i am 34 retired loads of mony nice house in the countryside got there fast like a HARE not a rabbit they live underground don't ya know

You are not 34.
Your education level is lower than what you pretend.
The house in the Countryside is not as represented.
England.

I feel like Custer, no Indians, just idiots.

People like the feeling of progression.


If you make leveling or progression to difficult people will be turned off from the game As it will feel like a tedious mind numbing grind.

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Dueling banjos is playing in my head right now.

Ya what he said... I dont want to play a game where im held back with regulation.. im playing this game because I want to escape real life for a bit and have some fun in a fake world where I have some control. Im sure this is why we all play.

Dust514.. dont hold us back from our potential.. we like the opportunity in front of us for more SP

You just need to match players with like players... noob battles vs hardcore battles. It would be like that in a real war for a planet. The corps are not going to send in a bunch of lame fighters to take over a planet or something if the other corp has war hardened masters. I dont like going 22 and 4 anyways.. its boring taking out 5 noobs in under a min.

sp needs to be released into the wild. The sp points should be rewarded like on a scale for various things.. bullets in the face or head or chest = more sp. Depending on the gun, more sp for distance from the guy.. like if your taking a guy out with a submachine gun at X amount of distance you have skill thus you get more sp for the kill. If you have a sniper rifle and your hecka far from the gent you get more sp. idk what type of model you have created for the skill point reward calculations but it should be rather complex.

A lot of people in the Dust community are focusing too much on the SP progression and not enough on the player progression in and of itself. Conquering planets, turning tides, making wars, etc. See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqAGSN7ev0k

I see a thread!

There's going to be a devblog on how the skill system changed, but here's the gist of it:

We noticed in the past few months that having the diminishing returns on a 24-hour cycle had some downsides to it. It forced players to log in every day in order to not lose out on skill gain and consequently made e.g. taking a break quite difficult. Simply put, we felt that things were a bit too intense. As a short-term measure to combat this, we made it so that the diminishing returns to reset every seven days instead of every 24 hours. This should allow players to choose when to play without feeling stressed out about jumping in every day (although you can do just that as well). A reasonable amount of game time each week should allow you to earn all the points you can and keep up with the more hardcore players. Overall pacing of the progression should remain somewhat intact, since we also rebalanced overall skill costs down a bit to match the new active skill gain speed.

As far as Boosters go, they will continue to work as they used to and will give you 50% more active SPs per week. They won't make you hit the cap faster.

Finally, the per-week skill caps are per character, so if you're hardcore, you can grind on your other characters if your main hits the cap.

This was a change that was fairly easy to make and it makes things much more convenient for people who don't have time to jump in and exhaust their daily quota every day.

That said, we don't think the system is perfect as it is. As many of you point out, having a cap you can hit per week is not optimal, since you stop being rewarded from playing the game. We have been discussing better solutions, but they all require more development resources than we had available. A potential future solution would be system that features a pool of redeemable SP that fills up passively at a constant rate. You would earn points from that pool by fighting in battles. Once the pool is empty, you would have to wait for a while for it to fill up again (or earn just the tiny amount that you accrued into the pool while you were in battle).

What we put in now is by no means the final iteration on the system, so I encourage you to give feedback and keep posting. That's the way to get what you desire.

Oh and Cerebral Wolf, pull you head out of your arse please. If you've got nothing better to comment than troll posts, watch the door on your arse on the way out. Thank you.

Well considering i've been pretty much on the money every time i've predicted something i clearly do know what i'm talking about. You've clearly missed the posts with links to my XBL profile with my FPS "GUN GAME" on it that proves i know my way around a FPS better than quite a few people.

It just so happens i play EVE too so i've got a pretty good idea where they are taking the game.

If you don't like that, tough ****.

The best system would be to not cap it. There is no reason to reward players that don't play. You're already giving passive SPs out...that should be enough.

