Are you talking about people defending the supply depot in Ambush? I honestly don't run into many campers, but I mainly play skirmish and people don't seem to defend letters at all there.

When you're done using your half a ton mechanical suit, you should let me test it out too. It takes much more energy and control to strafe side to side (at a speed) without totally throwing off your balance, which is typically seen as a bad thing.

Oh, and for you idiots that yell "campers". It's called holding ground, and it's strategic. I'm sorry you want to be able to disco dance all across the map in roving bands of two stepping nomads, but this game should be about rewarding intelligent tactical decisions, such as holding your ground at a tactical position when you have the lead.

So, strafe sprint takes high amounts of stamina, partly as a balancing act, partly because causing your suit to quickly strafe to one side would require the suit to accommodate for the sudden shift in balance (again, if we're talking about strafe speeds faster than what we have right now) If we allow people to shoot during this fast burst, that would further add to the stamina needed. Remember that the weapons we're firing are so powerful, they would shatter bones, or straight up kill any wielder that isn't in one of these suits.

There's more at play than meets the eye.

People will come up with any reasoning they can find to be against the strafe speed. The truth is you can't aim and you want this game made easy for you. Get good.

To bad you can't buy gun game with all that AUR.

You're right, I can't aim, that's why I use a shotgun and I do just fine for myself. The fact is, you don't present any argument as to WHY disco level strafing is a good thing. You just argue off of the assumption that it's the only way to go, while offering nothing but deflecting troll posts when it comes to your defense.

This has nothing to do with "aiming", you want to play wack a mole in space with guns.



::facepalms with a tired groan::

I can barely buy food for my daughter, the last thing I'm buying is AUR. Please, continue to dazzle us with your intelligent and meaningful banter, it's truly enlightening for us.

The player count drop says it all. Garbage build is garbage and the numbers speak for them self. We have corp battles, player corps and other cool feature and less people are playing.

We are super soldiers. If we can sprint across the map then we should be able to sidestep faster then my grandma.

People will come up with any reasoning they can find to be against the strafe speed. The truth is you can't aim and you want this game made easy for you. That or you have never played a good fps and you have low expectations so you think this build is fun.

Oh i'm being tactical I'm using cover. No you are not you are camping behind a rock dumbass. If you are using cover then you are behind something hiding like a little ***** that can't aim.

To bad you can't buy gun game with all that AUR.

You have so much to learn.

Anyways, part of the player drop is because this build is buggy, just in general. A big part of it is that a lot of us have been here for a long time, and it's kind of just more of the same, so it's lost some of its enamor. Part of it is that a huge wave of invites went out, lots of people accepted, and then people went on about their lives. Not everyone is amped to sit through a beta that could fry their ps3, or send it flying out of a window after 2 hours of lag and crashes.

Every post you make, serves to further prove that you actually have no idea what you're talking about, in regards to anything. Please, make your next post useful, so that way we can actually have a discussion instead of throwing crap at each other like apes.

LoL this scrub can't aim.^^

Why is that whenever I see one of the people that are against strafe speeds in game they are garbage. I have played against you. You are trash. Its no wonder you like this game easy. Maybe you should go play CoD if you like slow strafe speeds and "tactical" games where people camp.

Its people like you that are trying to ruin the original vision that ccp had for this game.


PLEASE CCP KEEP STRAFING NERFED THIS GAME IS ALREADY TO HARD.

Do you know what Ad Hominem is? Do you know what respectable debaters consider it to do to your credibility? Look it up bro.

lol whatever scrub. I am gonna laugh when they buff strafe speed and you start crying.

Quoted for those of you that can see how wonderful this quote is.

Awwww my edit came after he edited his post, that makes this quote much less epic =_=

DUST Fiend must have pushed a button or two here.

interesting.

I know right, it's entertaining but stuff like this really wastes threads. I don't see why it's so hard for people to actually engage in a discussion. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know this guy? Apparently he's killed me before but I've never noticed him at the top of any boards or anything. Those of you on here that are good, what's your take on his skills?

