I love what u guys did with the tank turrets those were great made tyhem more specilized but av are too powerfull 1 guy can take out a tank that shouldnt be done it should take 2 or more railgunners or it should take a good amount of swarms from multiple players not soloing a tank

Just tried dropships there ******* paper bags now

If you can pwn people solo with your tank, people should be able to pwn you solo as well. Should've been rolling with infantry support to screen your tank against AV.

It shouldnt be able to do that and honestly people got powned cause they walked straight up to a tank to try and kill it close and personal a swarm unit needs to sit far away or u can fit it to a assult ship and use gurrila warfare tatics ive done it u just cant give a tank a clean shot a railgunner needs to hit the tank from behind not walk straight into its gun honestly people were talking tatics not spray and pray. Av did need a little buff except for swarms they needed a nerf but this is to far

If you can pwn people solo with your tank, people should be able to pwn you solo as well. Should've been rolling with infantry support to screen your tank against AV.

A tank also aint suppose to be able to get soloed by a swarm launcher or some guy with a forge gun thats rediculous its a godam tank look into the history of tanks they were made to be impermiable literaly the scourge of enemy infantry do. Think 1 guy with an rpg takes on a tank and wins by standing in the open hell no it normally takes multiple shots un u ditching behind cover as to avoid gettng ur ass shot not standing in the open people didnt play the av role smart prepatch so they got there asses handed to them now its no tatics no skill to deal with a tank where as befor if a tank driver lost his tank he was angry but proud of the enemy soldiers for playing correctl and not running around spraying and praying lik cod has us trained to do in first person shooters. Now the role of av is easily sad

Tank costs alot more in ISK and SP investment than Standard swarm launchers.

A Forge Gun is essentially a blaster turret taken off an incursus frigare and put into a heavy's hands. A frigate is basically the size of a boeing 747 with armor plates strapped to it (meaning: bigger than the tank). So yes, forge guns should be able to take down tanks. Not easily, but it should be possible.

Keep in mind: only that one class of suit with a specific class of weapon can do it (ok, 2 classes of weapons because of swarms), and if he does, he's leaving himself open to Assault suits and Scouts. Heavies are slow enough to get downed before even getting to their target provided the opposing team isn't playing "Bunch of soloers that happen to have the same objective".

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? It took an entire squad of guys with proto and advanced gear and perfect coordination to take down one guy camping in a tank who could just take off at any time he chose to rep. That's ridiculously overpowered. A tank could literally walk across a map unsupported fearing nothing except another tank, that's not how tanks are supposed to operate.

if you've been in the army... then you actualy know that is EXACTLY how tanks operate.

I have, so something on the lines of needing at least 3-4 persons to operate?
1. Gunner 2. Driver. 3. Commander. 4. Loader.

Oh it's probably worth to mention how tank can be rendered immobile by single well placed explosive and how single well shot AV-weapon can penetrate the shield and BBQ the whole freaking crew.

Oh and the FOV for the crew inside the tank isn't that great, well except maybe for the gunner who is outside and can easily be shot by infantry.


But anything that doesn't require a team to operate shouldn't take a team or even a squad to take down. Single person with correct equipment should be more than enough.

Argument for the above: Because otherwise there would be no reason to spec to anything else.

People r mising the point completely now a tank should not be killed by a single infantry standing in the middle of the road u people have reversed the roles now infantry are the tanks and tanks are ****

the turret how they are now are great they got specialized to being eather anti infantry or anti vehicle how it should be.

av was buffed way to much a tank can only take 3 shots from a forge gunner and im talking hevily buffed marader that just absorbs dmg like a spounge take in acount of the rate of fire there is way to much dps a forge gunner is to powerfull even if he gets 1 shotted buy the tank hes killed the tank befor the tank can turn the gun. This is to much a forge gunner should be able to kill a tank but not by himself there should be atleast 2 mabey 3 forgegunners to take out a tank.