If guys want to compete...you have to play. Its the only way

How many subs does EvE have anyway?, 9000'ish?. A fraction of those I bet are even bothered about Dust, combine that with all the FPS fans here stating that this will upset the general player base and your not gonna have many people playing it for very long imo.

I've played pretty much EVERY MMO out there and I wouldn't even dare compare this to CoD or EvE.....


One is Battleground Europe (WW2 Online). I've no idea how this works and from what I hear it's not that great a game anyway. I tried the trial and it just wasn't up to much.

Another is Planetside on PC, which again you obviously haven't played or else you'd see your comments are full of crap. They never had to cap XP, new players didn't feel left behind and the whole game was about controlling territory, (I put that in there because you like throwing that in as an argument for this and frankly it's a joke.) It's also the ONLY true MMOFPS out there, the only other is it's sequel that's in development.

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So you've played some ****** 360 FPS games?, I'm supposed to believe that makes you able to comment on a MMOFPS or rather an MMORPG that you play from a FPS perspective?. I've played pretty much EVERY MMO out there and I wouldn't even dare compare this to CoD or EvE.

As far as I'm concerned there are only 2-3 games in existance that do this kind of game and none of them are on the xbox.

One is Battleground Europe (WW2 Online). I've no idea how this works and from what I hear it's not that great a game anyway. I tried the trial and it just wasn't up to much.

Another is Mag on PS3 and the skill system there is pretty identical to this game. New player don't get their arse kicked and there's zero cap. No territory to capture as such, but you got bonuses if your team was winning a particular game mode.

Another is Planetside on PC, which again you obviously haven't played or else you'd see your comments are full of crap. They never had to cap XP, new players didn't feel left behind and the whole game was about controlling territory, (I put that in there because you like throwing that in as an argument for this and frankly it's a joke.) It's also the ONLY true MMOFPS out there, the only other is it's sequel that's in development.

We've not tested anything yet that involves territory control in EvE and you really think it'll be in release?. I think your kidding yourself frankly, what people will want to do is get on and kill stuff at launch. It's an FPS after all that happens to tap into EvE.

CCP aren't just gonna drop territory control on Dust then unleash it on TQ. They'd be insane. If it was actually coming at release we'd of been testing it for 6 months now at least.

What we have now is a mediocre FPS game with a half finished meta game and zero connections with EvE other than chatting and calling in OS. You really think if the game launched like this people would stick around?. The average gamer will need something to drive them to progress. All your EvE comparisons just don't work, it's a different kind of player completely in general and a totally different game.

Shut the hell up!

Put your boots on the ground, and go fight for your corp.

All this crying. I this, I that.

Its not about the individual. Its about the Corp., and the universe that Dust 514 is being put into...the long term.

Noone has even played a day under the new SP set up, let alone a week. To much BS not enough Mercs.

Nothing is set is stone.

I see a thread!

There's going to be a devblog on how the skill system changed, but here's the gist of it:

We noticed in the past few months that having the diminishing returns on a 24-hour cycle had some downsides to it. It forced players to log in every day in order to not lose out on skill gain and consequently made e.g. taking a break quite difficult. Simply put, we felt that things were a bit too intense. As a short-term measure to combat this, we made it so that the diminishing returns to reset every seven days instead of every 24 hours. This should allow players to choose when to play without feeling stressed out about jumping in every day (although you can do just that as well). A reasonable amount of game time each week should allow you to earn all the points you can and keep up with the more hardcore players. Overall pacing of the progression should remain somewhat intact, since we also rebalanced overall skill costs down a bit to match the new active skill gain speed.

As far as Boosters go, they will continue to work as they used to and will give you 50% more active SPs per week. They won't make you hit the cap faster.

Finally, the per-week skill caps are per character, so if you're hardcore, you can grind on your other characters if your main hits the cap.

I've stated in my posts that things are speculation on my part, why is that hard to get across to some people?

you got a real pretty mouth do't ya squeal piggy look forward to killing you over and over IFyou get time to play