit. BTW i dropped that strike on you earlier on purpose.

I actually think the amount we make now is enough.

yeah cause you can cheat and just get backed by eve or another corp...

its not enough, I play with no backing no help and I know its not enough.

So do I. I've never used EVE money and always used my own.

Besides EVE can't transfer money anymore and everyone's wallets have been reset. I find the amount we make right now is enough to reimburse our lost gear and easily make a profit.

Why are all imperfects so bigheaded? Only because they seperated from betamax they think they are all pro. Honestly i think ROFL house would win against them. Simply due to the fact that they gained by far the most WP so far in the tourny and close behind that is SI. The imperfects even merged with a other corp cause they are too weak to stand a chance on their own. Oh and i know the biggest and fatal flaw of every imperfect:
FPS gamer rage. As soon that kicks in they loose controll, insult their own team and then ragequit.
This goes espacially for the zitro's. Any kind of explosive or in their opinion cheap death= RAGE. I expect them to not wining the tourny for another reason and that is they are scared to loose their holy "stats".

Why are all imperfects so bigheaded? Only because they seperated from betamax they think they are all pro. Honestly i think ROFL house would win against them. Simply due to the fact that they gained by far the most WP so far in the tourny and close behind that is SI. The imperfects even merged with a other corp cause they are too weak to stand a chance on their own. Oh and i know the biggest and fatal flaw of every imperfect:
FPS gamer rage. As soon that kicks in they loose controll, insult their own team and then ragequit.
This goes espacially for the zitro's. Any kind of explosive or in their opinion cheap death= RAGE. I expect them to not wining the tourny for another reason and that is they are scared to loose their holy "stats".

I agree with getting rid of the free LAV. but thats only cause I really don't have much use for it other than getting from the MCC to a control point.

give us ATVs with no weapons on them, or something of that sort. maybe a Hoverbike.

Never been much to use vehicles, but it'd be nice just to have a personal transport to get around with. in Planetside, there was a ATV. it had no weapons, very, very little armor. But it was useful for getting from battle to battle, and if you wore a Infiltrator suit, the ATV cloaked with you.

welcome to the FPS community.

i'm just waiting to park my dread in space and show them what true firepower is

Sitting on 5 million ISK right now juss chillen People that are broke obviously don't know what they're doing.

Ba hahahahahahaaha this has got be the funniest thread yet!

Waaaaaa let's get rid of free lavs cause they take out my proto suit. Hahahahahahahaha.

Seriously though how is my fatty supposed to get around?

The only change we need is some noise so its not so sneaky.

Imagine if suits didn't get crushed and you got booted like a kickball.

Awww... love the ignorant post

Not to mention you left betamax as well and are pretty "bigheaded" yourself.

I'm sorry but free LAV's have always taken away from gameplay. If you want to use a vehicle you should have to pay for it or buy a BPO. It makes absolutely no sense that kids can spam free LAV's when they have to pay for their dropsuits.

It also doesn't make sense that you can call a tank on a building and shoot into the red zone keeping anything from moving out, but you did that. Hmmm.

Tony is right. Keep the free LAV's.

if you want to move around the map in a vehicle you should have to pay for it, or buy an AUR BPO.

Still waiting to hear how they detract from gameplay. All I see so far is " scrubs shouldn't play" and "you should pay AUR for BPO". Not really seeing a reason why.

Anything that ought to be able to kill something, ought to be able to kill the proto version of it. You lost your isk, deal with it.

AV nade, pro sniper, swarm launcher, forge gun, any turret, another LAV. All simple easy counters. Except the sniper. He's gotta be pretty good to pop the driver. The idea there is no defence against them is LoLfunny.

AV nade, pro sniper, swarm launcher, forge gun, any turret, another LAV. All simple easy counters. Except the sniper. He's gotta be pretty good to pop the driver. The idea there is no defence against them is LoLfunny.

I throw nades at incomming LAVs all the time. They are part of the reason AV nades are on all my fits. I don't see how making them AUR only will change the gameplay except to pin noobs in their spawns.
That's what the topic is about.

