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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:33:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Are you f*cking ret*rded? This isn't even suppose to be a 1v1ing game, that's why we don't have any sort of free for all. And gear still doesn't win 1v1s. You are ret*rded if you think that 1 vs 1 doesn't happen in this game. That's like saying dust isn't about dropships battling each other so we should just ignore those mechanics.
Seriously If you aren't trolling right now, you are really stupid.
Since strafing was nerfed this game is so easy a caveman can do it.
You chanting gear doesn't win gunfights like its your mantra. I already broke it down and explained it to you why on a competitive level it does. Just stop you are only making yourself look like a fool. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:38:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Are you f*cking ret*rded? This isn't even suppose to be a 1v1ing game, that's why we don't have any sort of free for all. And gear still doesn't win 1v1s. You are ret*rded if you think that 1 vs 1 doesn't happen in this game. That's like saying dust isn't about dropships battling each other so we should just ignore those mechanics. Seriously If you aren't trolling right now, you are really stupid. 1v1s haven't happened for me since they introduced squads to this game, only a dumb*ss would run solo against a squad. It's one thing to ask for strafe buffs, but coming up with ****-poor excuses for it shows that you're trolling. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:44:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Are you f*cking ret*rded? This isn't even suppose to be a 1v1ing game, that's why we don't have any sort of free for all. And gear still doesn't win 1v1s. You are ret*rded if you think that 1 vs 1 doesn't happen in this game. That's like saying dust isn't about dropships battling each other so we should just ignore those mechanics. Seriously If you aren't trolling right now, you are really stupid. 1v1s haven't happened for me since they introduced squads to this game, only a dumb*ss would run solo against a squad. It's one thing to ask for strafe buffs, but coming up with ****-poor excuses for it shows that you're trolling. More complex 1 vs 1 in an fps is a **** poor excuse?
Now who's trolling?
All my points still stand. All you keep saying is gear doesn't win 1 vs 1 after I already broke it down for you in a simple manner that should be easy to understand. When both players have great aim then gear wins the battle. End of story. Whats that you still don't understand?
You are like a kid with his hands over his ears. You don't want to hear the truth. |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
138
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Perhaps they could consider adding a "strafe sprint" that consumes a lot of stamina quickly, but gives you a burst of speed while strafing, though you would be unable to shoot, just like normal sprinting. Aside from that, the pace is actually quite good now. I'd also like to point you to THIS thread, which just discusses the following:
- Dodge - Allow running while strafing (and list strafe speeds in suit statistics along with turning speeds).
- Duck - Switching back and forth between a normal run and a low profile run with crouch.
- Dip - Low profile run (use run command while crouched, disables jump and forces a roll or a tumble at the end of the run before stopping - can only be used when running forward).
- Dive -Tumble or Roll to end a normal run (while running press the crouch button).
- Dodge - Jumping while running with strafe causes the user to launch into sideways jump rather than a vertical jump.
oh god, blops dolphin diving all over again, no to this CCP. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:48:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Are you f*cking ret*rded? This isn't even suppose to be a 1v1ing game, that's why we don't have any sort of free for all. And gear still doesn't win 1v1s. You are ret*rded if you think that 1 vs 1 doesn't happen in this game. That's like saying dust isn't about dropships battling each other so we should just ignore those mechanics. Seriously If you aren't trolling right now, you are really stupid. 1v1s haven't happened for me since they introduced squads to this game, only a dumb*ss would run solo against a squad. It's one thing to ask for strafe buffs, but coming up with ****-poor excuses for it shows that you're trolling. More complex 1 vs 1 in an fps is a **** poor excuse? Now who's trolling? All my points still stand. All you keep saying is gear doesn't win 1 vs 1 after I already broke it down for you in a simple manner that should be easy to understand. When both players have great aim then gear wins the battle. End of story. Whats that you still don't understand? You are like a kid with his hands over his ears. You don't want to hear the truth. It's obvious, the one using cover will win, how it should be. Next troll attemp, and make it quick i don't have all day. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:51:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:So, we need to increase the strafe speed because while it's significant enough to cause 90% of the game's population to need to apply skill to overcome it, there's a 10% elite player base that, when they come in contact with each-other, require a higher strafing speed to enable "skill" to provide them a result rather than "gear".
As it stands if you run into any of the 90% you quickly out-strafe them and kill them and you need that advantage enhanced further so that when you encounter another "elite" player, you two can dance around each-other's shots and try to kill each-other like hit detection was still broken? The scrubs can stay high sec and the best players will go to null sec. (Or whichever is which) The game needs to cater to both play styles. If strafe speeds are increased you can still crouchwalk in a corner all you want. It doesn't seem to stop the blue dots in mag. The players that lack gun will strive to get better. Its one of the aspects that really keeps a game alive and prosperous. A competitive community is what we need for this game to have staying power. Kitten you with the back end of a sniper rifle for having the audacity to kittening say any of the kittening kitten that you just kittening said when you make it so kittening clear that you don't give a flying kitten about anyone's kittening play-style but your own. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:53:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Are you f*cking ret*rded? This isn't even suppose to be a 1v1ing game, that's why we don't have any sort of free for all. And gear still doesn't win 1v1s. You are ret*rded if you think that 1 vs 1 doesn't happen in this game. That's like saying dust isn't about dropships battling each other so we should just ignore those mechanics. Seriously If you aren't trolling right now, you are really stupid. 1v1s haven't happened for me since they introduced squads to this game, only a dumb*ss would run solo against a squad. It's one thing to ask for strafe buffs, but coming up with ****-poor excuses for it shows that you're trolling. More complex 1 vs 1 in an fps is a **** poor excuse? Now who's trolling? All my points still stand. All you keep saying is gear doesn't win 1 vs 1 after I already broke it down for you in a simple manner that should be easy to understand. When both players have great aim then gear wins the battle. End of story. Whats that you still don't understand? You are like a kid with his hands over his ears. You don't want to hear the truth. It's obvious, the one using cover will win, how it should be. Next troll attemp, and make it quick i don't have all day. LOL are you serious? That equation has nothing to do with cover. They both saw each other and started shooting at each other- then the better gear wins. I am not attempting to troll I am proving you wrong over and over again and laughing at you while I do so.
Anything else you need to break down and explain for you three times before you grasp the concept? |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:55:00 -
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The camping in this game is no different than COD. Everybody who refuses to acknowledge the blatant camping is blowing smoke. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:55:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:So, we need to increase the strafe speed because while it's significant enough to cause 90% of the game's population to need to apply skill to overcome it, there's a 10% elite player base that, when they come in contact with each-other, require a higher strafing speed to enable "skill" to provide them a result rather than "gear".
As it stands if you run into any of the 90% you quickly out-strafe them and kill them and you need that advantage enhanced further so that when you encounter another "elite" player, you two can dance around each-other's shots and try to kill each-other like hit detection was still broken? The scrubs can stay high sec and the best players will go to null sec. (Or whichever is which) The game needs to cater to both play styles. If strafe speeds are increased you can still crouchwalk in a corner all you want. It doesn't seem to stop the blue dots in mag. The players that lack gun will strive to get better. Its one of the aspects that really keeps a game alive and prosperous. A competitive community is what we need for this game to have staying power. Kitten you with the back end of a sniper rifle for having the audacity to kittening say any of the kittening kitten that you just kittening said when you make it so kittening clear that you don't give a flying kitten about anyone's kittening play-style but your own. lol obviously butthurt. ^^^
Obviously can't aim when I strafe.
Go back to low sec carebear. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:57:00 -
[100] - Quote
Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. |
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:58:00 -
[101] - Quote
Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly.
Only idiots run around the map in free LAV's. Swarms and AV's nades will make short work of those idiots. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:59:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. I never said I don't use cover. I was breaking down a simple equation for you so you would better understand that on a competitive level gear wins 1 vs 1. . .
You still don't understand whats being discussed here. You need to go to bed. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:00:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:So, we need to increase the strafe speed because while it's significant enough to cause 90% of the game's population to need to apply skill to overcome it, there's a 10% elite player base that, when they come in contact with each-other, require a higher strafing speed to enable "skill" to provide them a result rather than "gear".
As it stands if you run into any of the 90% you quickly out-strafe them and kill them and you need that advantage enhanced further so that when you encounter another "elite" player, you two can dance around each-other's shots and try to kill each-other like hit detection was still broken? The scrubs can stay high sec and the best players will go to null sec. (Or whichever is which) The game needs to cater to both play styles. If strafe speeds are increased you can still crouchwalk in a corner all you want. It doesn't seem to stop the blue dots in mag. The players that lack gun will strive to get better. Its one of the aspects that really keeps a game alive and prosperous. A competitive community is what we need for this game to have staying power. Kitten you with the back end of a sniper rifle for having the audacity to kittening say any of the kittening kitten that you just kittening said when you make it so kittening clear that you don't give a flying kitten about anyone's kittening play-style but your own. lol obviously butthurt. ^^^ Obviously can't aim when I strafe. Go back to low sec carebear. When you rage-quit over low strafe speed can I haz your stuff? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:01:00 -
[104] - Quote
xjumpman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. Only idiots run around the map in free LAV's. Swarms and AV's nades will make short work of those idiots. Militia modules, i take more than one swarm/av nade pre death |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:03:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. I never said I don't use cover. I was breaking down a simple equation for you so you would better understand that on a competitive level gear wins 1 vs 1. . . You still don't understand whats being discussed here. You need to go to bed.
You say a strafe speed buff will make the game magically take more skill when I've proven it won't. That's the summary of everything you've said
Edit: insomniacs need no sleep, most of the time... |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:04:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:So, we need to increase the strafe speed because while it's significant enough to cause 90% of the game's population to need to apply skill to overcome it, there's a 10% elite player base that, when they come in contact with each-other, require a higher strafing speed to enable "skill" to provide them a result rather than "gear".
As it stands if you run into any of the 90% you quickly out-strafe them and kill them and you need that advantage enhanced further so that when you encounter another "elite" player, you two can dance around each-other's shots and try to kill each-other like hit detection was still broken? The scrubs can stay high sec and the best players will go to null sec. (Or whichever is which) The game needs to cater to both play styles. If strafe speeds are increased you can still crouchwalk in a corner all you want. It doesn't seem to stop the blue dots in mag. The players that lack gun will strive to get better. Its one of the aspects that really keeps a game alive and prosperous. A competitive community is what we need for this game to have staying power. Kitten you with the back end of a sniper rifle for having the audacity to kittening say any of the kittening kitten that you just kittening said when you make it so kittening clear that you don't give a flying kitten about anyone's kittening play-style but your own. lol obviously butthurt. ^^^ Obviously can't aim when I strafe. Go back to low sec carebear. When you rage-quit over low strafe speed can I haz your stuff? I would put isk on it that they will increase strafe speed next build. When you ragequit because you can't aim and you suck at fps can I haz your stuff? I am going to need it when I am running null sec.
Don't worry if you stay you can still scrub it up in low sec. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:06:00 -
[107] - Quote
Buff strafe speed but also buff turning speed to match it. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:08:00 -
[108] - Quote
Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Obviously can't aim when I strafe. Go back to low sec carebear. When you rage-quit over low strafe speed can I haz your stuff? I would put isk on it that they will increase strafe speed next build. When you ragequit because you can't aim and you suck at fps can I haz your stuff? I am going to need it when I am running null sec. Don't worry if you stay you can still scrub it up in low sec.
Like you said earlier when you can't do something it makes you want to keep working at it to make it better. Dust514 is the first FPS I've played in over 4 years. What's the excuse for your gun game?
Aww, kittens -- are we dance fighting now? |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:08:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. I never said I don't use cover. I was breaking down a simple equation for you so you would better understand that on a competitive level gear wins 1 vs 1. . . You still don't understand whats being discussed here. You need to go to bed. You say a strafe speed buff will make the game magically take more skill when I've proven it won't. That's the summary of everything you've said LOLOLOLOL you haven't proved **** other then you don't know **** about fps. We are talking about on a competitive level. All you proved is that if you can aim, you can kill someone with better gear. We already new that dipshit. On a competitive level when both parties can aim the better gear wins. You are truly are the stupidest person on these forums. Thats like 7 times I have explained that to you. Are you autistic or something?
You are in a state of denial. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:10:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Obviously can't aim when I strafe. Go back to low sec carebear. When you rage-quit over low strafe speed can I haz your stuff? I would put isk on it that they will increase strafe speed next build. When you ragequit because you can't aim and you suck at fps can I haz your stuff? I am going to need it when I am running null sec. Don't worry if you stay you can still scrub it up in low sec. Like you said earlier when you can't do something it makes you want to keep working at it to make it better. Dust514 is the first FPS I've played in over 4 years. What's the excuse for your gun game? Aww, kittens -- are we dance fighting now? I don't need an excuse for my gun game. When I am not playing a corp I drop 20-30 kills almost every game in militia gear. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:11:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. I never said I don't use cover. I was breaking down a simple equation for you so you would better understand that on a competitive level gear wins 1 vs 1. . . You still don't understand whats being discussed here. You need to go to bed. You say a strafe speed buff will make the game magically take more skill when I've proven it won't. That's the summary of everything you've said LOLOLOLOL you haven't proved **** other then you don't know **** about fps. We are talking about on a competitive level. All you proved is that if you can aim, you can kill someone with better gear. We already new that dipshit. On a competitive level when both parties can aim the better gear wins. You are truly are the stupidest person on these forums. Thats like 7 times I have explained that to you. Are you autistic or something? You are in a state of denial.
