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Posted - 2012.09.30 09:39:00 -
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So I'm guessing ccp's estimate of 7yrs has now gone to roughly 21yrs.
I have never seen a game where you get penalised for liking a game and wanting to play it.
This is gonna make dust popular is it ?
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Posted - 2012.09.30 09:53:00 -
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Just thought this is a good thing, I just hit the cap in a day then I have the rest of the week to play something else. 
CCP game fix..............Think bull...............Think china shop...............Job done. |
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Posted - 2012.09.30 10:43:00 -
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HK-40 wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:So I'm guessing ccp's estimate of 7yrs has now gone to roughly 21yrs.
I have never seen a game where you get penalised for liking a game and wanting to play it.
I believe this is a big misconception. You are not playing a game in order to accumulate points, you are playing it because it's fun to play (if you're not I say you're doing it wrong). Not giving out more than x SP per week doesn't take away anything from the gameplay and hence from the fun of playing the game. By earning points, people like to think they get 'rewarded' for playing a game, while in reality the game just dangles a carrot in front of their noses the whole time. Then when the game suddenly removes this carrot, people feel 'penalized' for playing. That thinking simply doesn't make sense to me. Exactly, think EVE. Online or offline you earn exactly the same XP per second/minute/hour etc. People play that game like they are crack addicts. Its more about ISK for them than XP (as someone who played on and off from 2005-2012).
Problem is, this aint eve, this was supposed to be ccp branching out to capture a new area of the market, the fps console fans.
FPS console gamers will not be getting dust expecting it to be eve on ps3, they will expect an fps tied into eve. |
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Posted - 2012.09.30 11:07:00 -
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Ad ski wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:So I'm guessing ccp's estimate of 7yrs has now gone to roughly 21yrs.
I have never seen a game where you get penalised for liking a game and wanting to play it.
I believe this is a big misconception. You are not playing a game in order to accumulate points, you are playing it because it's fun to play (if you're not I say you're doing it wrong). Not giving out more than x SP per week doesn't take away anything from the gameplay and hence from the fun of playing the game. By earning points, people like to think they get 'rewarded' for playing a game, while in reality the game just dangles a carrot in front of their noses the whole time. Then when the game suddenly removes this carrot, people feel 'penalized' for playing. That thinking simply doesn't make sense to me. I got laughed at for mentioning the playing for fun, didn't you know you play to win here or so I was told . Fun has no part in games any more Have you ever thought that for some people ranking up is fun? I like seeing how fast I can rank up etc and if I want to stop I can use an alt account etc. Taking away that choice from players is not a smart move. As for the guy saying about the fun of the game, lets be honest here as a FPS it's mediocre at best, the levelling system makes it interesting, take away that system or nerf the **** out of it, what do you have left? Just a average shooter if that. If people truly are playing for fun they shouldn't care how fast someone else has levelled up, besides isn't the whole matchmaking system supposed to stop a crappy player in militia gear playing against a good player in higher end gear? If so what's your guys problem?
^^^This. Thanks for saying all that, I couldn't be bothered. |
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:14:00 -
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Fun has no part in games any more [/quote]
Have you ever thought that for some people ranking up is fun? I like seeing how fast I can rank up etc and if I want to stop I can use an alt account etc. Taking away that choice from players is not a smart move. As for the guy saying about the fun of the game, lets be honest here as a FPS it's mediocre at best, the levelling system makes it interesting, take away that system or nerf the **** out of it, what do you have left? Just a average shooter if that. If people truly are playing for fun they shouldn't care how fast someone else has levelled up, besides isn't the whole matchmaking system supposed to stop a crappy player in militia gear playing against a good player in higher end gear? If so what's your guys problem?[/quote]
^^^This. Thanks for saying all that, I couldn't be bothered.[/quote]
icecream i can understand why you dont like the cap system since you are a player that has exploited the lack of a cap in this build to artificially inflate your SP total by crashing a lav then repair then repeat. it also means all players will be on a more even playing field as to SP so you will lose your SP advantage you gained in this build with nefariuos methods. so the one skill you have mastered of being able to repair your own LAV that YOU crashed no longer is important in the new build.
As far as this somehow taking away the grind i totally disagree. there is no cap on ISK earned or on salvage or on war points so there are many other things to grind. this system accomplishes so many things and is a simple elegant solution to many problems like sp boosting and casual versus hardcore gamers sp spread etc.[/quote]
Yup that's correct, well done. All those thousands of kills over the last eight months were all because I spent 1 week exploiting a loophole in the beta.
As W.Churchill said. '' Never has so much been owed by so many to so few.'' |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:08:00 -
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Too intense ?
Take a break ?
Yeah maybe I should go play Tiger Woods instead of an FPS. |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:22:00 -
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D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:I like this 7 day cycle, i took a break from this build for a couple of day and i lost nearly 2+ MIL SP, which is quite a bit. Good job CCP!
