DUST Search - Thoughts on Strafing.

Crimson MoonV wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Tyrus Four wrote:

DUST Fiend must have pushed a button or two here.

interesting.

I know right, it's entertaining but stuff like this really wastes threads. I don't see why it's so hard for people to actually engage in a discussion. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know this guy? Apparently he's killed me before but I've never noticed him at the top of any boards or anything. Those of you on here that are good, what's your take on his skills?

Your only argument against strafing is that it should effect stamina. We are super soldiers and my grandma can sidestep faster then the scout suit in this build. I am not going to start a proper debate with someone who fails at logic. You have no valid point.

If we can sprint across the map we should be able to sidestep in a healthy manner. Your argument holds no weight so don't try and act like you are trying to engage in a legit discussion.

I know I am rude but I have little patience for idiots and scrubs.

If walking doesn't effect stamina then why should sidestepping. Fail harder.

Seriously you fail so hard and try and act all high and mighty. Get real.


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Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:44:00 - [1] - Quote I constantly see people saying "camp camp camp". but the only people i ever see camping are snipers. are we talking about different definitions of camp here? is camping anything that isn't full-on run and gun in the middle of the desert?
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:07:00 - [2] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: I constantly see people saying "camp camp camp". but the only people i ever see camping are snipers. are we talking about different definitions of camp here? is camping anything that isn't full-on run and gun in the middle of the desert? People like to hide in corners and hide behind cover from across the map and camp. You haven't ever ran into an entire group of people just sitting near one objective waiting for people to come. Blob trench warfare. So boring. no I haven't. most everyone who isn't a sniper that I have come across has been on the move or in a vehicle. no, they haven't been running full-on in the middle of the wide open areas of the battlefield, and yeah they use cover to move without getting shot.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:17:00 - [3] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: I constantly see people saying "camp camp camp". but the only people i ever see camping are snipers. are we talking about different definitions of camp here? is camping anything that isn't full-on run and gun in the middle of the desert? People like to hide in corners and hide behind cover from across the map and camp. You haven't ever ran into an entire group of people just sitting near one objective waiting for people to come. Blob trench warfare. So boring. no I haven't. most everyone who isn't a sniper that I have come across has been on the move or in a vehicle. no, they haven't been running full-on in the middle of the wide open areas of the battlefield, and yeah they use cover to move without getting shot. I think you are lying for the sake of arguing or you haven't played this build that much. People camp objectives hard. Especially on the map with all the spikes coming out of the map and the mountains. People camp hard in this build whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The strafe speed nerf encourages this. think what you want. I can only speak from my experiences. if your experience is that everyone sits in one spot for the whole match, then i dunno what to tell you. in my matches, people are always moving from objective to objective. also, I've been playing Dust exclusively since this build came out. i haven't played DCUO in like a week because i have been playing Dust nontop. prolly got kicked from my League over there. we should squad up, and then you can show me what you mean. I am ingame right now.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:36:00 - [4] - Quote maybe I don't see EVERYONE IN THE MATCH DOING NOTHING BUT CAMPING because I don't play Ambush. I only play Skirmish for the most part.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:56:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: We are super soldiers. If we can sprint across the map then we should be able to sidestep faster then my grandma. People will come up with any reasoning they can find to be against the strafe speed. The truth is you can't aim and you want this game made easy for you. That or you have never played a good fps and you have low expectations so you think this build is fun. Oh i'm being tactical I'm using cover. No you are not you are camping behind a rock dumbass. If you are using cover then you are behind something hiding like a little * that can't aim. To bad you can't buy gun game with all that AUR. and there we have it. if you use cover of any kind for any reason or any amount of time, you are camping, according to Crimson's definition. if you aren't 100% run and gun the entire game, you are a camper who can't aim. so I guess, according to Crimson's definition, I have very well seen campers. because everyone who has ever run behind a wall, rock, or structure to keep from dying at any point is a camper. you should just stand there and take the gunfire and die like a real FPSer would. glad we finally cleared that up. to make Crimson happy, CCP should remove all the structures from the game and make all of the maps flat. and then increase the strafe speed to ridiculous levels and remove every suit except the scout. then we'll have a fun, different, unique, awesome FPS that requires true "gungame."
