Then I suggest, and this will go against everything CCP has built so far, make all the weapons projectile based. Forget fancy futuristic weapons, lets revert back to brass and lead, and get CCP to take real world weapon descriptions then we can be just like all these other FPS games. There's your recoil, then all this bickering and blah, blah, blah can stop.

Then I suggest, and this will go against everything CCP has built so far, make all the weapons projectile based. Forget fancy futuristic weapons, lets revert back to brass and lead, and get CCP to take real world weapon descriptions then we can be just like all these other FPS games. There's your recoil, then all this bickering and blah, blah, blah can stop.

Why...lore is irrelevant for balancing. I think you all just want to keep your pwnguns, just like you wanted to keep your solopwnmobiles, and use all these justifications just to keep your edge. A game should never have a gun that is better in every situation than the gun that is designed for that situation. An AR should be good in every situation, but inferior to the specialist gun.

AR should be better at long range than everything but the Sniper Rifle. Currently it is better than the SR.
AR should be better at mid range than everything but the HMG. Currently it is better than the HMG.
AR should be better at close range than everything but the Shotgun and maybe the SMG. Currently it is better than both.

The science argument is pretty weak, imho. You could come up with any futuristic idea that is within the realm of possibility to make your argument.. At the end of the day, it's a game. Balance trumps "science". It also trumps your idea of what will be possible in 100 years.

Why don't we remove other guns then?
AR is the only gun we need , saves CCP time.

op:

go play cod.

the whole game has is about finding your balance.

you get merced by an AR, then YOU are doing something wrong.

not the ar guy.


don't nerf it. don't nerf anything.

actually BUFF every weapon every time someone asks for a nerf.

"wahhhhhhhh i tried to kill an assault guy with my sniper rifle and he won, so the AR is op"


op = ovaries got bruised

Peace
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why?

I don't see why this is an important issue...

People in this thread have complained that the AR is a jack of all trades weapon. Which it is in real life. It can be good for CQC, LRQ, and suppressive fire, and more. The only thing it's not good at is AV.

Lol. To call it OP is really stupid. It's a jack of all trades and will continue to be such. The other weapons are specific and are good what they do. I want someone to tell me that a Tactical Rifle can match the strength, range, and speed of a good Sniper Rifle. I want someone to tell me that in CQC, a shotgun doesn't have a better chance than a Burst Rifle to demolish the enemies armor and shield. I want someone to tell me that a Heavy Machine Gun can't rip through someone faster than a Breach Rifle. Hell.

Seriously? The Assault Rifle will always be a jack of trade because it's a flexible weapon for flexible troops that commit to the frontline.

I easily can take out people with my basic sniper rifle...

And sometimes I EVEN prefer to use my handgun to deal with a threat rather than my AR.

Oh please I can feel the fear all the way from here you are all QQ about the only gun you could get kills with nerfed
This is important it makes other guns useless same with missile launchers.

they do have recoil.. it only recoils up tho and not diagnal (BF3).. still, it is recoil

A day one player should have the same power of gun as a year long player.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but we're talking about DUST here. If you can't level up your gun because it's unfair, then you shouldn't be able to level up armor upgrades and shields either. And if you think having an equipment advantage because you've played longer is unfair, then you should go play CS.

Ultimately, your proposal would unravel the whole progression system of DUST which imo is neither a feasible nor advisable choice. One of the issue for new players in the beta is that there isn't a large enough player pool. There will be matchmaking at launch for pub matches. Right now there aren't enough players to effectively match players.

Patience young one, and calm your knocking knees. The AR menace won't be a menace for long.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but we're talking about DUST here. If you can't level up your gun because it's unfair, then you shouldn't be able to level up armor upgrades and shields either. And if you think having an equipment advantage because you've played longer is unfair, then you should go play CS.

Ultimately, your proposal would unravel the whole progression system of DUST which imo is neither a feasible nor advisable choice. One of the issue for new players in the beta is that there isn't a large enough player pool. There will be matchmaking at launch for pub matches. Right now there aren't enough players to effectively match players.

Patience young one, and calm your knocking knees. The AR menace won't be a menace for long.

True, but I still don't understand how upgrading a "skill" improves gun damage.

True, but I still don't understand how upgrading a "skill" improves gun damage.