swarms oh my god swarms i can sit on a hil and pumble a vehicle no matter what it is from the otherside of the map then swarms are ******* powerful 1 swarmer can kill a lav easy, a dropship has to constently run for its life because it cant just dodge the swarms and a tank falls to swarms as quickly as it falls to forgers holy cow u want to talk overpowered a swarm has ben since the beginning they need to dumb down the missils ability to trackto the point it dify physics the need to lower the dmg if its ganna stay fire and forget, and they need to reduce the dam near unlimited fuel capacity for such a tiny missile.

grendes im happy with so far as for everything else

Now really people if u think im trolling or im just trying to make tanks overpowered search me up hell i give ccp permission to post screanshots of all my details including characters what skills each character has fits and other **** like that and they may post recording of my battles to show everyone im not trying to overpower tanks im a dropship pilot an overpowered tank makes no diffrence to me my gunners will still kill it while i dodge the bullits im just trying to mak the entire game balanced and give all vehicles and dropssuits a balanced role im not making this game cod where u can spray and pray and ull get 20 kills no im making this game dust514 a game where every asspect requires stratigy among players weather its operating a tank killing a tank or killing other infantry or takeing objectives or ding 1 of numerous other things u may do

THIS I DUST514 A SQUAD BASED GAME 3 PEOPLE MINIMUM TO DO ANY TASK THAT IS MY GOAL

Swarms and Forge-guns are Anti-vechicle weapons, the users sacrifice a lot of their anti-infantry potential to wield such beastly av-weapons.

It's too bad if your team lacks the people and the skill to take down AV-infantry before they destroy your tank. Team work people, or are you telling me that "Tank drivers cannot in to team work?"

People r mising the point completely now a tank should not be killed by a single infantry standing in the middle of the road u people have reversed the roles now infantry are the tanks and tanks are ****

if you've been in the army... then you actualy know that is EXACTLY how tanks operate.

Tank costs alot more in ISK and SP investment than Standard swarm launchers.

Only going to say this tanks should be powerful enough to stand on their own, they should be used as a mobile death reaper and should be feared that's the point of a tank. Tanks should not be able to be solo killed unless they get a massive drop and your right to say a good place explosive should stop it but that's point of shields to prevent that. Any way the tanks should be hard to kill mainly because its a bloody tank. I'm sorry you shouldn't expect to kill a tank will a rock. A M1\A2 Abrams main battle tank has been record to have survived 25 RPG hits with a busted tread(Sorry if I am wrong about the number but it was a hellish high amount). The tank alone was able to make it back to base. So you guys are saying that you should be able to solo a tank BS. That is such a laughter. Yea you should be able to solo LAV easily but not HAV. You should need a Team to take out a skilled tank Pilot. The only tanks that should be easily taken out are the soma and sicas. I know people are going to rage on me or say bs but come on, think logically, do you think a tank should be easily taken out by a solo when the pilot has spec his tank on fire power and defense. Remember that the higher the tier you go up the better the equipment should be mean the better the tank the person gets the harder it should be to kill. Same goes with everything else but Tanks should be something that is much more powerful if spec correctly and harder to kill.

P.S. Before responding don't see it in your own view but in the view of a tank pilot and how he work his hardest to get where he is at.

If you can pwn people solo with your tank, people should be able to pwn you solo as well. Should've been rolling with infantry support to screen your tank against AV.

if it takes one man to drive and shoot a tank, then I don't see a problem if it takes a man in a fat heavy suit holding an oversized weapon twice his weight, to kill it.

Enuff said.


Edit: Also the comments from the previous commenter "At leased dropship has sped on their side..."

Has no idea what he is saying. Sure it has speed, but have you flown one? what good is speed if you have no where to run to?

I can speed all over the place in a dropship, doesn't do nothing if everyone can see you and shoot you down in one lock on.

HA INFANTRY ACTUALLY HELPING TANKS? WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING

HA INFANTRY ACTUALLY HELPING TANKS? WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING

Hobo-n-Guns shut up go and fly a dropship then come back really a dropship has speed and no tank but its suppose to be a troop carrier well with how the missils act once infantry start shooting at u u cant stop u have to keep moving cause swarms dont run out of fuel apparently and when they hit my own dropship can survive a maximum of 4 consecutive hits without giving reppers time to rep now tell me how thbe hell do i land without getting blown up as i can see dropships cant be trop transports because of this.