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:06:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend must have pushed a button or two here. interesting.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:11:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: DUST Fiend must have pushed a button or two here. interesting. I know right, it's entertaining but stuff like this really wastes threads. I don't see why it's so hard for people to actually engage in a discussion. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know this guy? Apparently he's killed me before but I've never noticed him at the top of any boards or anything. Those of you on here that are good, what's your take on his skills? never seen him ingame. no, maybe once or twice. not sure. which is why it amused me to no end for him to tell me that I haven't played this build at all, and I am just making stuff up about not seeing many non-sniper camping. but then again, I started with Precursor.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:15:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: I started with Precursor. Was that the first or second build? I came in on the second, I remember raging hard at BAD FURRY and his damn swarm launcher scout lmao Precursor was the build before this one. i dunno how many previous builds there were.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Tyrus Four wrote: DUST Fiend must have pushed a button or two here. interesting. I know right, it's entertaining but stuff like this really wastes threads. I don't see why it's so hard for people to actually engage in a discussion. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know this guy? Apparently he's killed me before but I've never noticed him at the top of any boards or anything. Those of you on here that are good, what's your take on his skills? Your only argument against strafing is that it should effect stamina. We are super soldiers and my grandma can sidestep faster then the scout suit in this build. I am not going to start a proper debate with someone who fails at logic. You have no valid point. If we can sprint across the map we should be able to sidestep in a healthy manner. Your argument holds no weight so don't try and act like you are trying to engage in a legit discussion. I know I am rude but I have little patience for idiots and scrubs. If walking doesn't effect stamina then why should sidestepping. Fail harder. Seriously you fail so hard and try and act all high and mighty. Get real. can your grandma shoot a scoped-in rifle with perfect accuracy while running/strafing at full speed and jumping every couple of steps? she seems like quite the commando.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:29:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: I just find it funny that the people that are against strafe speeds are always the worst players in game. It says a lot about what certain people want from this game. People want ccp to constantly hold their hands and make the game easy. With all the fanboys of using cover and camping I am starting to think that all eve players are closet CoD fanboys in hiding. I'm not actually against it at all. I'm indifferent. I'm enjoying the game regardless. the whining from the whiny, crying, entitled, spoiled little girls in this forum is what gets on my nerves, tbh. says a lot about what certain people want from this game. people want CCP to make it so they are never able to be hit and make the game easy. with all the fanboys of running and gunning in the middle of an open field and strafe dancing all day, i am starting to think that all DUST haters are halo fanboys in hiding. GUNGAME(tm). COVER IS FOR KITTENS! SO ARE OBJECTIVES! TEAM DEATHMATCH IN A BIG EMPTY DESERT FOREVER!

Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 03:42:00 - [11] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaY2QYVcYkA
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:13:00 - [12] - Quote you know what, this game will suck no matter what they do to the strafe speed.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:18:00 - [13] - Quote Next Build. Dust will resemble the knife fight at the end of the Beat It video and all the "Competitive 1vs1 duelers" will be so happy. and no one will play any real matches cause everyone will be too busy doing their Competitive 1vs1 duels to see who has the most GUNGAME(tm) aka who can run in a circle better. 1vs1 for the win! epic!
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:34:00 - [14] - Quote just tired of arguing about it. I think the speed is fine. i don't think the game is slow at all. but obviously everyone else playing things that we are reduced to walking and crawling and can't move while firing at all. just bring on the next build already, so we can find new things to whine about. hopefully they raise the strafe speed really high so all the GUNGAME(tm) Professional FPSers stop crying about it.