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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:49:00 -
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if you want to move around the map in a vehicle you should have to pay for it, or buy an AUR BPO. |
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mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:51:00 -
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Sounds like somebody had like a 15-0 match going, before they got run over by an LAV. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) |
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:53:00 -
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The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:56:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
+1 for this! Not QQing about the LAVs though. LOL. Sucks to be on the recieving end of a carmageddon incident especially as a heavy.
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Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:27:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) I approve this message! |
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:40:00 -
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Being hit by a LAV shouldn't be fatal for anyone as well. Otherwise, yeah, eliminate the starter LAV. Making stuff not cost ISK in a game like this is pretty stupid. |
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Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:46:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Being hit by a LAV shouldn't be fatal for anyone as well. Otherwise, yeah, eliminate the starter LAV. Making stuff not cost ISK in a game like this is pretty stupid. shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds |
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Governor Odius
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:48:00 -
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As someone who uses starter suits almost exclusively, I think an argument could be made for restricting those, too. I mean, you don't see Velators fit with their base civilian blaster running around New Eden causing havoc. I get that a starter suit has to exist, but it probably shouldn't be as effective as it is. |
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Nstomper
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:49:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) I agree we should have trasnport vehicles in the game , maybe futuristic mortorcycles for solo players? Or maybe like planet side 2 sunders for squads? |
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Fivetimes Infinity
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:59:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds
Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.
And it's not a car crushing a dude, it's a car hitting a supersoldier clone encased in armor that can withstand lasers and missiles and plasma rounds, and all with a forcefield around it. Even one of us getting hit by a car wouldn't necessarily be fatal, and we're regular jackoffs and not video game space men. |
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Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:00:00 -
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No. It's good for match pace and it's fun element. They are made of paper and good for taxi only. |
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:01:00 -
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Again this goes back to the issue that there are no "infantry sized objectives" to avoid this situation. Running over the guy crossing the street without looking? Sure, hilarious. Realizing that street is the only place to have gun fights anyway? Suddenly the problem is obvious. |
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Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:07:00 -
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In BF3, you can run people down with jeeps and other such vehicles. It's seen as just apart of the game. Therefore, if any change is done here, it should be the accessibilty of LAVs such as making them cost. Afterall, LAVs are easily countered with AV grenades. As for LAVs being only 3 seaters, I have commented that LAVs should be atleast 4 seats so they can fit a full squad but was informed the squad size was not definitely 4 at the time. As squads are still only 4, 4 appears to be the squad max where if that is true, the LAV should fit 4. |
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Terram Nenokal
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:16:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Holy crap, this. +1 |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:21:00 -
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LoL Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo. Keep the free LAV. |
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:23:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:LoL Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo. Keep the free LAV.
I abuse the hell out of free LAVs. Doesn't mean I think it's good gameplay. |
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Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:24:00 -
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Swarm Launchers, they're your friend, use them....
-I love free LAVs and NEVER use them 90+WP |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:26:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:LoL Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo. Keep the free LAV.
Could you post this again so I can like it twice? |
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:29:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Nstomper wrote:shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear.
Anything that ought to be able to kill something, ought to be able to kill the proto version of it. You lost your isk, deal with it. |
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Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:31:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Nstomper wrote:shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear. Anything that ought to be able to kill something, ought to be able to kill the proto version of it. You lost your isk, deal with it.
It should take more effort to kill prototype than militia, otherwise what's the point? |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:59:00 -
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Tell me again how large turrets or forge guns differentiate between militia & Proto.
Sorry but this thread is LoL funny. About the only thing that needs doing is to NOT give 1 race a better gun for free. Missile > Blaster. That is all. |
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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:02:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:LoL Scrubs. Get AV or gtfo. Keep the free LAV.
I'm sorry but free LAV's have always taken away from gameplay. If you want to use a vehicle you should have to pay for it or buy a BPO. It makes absolutely no sense that kids can spam free LAV's when they have to pay for their dropsuits. |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:02:00 -
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I like free LAVs tbh
+40 WP and the odd kill or 2 to go with it |
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:03:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) this +1 |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:21:00 -
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I'm waiting to hear how a free LAV ruins the game, but a 10k ISK LAV doesn't... or an AUR p2w version? The signal radius and audio bugs need work, because it sucks being squashed by a silent vehicle. Lore be damned. V8 sound track would be nice. |
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Theos Bell
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:25:00 -
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I agree with:
LAV takes damage too on collision with infantry. LAV like starter dropsuits. You have an initial new character supply, after that they cost, or you buy the BPO for AUR. LAVs fit a whole squad. If not a starter LAV then some LAV transport. Annoying right now to leave one man behind after the first LAV drops. LAVs deal damage on impact, even if it's a lot of dmg. Proto heavies should be able to survive a hit.
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:16:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:Sounds like somebody had like a 15-0 match going, before they got run over by an LAV. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
+1 jepp jepp
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Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:21:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The free lav should be 4 seats, no gun, no modules. The paid lavs should have freaking roofs. Any roadkill should do equal damage back, potentially leading to awesome stand your ground moments with heavies ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
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Thurak Mirunas
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:25:00 -
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i think as someone mentioned earlier we should just get a personnel carrier instead of the LAV's for the free vehicle, and as CCP say they want many more vehicles we can home APC's are one of them :) tho maybe the free one would not have any/much armour |
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Riot Ruckus
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:30:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Nstomper wrote:shouldnt be fatal? It's a car crushing a dude at fast speeds Who cares? Moving forward and steering a bit in a free vehicle should not be able to drop someone in proto gear. Anything that ought to be able to kill something, ought to be able to kill the proto version of it. You lost your isk, deal with it. It should take more effort to kill prototype than militia, otherwise what's the point?
I read effort as money. As a heavy, when my dropsuit cost 100k and can be ran over by a free lav, its infuriating. |
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