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J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.19 11:28:00 - [61] - Quote You seem to be the same. You are okay with solo tanks dominating groups of players... Now, you have to be cautious, as do AV when facing. I call BS on the stories of killif Marauders with militia gear, I tried it with my entirely AV alt and if failed miserably. The only marauders getting killed by militia gear either had complete fail drivers or were ganged up on. I honestly think some people are flat out making stories up. I have 3 mil SP into swarms on my alt, and I only took down the shields on a Sagaris with a Advanced Swarm before it ran away out of range. I had tactical positioning, etc. So... Yeah... I don't buy it.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2012.09.19 13:51:00 - [62] - Quote wathak 514 wrote: A tank also aint suppose to be able to get soloed by a swarm launcher or some guy with a forge gun thats rediculous its a godam tank look into the history of tanks they were made to be impermiable literaly the scourge of enemy infantry do. Think 1 guy with an rpg takes on a tank and wins by standing in the open hell no it normally takes multiple shots un u ditching behind cover as to avoid gettng ur ass shot not standing in the open people didnt play the av role smart prepatch so they got there asses handed to them now its no tatics no skill to deal with a tank where as befor if a tank driver lost his tank he was angry but proud of the enemy soldiers for playing correctl and not running around spraying and praying lik cod has us trained to do in first person shooters. Now the role of av is easily sad They aren't unless the guy with the swarm launcher is good. You have to think that most people with swarm launchers will get killed easily by anyone who can halfway use an assault rifle. I feel that makes it fair for how 'well' they can take down tanks
Johnson McCrea Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2012.09.19 14:55:00 - [63] - Quote OMG! Ok, a tank without resists, shield boosters, armor reps, extenders or armor, is pretty much toast to Milita Swarmers. As they should be. I, however, drive a Sica (YES, Militia Tank), with the heaviest shield extender, shield booster, and Damage Control. It packs 2 minimal grade (non-militia) small missile turrets, and a 80GJ Rail main gun. I also have to use 2 15% PG boosters to fit this. I have a tad over 4000 shields, and enough boost to recover a third of that every 1.5mins. Current Swarm missiles do a base 300 damage each. Means a Militia launcher has a base of 1200dp each swarm. The DC reduces this to around 1000. It CAN survive 6 waves from him. But if he's standing on a nano hive, I'm toast. I didn't build a tank with heavy shield tank (I hate them). Advanced or prototype launchers do 1500/1800 respectively per wave. As you can guess, I try not to have my butt sitting where they can hit me that often. Remember, this is a Sica, it can't 'tank' that much. AV is now better against those Infinity tanks out there that have annoyed us since they were nerfed. Keep whining and they may be nerfed again. I use my tank (when I actually decide to drive it) as anti-vehicle: Dropships, LAVs, and the occasional enemy tank. The only infantry I usually shoot at are HAs with Forge guns, and swarm launchers. 1200dp on the main turret means I can make most things dead quickly, once I get the barrel facing the target. Sicas got the slowest turret turn of all tanks. So the AV units are a threat, but if the driver equips right, he can survive somewhat. The Uber tanks require squad AVs to take out as of yet, but they are no longer infinate damage sponges. BTW, before the Swarmers got nerfed, they did 350 damage per missile, after, 250. 300 is the 'partial un-nerfing' CCP did, prior to balancing the tanks to reduce the infini-damage sponges we all hate.


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