Once again the ret*rded f*cking QQing b*tch can't prove how increasing the strafe speed will make the game take skill. |
Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:13:00 -
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you know what, this game will suck no matter what they do to the strafe speed. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:16:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Obviously can't aim when I strafe. Go back to low sec carebear. When you rage-quit over low strafe speed can I haz your stuff? I would put isk on it that they will increase strafe speed next build. When you ragequit because you can't aim and you suck at fps can I haz your stuff? I am going to need it when I am running null sec. Don't worry if you stay you can still scrub it up in low sec. Like you said earlier when you can't do something it makes you want to keep working at it to make it better. Dust514 is the first FPS I've played in over 4 years. What's the excuse for your gun game? Aww, kittens -- are we dance fighting now? I don't need an excuse for my gun game. When I am not playing a corp I drop 20-30 kills almost every game in militia gear. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rcg6k/ |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:16:00 -
[114] - Quote
Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only an idiot would completely ignore cover, whether it's the terrain or a building and there's no reason to cross a large open area when we have free lavs. So basically you think the best players in this game do ret*rded sh*t regularly. I never said I don't use cover. I was breaking down a simple equation for you so you would better understand that on a competitive level gear wins 1 vs 1. . . You still don't understand whats being discussed here. You need to go to bed. You say a strafe speed buff will make the game magically take more skill when I've proven it won't. That's the summary of everything you've said LOLOLOLOL you haven't proved **** other then you don't know **** about fps. We are talking about on a competitive level. All you proved is that if you can aim, you can kill someone with better gear. We already new that dipshit. On a competitive level when both parties can aim the better gear wins. You are truly are the stupidest person on these forums. Thats like 7 times I have explained that to you. Are you autistic or something? You are in a state of denial. Once again the ret*rded f*cking QQing b*tch can't prove how increasing the strafe speed will make the game take skill. I am not even going to begin to try and explain that to you. It would take 9 no maybe 10 tries. I literally had to explain one concept to you 6 or 7 times and that was a simple concept. I don't want you to hurt yourself. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:18:00 -
[115] - Quote
And the b*tch trolls more |
Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:18:00 -
[116] - Quote
Next Build. Dust will resemble the knife fight at the end of the Beat It video
and all the "Competitive 1vs1 duelers" will be so happy.
and no one will play any real matches cause everyone will be too busy doing their Competitive 1vs1 duels to see who has the most GUNGAME(tm) aka who can run in a circle better.
1vs1 for the win! epic! |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:25:00 -
[117] - Quote
Tyrus Four wrote:Next Build. Dust will resemble the knife fight at the end of the Beat It video
and all the "Competitive 1vs1 duelers" will be so happy.
and no one will play any real matches cause everyone will be too busy doing their Competitive 1vs1 duels to see who has the most GUNGAME(tm) aka who can run in a circle better.
1vs1 for the win! epic! I know this is a troll but I will respond anyways. This isn't about making the game into a 1 vs 1 fest. The health is to high and teamwork will always be a fundamental aspect within the game. This is about enhancing the 1 vs 1 gameplay to something more complex. Trust me it won't effect your tactical game play or using cover. It will make the game fun for the vocal minority that will leave this game if strafing isn't buffed.
What the vocal minority represents is something bigger then you and me. We are what the competitive community wants. You drive us away and you are driving away a legion of possible dedicated dust bunnies.
Honestly strafing won't drive away the casuals. The lack of strafing will drive away the competitive players. |
Tyrus Four
128
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:34:00 -
[118] - Quote
just tired of arguing about it.
I think the speed is fine. i don't think the game is slow at all. but obviously everyone else playing things that we are reduced to walking and crawling and can't move while firing at all.
just bring on the next build already, so we can find new things to whine about.
hopefully they raise the strafe speed really high so all the GUNGAME(tm) Professional FPSers stop crying about it. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:39:00 -
[119] - Quote
Crimson MoonV wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Once again the ret*rded f*cking QQing b*tch can't prove how increasing the strafe speed will make the game take skill. I am not even going to begin to try and explain that to you. It would take 9 no maybe 10 tries. I literally had to explain one concept to you 6 or 7 times and that was a simple concept. I don't want you to hurt yourself. Vermaak I'll try to explain to the best of my ability. The way strafing speed is now tracking a target and holding down R1 to kill someone can be done easily enough for even a 9 year-old. By increasing both strafing and turning speed you increase the pace you have to keep up in order to keep the recticle on the target. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:45:00 -
[120] - Quote
What I think is most amusing about this whole abortion of a thread that I have somehow conceived, is when someone mentioned CCP's vision.
Am I the only one who clearly recalls them saying they want DUST to be a heavy vehicle based game, with infantry as more or less fillers and support to said vehicular mayhem? |
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