@noc
Over reaching? Not IMHO.

if you want to move around the map in a vehicle you should have to pay for it, or buy an AUR BPO.

I don't think AV grenades should be a necessity. I don't think they should be AUR only, I think they should keep the militia LAV as paid and replace the BPO with a new vehicle that is either a better troop transport (4 seat jeep) or personal transport (1 seat bike) that you cannot add modules to nor gunned (besides the passengers). The problem isn't ISK prices, it is the lack of SP and risk involved for the ease of killing any infantry. I am against ALL 1HK items, including the current missile turrets.

In other words nerf snipers, railguns, forge guns, mass drivers, shotguns, impact grenades, remote explosives, missile turrets and lav collisions. All these in the right hands are 1hk so lets just nerf um all cus 1hk is bad.

It's not that bad...

Throw AV grenades and they blow up in 1-2 hits :P

Um, yes? That would definitely make for better gameplay. It has to require great skill at the very least for 1HK to be balanced.

If you nerf these weapons then wat is the point of having them in game? For example if a forge gun doesn't have massive dmg it can't kill a tank and as a side effect is 1hk, so if u nerf it its a pointless weapon might as well remove it. All these weapons have a purpose (and a counter) and if u nerf them it takes away their purpose so just remove them instead so all we have are assault rifles, laser rifles, scrambler pistols and smgs. Oh wait recent threads have pointed out tht laser rifles assault rifles and scrambler are all op so we might as well remove them as well. Only smgs ppl thts all you get. Flavorless 514

Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.

And it's not a car crushing a dude, it's a car hitting a supersoldier clone encased in armor that can withstand lasers and missiles and plasma rounds, and all with a forcefield around it. Even one of us getting hit by a car wouldn't necessarily be fatal, and we're regular jackoffs and not video game space men.

if you want to move around the map in a vehicle you should have to pay for it, or buy an AUR BPO.


It's not that bad...

Throw AV grenades and they blow up in 1-2 hits :P


Yea but not everyone wants to carry around AV grenades. And they shouldn't have to either.

You have a flawed idea of feedback. I am saying up the skill and/or risk criteria for OHKs. Never did I say remove all the weapons from the game.

Somebody that's butthurt because I denied them a spawn point using a Militia Sica with a blaster on it. Seriously if You can't take out a militia Sica sitting on top of a building begging to get shot down you might as well quit playing the game.

Anyways thats besides the point. Nothing in this game should be "free" unless you buy the BPO using AUR as stated in the OP.

Yea but not everyone wants to carry around AV grenades. And they shouldn't have to either.

i know you didnt say remove the weapons, im not saying you did. im saying that if you nerf everything that is 1hk then you remove the purpose of the weapon and if the weapon has no purpose why is it in the game? Lavs are trash as it is because they are hard to control and the gunner has no protection, you want to remove the one thing skilled lav drivers have to be and effective weapon, collisions. they are not light transport vehicles, they are light attack vehicles. I dont have a problem with making the free vehicle something else like a 4 person jeep or a single man bike, but if you remove 1hk collisions then the lav becomes a pointless vehicle.

Your idea of balance is garbage. It takes no skill to run people over, and if you think that is the only thing LAV's are good for, you are simple wrong. LAV's are brutal as AP vehicles right now. Hell, you can even give tanks a run for their money. If you NEED one hit kill weapons in a game to get kills, you are bad. Rocket tag is fun for quick comedy, not serious competition or long term fun.

Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.

And it's not a car crushing a dude, it's a car hitting a supersoldier clone encased in armor that can withstand lasers and missiles and plasma rounds, and all with a forcefield around it. Even one of us getting hit by a car wouldn't necessarily be fatal, and we're regular jackoffs and not video game space men.

Yes, because the way this stuff works is that you skill up to prototype, spending 50k on a prototype suit, and are meant to derive no benefit at all from it. Good thinking there, genius.

The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies

"Derive no benefit"? Do you not shoot anyone in between becoming an expensive red stain on the floor?