After the nerf to the suits there is no reason to skill in to an advanced let alone a proto type suit.

I understand they were testing the modules so the information is that the teir-II suit that is more heavy on shields is the only suit worth playing this build. I was able to get my shields to above 540 and my armor to 560. With the different modules this is the best fit of all three level suits.

The advantage of the advanced suit is the ability to have more cpu /pg and one more low slot however the armor upgrade is not enough of an advantage to properly use this suit for anything but a forge gun with armor upgrades because with the increase in armor plates your speed is ridiculously slow and makes this suit useless for any type of travel, so its a nice suicide suit to go after vehicles, don't expect to live the encounter.

The hmg guns were also nerfed for this build they seem to want us to be able to shoot long distance with this weapon not sure who cried for this? But we don't need it. I would rather have a wider spread so I can mow more effectively in close range.

As I specked up the sharpshooter skills it became evident quick that this is huge mistake, it tightens your spread and make you much less lethal at close range. Once again I will not do this again as it is a harmful skill to learn and no way to undo it.

I think they finaly got the overheat right it feels appropriate.

My suggestion is that we should be the tanks of infantry. Why so few high and low slots?
We are much more expensive to train into already 4,million sp for a proto suit

And my fits with weapons put me about 500,000 a load out. So this suit is useless to use cause it has no advantage to a teir -II suit.


The heavy role , needs to be re thought?

Well, if they are going to be nerfed as far as armor HP and not as effective in general, at least drop the SP/ISK required to use them. It's a little ridiculous that it cost SO much SP to get to advanced to just get one more low slot (unless I am mistaken) and a little more CPU/PG.

I would like to see a heavy suite buff, but I'm really doing pretty well right now. I use different suites for different occasions, but my bread and butter, favorite loadout is my heavy suite with a 'codewish' and a 'spitfire'. I win at long range shootouts with the tac ar, and I win at short range with the smg; only at medium ranges (just beyond smg range) the fit kinda leaves me wanting.

Yeah that is pretty much what I do, but it seems to work pretty well. Can't complain about being in the top 100 on the leaderboards or a 4.6 KDR.

get mechanics V
shield operation IV
shield upgrades IV
shield management IV

then put two complex shield extenders onto a type II heavy suit.

you'll be rolling around with like 500 shields on top of all that armor, and the shields regenerate A LOT faster.
just put a basic armor rep in the low

i'd also suggest getting electronics IV and maybe one or two points in heavy weapons upgrades, those two complex extenders eat a ton of cpu

How have you felt after the nerf? Have you run into more and more advanced suits and gear and getting owned in places you used to be able to stand your ground better?

get mechanics V
shield operation IV
shield upgrades IV
shield management IV

then put two complex shield extenders onto a type II heavy suit.

you'll be rolling around with like 500 shields on top of all that armor, and the shields regenerate A LOT faster.
just put a basic armor rep in the low

i'd also suggest getting electronics IV and maybe one or two points in heavy weapons upgrades, those two complex extenders eat a ton of cpu

I agree completely that the heavy needs to be restored to as it was in the previous build, but I have to ask, have you run with any logi's this build, because that tag team will destroy anything in its path from my own experience.

being new it sounds like before nerf the game was much more user friendly towards heavy dropsuits .
just starting out i rarely use heavy . because there are no upsides your just a big round bullet sponge

That sounds good, but the hmg is stupidly underpowered. I got the gun thinking I might have a chance against halo scouts, but that didn't work too well. Even basically spraying at point blank has, minimal results. The forge guns, they are interesting, but the reduced range from what people are saying it was in previous builds makes it minimally effective. Dunno if anyone agrees but im putting this out there as someone who has always done well in support roles, and is struggling with this suit.

here's a free tip, i'll charge for the rest;

with the hmg, wiggle your crosshair around the target, preferably in small but quick circular motions. Wax on, wax off, that kind of stuff.
it helps a little with the ****** hit detection by putting more S.O.T (sh!t on target)

TL;DR just throwing this out there, because sensors are broken, the heavy suit actually becomes the best sniping suit in the game because you can put your most expensive sniper rifles, 5 or 10armour/s in reppers and as many shield modules as you can fit and basically be able to snipe without even having to worry about tanks.

So seriously think outside the box.

TL;DR just throwing this out there, because sensors are broken, the heavy suit actually becomes the best sniping suit in the game because you can put your most expensive sniper rifles, 5 or 10armour/s in reppers and as many shield modules as you can fit and basically be able to snipe without even having to worry about tanks.

So seriously think outside the box.

I said this 2 builds ago. Even with a logi the healing isn't enough to stand toe to toe with a circle strafing scout - I know because I regularly ignore the logi and leave them for last. That's the complete opposite of what my focus should be.

The ridiculously slow turn speed and reduced armor completely warrant a return to the old "overpowered", HMG, IMO.
I found the old set-up to be a very interesting way to establish the heavy as the #1 threat so that it draws all the hate while its speed and range limit kept it confined to a limited area., similar to a traditional MMO but in PvP form.

However, the completely gimped lol-gi healing combined with an HMG that's lost its place on the battlefield with all the range tweeks and damage nerfs, leaves what could have been a very tight infantry balance on the cutting room floor.

I don't know man, I played a few games today with heavies that would -not- die. I swear, I pumped a full clip of my Tactical AR into those guys, barely got them below half armor.

the description for heavies is kinda lol atm.

something along the lines of" can go toe to toe with vehicles"

unless its a jeep running you over because you're fat and slow.

or a tank.


oh wait that leaves drop ships, but then anyone with a swarm launcher can take those down. :P


don't like this build :P all i ever see is exploiters in tanks, that i can't kill because I'm fat and slow and don't pack enough punch any way.


heavies with anything other then the weapons only they can use are gimped imo (yes yes excluding the HMG which if you pack in complex damage mods actually kills things )

It helped, a little. But its still gd ridiculous, go till overhear, seeing hit recognition and still some of the other guys just whack me with an assault rifle or smg. Being in a "heavy" suit a smg shouldn't tear me in half in .5 seconds.

To me Heavy's should be the infantry equiv of a HAV, (they'll always be easier to kill because of turn speed/low mobility) and require team-play to beat, or at least explosives and-or strong flank/rear attacks.

It sounds like that's the experience the game needs, although if you're the one trying to kill one single-handedly I appreciate that isn't what you want.