You lost 2+ million SP ???
Did you try looking down the side of your sofa ? |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:55:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Tyas Borg wrote:I really don't get this BS with punishing the players who actually play the game and being all carebear about it.
In 6 months it'll be totally irrelevant when everyone's had 6 months advance on the new guys. What then CCP?, are you gonna remove SP from the loyal players every 6 months to keep them from being too far ahead of the new guys?
This system is the worst idea you could possibly do. The old one was bad, but this is just beyond stupid.
The idea is to make people play your game and not punish your loyal player base for actually playing, are you that blind to not see how stupid this idea is??
FPS players in general are far more fickle than I'd bet most EvE players are. Your dealing with short attention spans and the need for instant gratification on the whole. Removing the constant progression just doesn't make sense to keep people interested in the game.
Your basically saying "Times up this week guys, go play something else for a few days". That's not how you keep your player base playing tbh. Then go beta test another game and give me your stuff before you leave.
@wolf jr
You absolutely have to be an EVEtard.
I'll take your stuff scrub. |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:05:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:CCP Nothin wrote:This was a change that was fairly easy to make and it makes things much more convenient for people who don't have time to jump in and exhaust their daily quota every day.
That said, we don't think the system is perfect as it is. As many of you point out, having a cap you can hit per week is not optimal, since you stop being rewarded from playing the game. We have been discussing better solutions, but they all require more development resources than we had available. A potential future solution would be system that features a pool of redeemable SP that fills up passively at a constant rate. You would earn points from that pool by fighting in battles. Once the pool is empty, you would have to wait for a while for it to fill up again (or earn just the tiny amount that you accrued into the pool while you were in battle).
What we put in now is by no means the final iteration on the system, so I encourage you to give feedback and keep posting. That's the way to get what you desire. That sounds exactly like what i suggested in the feedback forum and i really do think that would fit the game perfectly. Yes, but you're not taking into account all of the instant gratification, flashing lights and loud noises that the FPS community seemingly -cannot live without-. I'm not entirely sure what the big deal is considering that these guys have never had an FPS that gave out skill points as a reward rather than another gun. When you reach a certain level in Call of Duty you just go into the "prestige" non-sense so that'll really go to show you just how ADD the players really are when they simply -can't stop earning something- even though it's mundane and doesn't provide any benefit in the game itself. Maybe we should just come up with a system that gives silly trinkets or something to appeal to them so they're too busy earning Callsigns (<--- CoD) to notice the MMO balancing of the game.
I love how EVEtards try and sound like they know what they're talking about when talking about FPS games and players. |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:17:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:omg you must live under a rock Oh look boys and girls - yet another troll with nothing beneficial to say other than "we're being punished". Why? Because you just happen to have more hours in the day to grind your way to an advantage than someone with a job/family/place in society? Excellent argument - while we're at it let's just throw out skill points entirely to appeal directly to the self-aggrandizing FPS players and their entitlement issues. Give me a valid reason why this is a bad system in an -MMO- aspect and we can talk - otherwise you're just saying the same whining bull that everyone else is complaining about rather than.. I dunno... Offering a suggestion for a better system? Yanno, because that would make too much sense.
Have you ever played any kind of FPS before EVE boy.?
Go play one then you may have some idea of what you're taliking about.
This is NOT EVE for ps3. |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:32:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:omg you must live under a rock Oh look boys and girls - yet another troll with nothing beneficial to say other than "we're being punished". Why? Because you just happen to have more hours in the day to grind your way to an advantage than someone with a job/family/place in society? Excellent argument - while we're at it let's just throw out skill points entirely to appeal directly to the self-aggrandizing FPS players and their entitlement issues. Give me a valid reason why this is a bad system in an -MMO- aspect and we can talk - otherwise you're just saying the same whining bull that everyone else is complaining about rather than.. I dunno... Offering a suggestion for a better system? Yanno, because that would make too much sense. Have you ever played any kind of FPS before EVE boy.? Go play one then you may have some idea of what you're taliking about. This is NOT EVE for ps3. And neither is it a kind of FPS that you have played on PS3, so you are both wrong. Honestly who the **** cares which area of gaming you came from, blah blah FPS, blah blah EVE nerd. If you enjoy the game play it. Seriously stop all the whining give constructive criticism & offer ideas, preferably good ones. On saying that don't assume any of you know better than any one else because you are ' sooo awesome ' at whatever other games you play. . . RANT OVER, have fun
I care, because this forum is over run with EVE idiots who think they know what they are talking about.
It's blatantly obvious to anyone who does, they don't. |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:36:00 -
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Woohoooo, we got a bounty. I feel like Jesse James.
In other words, could care less and will shoot you in the face and take your stuff.  |
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:36:00 -
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I feel like Custer, no Indians, just idiots. |
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