As for the tank issue everyone keeps saying it takes 1 person to pilot then it tankes 1 person to kill tell me where that happens anywhere else in game a dropship takes 1 person to kill but 3 people working togeather to pilot. A lav takes 2 to pilot but 1 to kill it. And as for assult suits its dependent on what u bring bu in most ocasions it takes 2 to kill someone without the other guy just barely escaping till someone places that last shot

Most of ur arguments are therefor void as its based around the idea it takes 1 to pilot should take 1 to kill please think of something else would ya and no because tanks were overpowered for three months pre patch doesnt support u

You would be able to manuver better if ccp would go back to the pre3 release. DS were troop carriers and some air support, they were not meant to be flying tanks. As for missiles locking on, all you have to do right now is just do "S" shaped manuvers and they hardly ever hit you.

It is sad i have to quote myself since you seem to have miss quoted me



For your information, I used to fly DS all the time until they screwed them up with P3, and I was always able to out fly missiles and was rarely hit except when I landed on a tower or the ground.

I love what u guys did with the tank turrets those were great made tyhem more specilized but av are too powerfull 1 guy can take out a tank that shouldnt be done it should take 2 or more railgunners or it should take a good amount of swarms from multiple players not soloing a tank

I havent even tried a dropship yet but i doubt ill be able to survive 1 hit from a swarm missile which is **** being as that gets rid o all our tanking powere which we didnt have much in the first place

if it takes one man to drive and shoot a tank, then I don't see a problem if it takes a man in a fat heavy suit holding an oversized weapon twice his weight, to kill it.

Enuff said.


Edit: Also the comments from the previous commenter "At leased dropship has sped on their side..."

Has no idea what he is saying. Sure it has speed, but have you flown one? what good is speed if you have no where to run to?

I can speed all over the place in a dropship, doesn't do nothing if everyone can see you and shoot you down in one lock on.

You would be able to manuver better if ccp would go back to the pre3 release. DS were troop carriers and some air support, they were not meant to be flying tanks. As for missiles locking on, all you have to do right now is just do "S" shaped manuvers and they hardly ever hit you.

This isn't about tanks- tanks are now closer to where they should be.

LAVs and dropships however, go down WAY too easily. People shouldn't be able to one-shot them.

A M1\A2 Abrams main battle tank has been record to have survived 25 RPG hits with a busted tread(Sorry if I am wrong about the number but it was a hellish high amount). The tank alone was able to make it back to base. So you guys are saying that you should be able to solo a tank BS.

so ...... realisticly how many missiles would it take to blow up a military tank?

If a militia tank is brought on the field a couple militia av guys will kill it a standard fit av will most likely solo it. If a standard is brought on the field militia will have a hard time, a standard fit well be abl to do it but unless theres more then 1 of u the tank will probaly kill u or be able to get away and have time to heal, a protofit av will have no proplem though it shouldnt be tol where hes a dumbass and walks right up to the main gun should still be some challenge. A marader well it should be a par with proto thats how i see this working

Ok so explain to me where teamwork is encompassed in ur version wolf ritter or better yet if my standard gear can kill proto level tanks why should i even buy proto gear when im 1 shotting proto level tanks please dude see how much more balance there is in my version and it still doesnt call for overpowered tanks

A tank also aint suppose to be able to get soloed by a swarm launcher or some guy with a forge gun thats rediculous its a godam tank look into the history of tanks they were made to be impermiable literaly the scourge of enemy infantry do. Think 1 guy with an rpg takes on a tank and wins by standing in the open hell no it normally takes multiple shots un u ditching behind cover as to avoid gettng ur ass shot not standing in the open people didnt play the av role smart prepatch so they got there asses handed to them now its no tatics no skill to deal with a tank where as befor if a tank driver lost his tank he was angry but proud of the enemy soldiers for playing correctl and not running around spraying and praying lik cod has us trained to do in first person shooters. Now the role of av is easily sad