I started with Precursor.

I know right, it's entertaining but stuff like this really wastes threads. I don't see why it's so hard for people to actually engage in a discussion. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know this guy? Apparently he's killed me before but I've never noticed him at the top of any boards or anything. Those of you on here that are good, what's your take on his skills?

Was that the first or second build? I came in on the second, I remember raging hard at BAD FURRY and his damn swarm launcher scout lmao

Your argument holds no weight so don't try and act like you are trying to engage in a legit discussion.

I have little patience for idiots.

Precursor was the build before this one.

i dunno how many previous builds there were.

Your only argument against strafing is that it should effect stamina. We are super soldiers and my grandma can sidestep faster then the scout suit in this build. I am not going to start a proper debate with someone who fails at logic. You have no valid point.

If we can sprint across the map we should be able to sidestep in a healthy manner. Your argument holds no weight so don't try and act like you are trying to engage in a legit discussion.


I know I am rude but I have little patience for idiots and scrubs.

If walking doesn't effect stamina then why should sidestepping. Fail harder.

Seriously you fail so hard and try and act all high and mighty. Get real.

she seems like quite the commando.

I just find it funny that the people that are against strafe speeds are always the worst players in game. It says a lot about what certain people want from this game. People want ccp to constantly hold their hands and make the game easy.


With all the fanboys of using cover and camping I am starting to think that all eve players are closet CoD fanboys in hiding.

I'm not actually against it at all. I'm indifferent. I'm enjoying the game regardless.

the whining from the whiny, crying, entitled, spoiled little girls in this forum is what gets on my nerves, tbh.

says a lot about what certain people want from this game. people want CCP to make it so they are never able to be hit and make the game easy.

GUNGAME(tm).

Increasing strafe speeds only makes the game harder for people who can't aim. They will adapt and they will love it though. It will raise the game play for experienced player vs experienced player. Back when I was playing scout me and Regnum had the most epic 1 vs 1. Epic like you wouldn't believe. Now that fun aspect is gone and now we just stare at each other and hold R1. Whoever has the better gear on wins. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAME.

This isn't about the elites wanting the game easy for them. The game will always be easy for them. People just want this game to be fun fast paced adrenaline filled gunfights we used to have.

Its hard to explain to people that weren't around back then and it frustrates me that people want to debate the issue when they don't really know what they are talking about.

I can feel you on wanting the game to be a bit faster pace, there's no argument there. Saying that cover is just for campers doesn't make any sense though, because this is a game that by its nature, supports using cover, thanks to shields and armor repairers. I can applaud your skills if you're up there with Regnum and the crew, congrats. It doesn't change the fact that you should be punished for dancing around in the open.

Perhaps what they should do is increase strafe speed again, but add in slight acceleration, and if you change direction mid strafe, that is what consumes a big chunk of stamina, and requires a slight pause as you stop, gain your footing, and push off in the opposite direction. Also, I'm not sure how the turn rate of suits plays into this, so that may or may not have to be upped accordingly as you add in more and more strafing.

Perhaps they could consider adding a "strafe sprint" that consumes a lot of stamina quickly, but gives you a burst of speed while strafing, though you would be unable to shoot, just like normal sprinting. Aside from that, the pace is actually quite good now.

I'd also like to point you to THIS thread, which just discusses the following:

• Dodge - Allow running while strafing (and list strafe speeds in suit statistics along with turning speeds).
• Duck - Switching back and forth between a normal run and a low profile run with crouch.
• Dip - Low profile run (use run command while crouched, disables jump and forces a roll or a tumble at the end of the run before stopping - can only be used when running forward).
• Dive -Tumble or Roll to end a normal run (while running press the crouch button).
• Dodge - Jumping while running with strafe causes the user to launch into sideways jump rather than a vertical jump.

Back when I was playing scout me and Regnum had the most epic 1 vs 1. Epic like you wouldn't believe. Now that fun aspect is gone and now we just stare at each other and hold R1. Whoever has the better gear on wins. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAME.