It's such a shame, I feel sorry for all these tank drivers and the prices of their kit. You hardly see any at all now, I only see at least one in every game now, sometimes three or four, surely they should be able to have at least three per game especially in TDM. It makes the games go so fast when they kill the entire team in two minutes which means we can play twice as many.
And those guys with missile turrets, wow they must be so expensive, sure they get 20 or 30 or 40 kills a game but come on foot soldiers hold off a bit so they can get a few more, remember if ever they lose a tank they have to pay for them, even though they hardly ever lose them they still had to spend it all in the first place.
This game is no way all about tanks, there a lots of ways to deal with them now, quit the game, turn off your ps3, run to the hills and hide untill game end, leave spawning as long as possible, shoot at your team mate then run and the tank will come after him, or of course not to forget we have av grenades they work a treat, tell all your friends all they have to do is run at the tank and throw them. Now I know the SL is rubbish and they nerfed the Forge, but come on tanks are usefull, these people that say they just go round the map in circles killing everyone and blowing eveything up, huh, I,ve never seen that, they cover their team mates, they take control points and are generally exceptionaly skilled fps players.
Stop moaning about tanks, tanks are not OP and will not ruin this game.

Another post about OP tanks Dave? This time from a sarcastic viewpoint? (sorry if your being serious).
1.) Tanks aren't OP.
2.) No-one is using swarm/SMG combo. This should be the basic loadout everyone has. Militia EVERYTHING.
3.) AV nades + hive = smoking wreck.
4.) Switch every sniper on your team for the loadout I mentioned. Now the game works.

Tanks aren't op. snipers are just complete idiots.

Not with you Wolf. As in my militia super shotgun hero will cost me ISK?

Not with you Wolf. As in my militia super shotgun hero will cost me ISK?

Not with you Wolf. As in my militia super shotgun hero will cost me ISK?

well the last build was for the sole purpose of vehicle testing. This build fixed that and included squads and orbital strikes etc.
so we should get new players en masse ( thanks to ps+ ) . . . i have to convince my mates to play it again though. . .

I think that Blendeddave warriors has proved that the game is balanced. How? Well because now we have complaints that tanks are overpowered against foot soldiers, heavies with forge guns are overpowered against tanks, remote detonators are overpowered against heavy dropsuits, and dropships stomping people are overpowered against the spawn campers with remote detonators! Seems we have an extended paper rock scissor formula which means balance. Ha! So don't remove anything from the cycle.

I'm glad that no one complains that they capture objectives too quickly or that their nano injectors heal too much or the vehicles drop to close too their location or installations shoot too far.

Now a more interesting observation would be if one class of tank seemed overpowered to another (Marauder, black ops etc.). Now with the SP resets I'll have to find out if black ops shield tanks are the way to go where as I like Surya's over Sagaris, or will Suryas still have advantages to those higher end models as they have the 5th low powered module. I'm really really curious.

Another post about OP tanks Dave? This time from a sarcastic viewpoint? (sorry if your being serious).
1.) Tanks aren't OP.
2.) No-one is using swarm/SMG combo. This should be the basic loadout everyone has. Militia EVERYTHING.
3.) AV nades + hive = smoking wreck.
4.) Switch every sniper on your team for the loadout I mentioned. Now the game works.

Tanks aren't op. snipers are just complete idiots.

Vitriol, you must be doing it wrong mate, tanks are not op, I rarely see them and when i do I can normaly sneak up on them and take them out, the trick is you have to get your whole team to jump on top of them with repair kits, blind them so they cant see then kill them when they jump out..... Job done.

Tanks are fine now. Personally I think that the Militia should be a tad bit cheaper, but other than that, they're fine. If you ask me, the people complaining about it are the idiots. Have a problem with tanks? Then got to your nearest supply point, pick up your AV suit with some squad mates, blow the tank up, go back and change suit. Simple....except you probably don't hav a AT suit do you, and that's why you're complaining. Typical.

BORING BORING BORING game.

You know what would stop making it boring?

If you stopped playing it 24/7.

I don't mean quit. For someone who hates it, you sure play an awful lot

I run a gunnlogi, the weaker of the two standard HAVs. I have no points in any infantry gear besides what the assault kit starts with. Despite this, there has been exactly 1 match I failed to take out these standard tanks with level 1 infantry gear, usually solo, and that match was in progress with 4+ assaults hugging the tank at all times.

Tanks are balanced differently, just look at the prices. Let's compare to an assault. They should die once for every 30 or so deaths the assault guy gets. A good assault player is going to get 1-2 KDR minimum. So a tank getting 10 kills and not dieing a majority of their matches is how it has to be, unless the roles are dramatically changed.

So Warriors and a GAC squad went up against my tank and im not kidding swarms everywhere. They spent the whole game chasing me and my corp mate.

2 guys vs 8 + and yes tank lived tho I only got 6 kills.
Guess I'm just super leet....


No wait Im in a tank that needs nerfing.

Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death

thats going away soon here. starter fit AVs are not all that great anyways.

Kitten yeah.(not to you but) kitten you all you full militia av guys(holds up both middle fingers as he leaves the room)

acutally all milita fit gear and modules going single runs each, you die in it you have to get another.

stop the blaming the tanks everyone and blame the genius who decided to listen to the noobs and nerf the forge gun

stop the blaming the tanks everyone and blame the genius who decided to listen to the noobs and nerf the forge gun

we are getting ps+ players i trolled local chat and persuaded some to join squad.. they were having a tough time with the game before i put them in my squad then I even left some on my contacts for good.. after they joined my sqaud, (we had 2 of us that already knew what we were dong) they went like 5/3 scores, all anti infantry, not the best scores but at least they went positive which from their cheers on the mic they were enjoying themselves.. one even went 8/0 after a few games.. and we didnt have a tank those matches- all "FPS playing with skill"

but if you had a squad of all 4 newbs they would get owned by tanks. i knew the maps well so if there was a tank i knew the places not to be in..

we also had a HAV one match (would have had more matches with these vets if it not been for all the reboots and invalid fits) when I had all four veterans on my squad that were a very tight and militant group, that was being repaired by one of our veteran logis..

i was using the tank as mobile cover, me in assault-II, and calling in precision strikes and rushing any AV that popped up (they were all uncoordinated solo swarm launcher attacks, no forge guns, trying to rambo our tank) other enemy were trying to frontal rush the tank with ARs, (pretty freaking stupid strategy IMO)

not once did the other team field their own tank or try any coordinated attack on us.. needless to say that team got steam rolled and my squad all went double digit positive, zero deaths..

so was our HAV overpowered with 4 guys on the mic, (me and 3 gunners) one logi/gunner repairing the tank, and me rushing any AV while they tank provide me cover fire? yea I'm sure you'll say it was dave.. but thats ok.. your friends that CCP so desperately needs are being replaced by my PS+ newbs that I'm introducing to squad/mic play...

Tanks are a joke they just make the game not fun. I shouldnt need my whole team to stop wat there doing just to take out 1-3 guys In a tank. At least only allow 1 tank at a time per side cause when there is 2 or more well fitted tanks its instant win for that team casuse no one can even take out one. An for u guys saying tanks arent op lol how is going 20+-0 every match fair. The fact is tanks are easy mode. but its watever if u need that much of an advantage over ur enemy then good for u lol

Yeah cool story bro.

Thanks for telling us all how great you are, what a hero you are, how we should all be so gratefull you were born to be a psn star of fps games, I'm sorry YOU have no friends and have to keep grouping with noobs.... Never seen you or heard of you except for your constant trolling on here. Nice work with the 176 kills and your amazing kdr. I suggest you stop trolling on here and play a bit more. Ever heard the saying '' All trousers '' ?

Anyone noticed the way swarmers seem to hit the floor a lot recently, even against installations? This helps tanks. Not sure quite what it's about. But swarmers are better vs infantry (marginally).
The forge gun Nerf IMHO was crude. It should have been by way of falloff. Sorry if you get "sniped" by a forgegun but it's because you didn't shoot me. The splash damage should also be effected by falloff, but that might make things more complicated for CCP.

I've not had too many problems with using AV grenades. Instakill LAVs, do large chunks of damage to HAVs, hives replace them faster than you can throw them.

I need to skill for forgegun ASAP to investigate further.

Why is there a militia HAV, but no militia Forgegun... Funny looking scales CCP are using to balance things.

I can tell who cried for at least three separate threads about the forge gun. His name is Avenger245 and he Hayes the forge think that it should never be able to kill infantry and that the range and accuracy were just too much to an anti vehicle weapon. I fought him every time I saw his posts about the forge I guess CCP decided to listen to the one or two people literally that is all I saw agree with him. Now we have almost zero options against tanks because you have to sit and wait for them to come close or you will just die or they will run from you.

Its just stupid to limit the range so much.

Anyone noticed the way swarmers seem to hit the floor a lot recently, even against installations? This helps tanks. Not sure quite what it's about..

It's such a shame, I feel sorry for all these tank drivers and the prices of their kit. You hardly see any at all now, I only see at least one in every game now, sometimes three or four, surely they should be able to have at least three per game especially in TDM. It makes the games go so fast when they kill the entire team in two minutes which means we can play twice as many.
And those guys with missile turrets, wow they must be so expensive, sure they get 20 or 30 or 40 kills a game but come on foot soldiers hold off a bit so they can get a few more, remember if ever they lose a tank they have to pay for them, even though they hardly ever lose them they still had to spend it all in the first place.
This game is no way all about tanks, there a lots of ways to deal with them now, quit the game, turn off your ps3, run to the hills and hide untill game end, leave spawning as long as possible, shoot at your team mate then run and the tank will come after him, or of course not to forget we have av grenades they work a treat, tell all your friends all they have to do is run at the tank and throw them. Now I know the SL is rubbish and they nerfed the Forge, but come on tanks are usefull, these people that say they just go round the map in circles killing everyone and blowing eveything up, huh, I,ve never seen that, they cover their team mates, they take control points and are generally exceptionaly skilled fps players.
Stop moaning about tanks, tanks are not OP and will not ruin this game.

yea good one CCP.. it's time you fire that battlfield3 guy.

(not a troll on you i'm agreeing with you- thats total BS, and as a dropship pilot, [thats right dave, I'm a pilot, I'm a trooper, I'm a tank gunner, AND I support the AV guys, so fk off] FG was my number one fear but I still did not want to see it nerfed just because it blew up my ship)

PS fix the save draft plz

I could have used your help on all that guys threads. He was just so unwilling believe that a range or accuracy nerf would kill the forge guns effectiveness against tanks.

He didn't think that a dumbfire AV weapon should be able to hit infantry but hey lets not worry about the ramifications of our changes will have.

All nerfs and buffs on all equipment need to be carefully weighed and then probably made not as drastic as what proper want just to avoid this problem of over doing it.

This thread is not at all about crying about tanks, it's about the fact that tanks are way OP and are ruining what is supposed to be an fps but is in fact tank wars. You all keep deluding yourselves and we'll see how well this game does if things don't change.
It's already getting bad again and this build has only been up a few days, can't wait for a week or two's time.

This thread is not at all about crying about tanks, it's about the fact that tanks are way OP and are ruining what is supposed to be an fps but is in fact tank wars. You all keep deluding yourselves and we'll see how well this game does if things don't change.
It's already getting bad again and this build has only been up a few days, can't wait for a week or two's time.

YES. Everything this man just said. This is the only way to avoid the inevitable introduction of another asset that is suddenly OP because its counterpart that was introduced earlier was nerfed on account of complaints of it being OP.

Do you even play the game? If you don't spec av, you won't kill tanks. Nuff SaidGäó

Nah never played it, just guessing. Av ? what's that ? By AV do you mean another tank. ? Yup speccing tank as we speak.

I am on the game now ?

In about two matches I'll invite you to a squad

Where is exactly does it say, "this is supposed to be another FPS game," dave.. where's you're link where it says
"we're gonna make a new game for snot nosed little FPS brats who only have friends on the PSN?"

where exactly do you get your info from your moms kitten?

BTW my real life friends are not on the PS3 like me, or btching on a beta forum like you all day..

thats why, dave, i dont have any "friends" here, dave...

My real life friends are rockstars, professional skateboarders, bouncers, bartenders, strippers, and business owners, so you can go play with your snotty elitist friends in a "real FPS game with skill" dave..

lol, btcharse mofo..

You mad ?

Tanks are fine now. Personally I think that the Militia should be a tad bit cheaper, but other than that, they're fine. If you ask me, the people complaining about it are the idiots. Have a problem with tanks? Then got to your nearest supply point, pick up your AV suit with some squad mates, blow the tank up, go back and change suit. Simple....except you probably don't hav a AT suit do you, and that's why you're complaining. Typical.

Has anyone invested into AV as heavily as your average tank driver yet ? Its rare enough to see more than 2 AV guys once a tank enters the fray, rarer still advanced/proto launchers - Very interested in the higher tier launchers and how they compare to my scrub launcher.

here's another "cool story" for you, blanded dave...

typical mic conversation:

some guy #1: "have you heard of those guys that call themselves warriors?"
some guy #2: "yeah there a punch of pusies who whine to much.. they all rage quit already"
me: "yea i know..."

know what else is gai as hell about you dave? that you actually took the time to stalk my 1.24(and rising) KDR
lol what a fgt..

no bro i dont want to date you.

yea dave thats right 1.24 KDR.. this is only my second build, dave. CCP in their infinate wisdom decide it best to early invite morons like you to the beta..

I have done full proto AV, swarm ( worthless ) C4 ( now worthless ) Grenades vs tank ( good luck )
The only thing worthy that gave you a chance Forge ( now nerfed )

What's left, hmm, oh yeah get yourself a tank too. Gameplay ( super nerfed )

Not what I wanted to hear regarding swarms, and I'd rather stay away from skilling towards tanks right now. IMO a swarm launcher vs a tank should go like a stealth bomber vs battleship in EVE however in that scenario its fairly easy to get under their turrets. Maybe making tank turrets move slower, like a large railgun say, that might encourage more toward skilling swarm as a viable mobile AV option.

Well about the AV people: invest more SP to your equipment otherwise you will get rolled over in like 1-2 weeks if you stick with militia stuff. I say this cause i just beasted with my soma on skirmish. Wiped whole squads from objectives while watching out to not getting to close to infantry (av grenades are dangerous). Well the result: militia AV weapons do a bit of damage but not enough to make me sweat. Otherwise i wouldnt be aible to go 34-0. And i think orbital strikes are a joke they have way to little damage radious. As soon i saw 2 enemy strikes incoming (yes you can see and hear them before they hit the ground) i simply drived back and evaded it without a scratch on my tank.

Well about the AV people: invest more SP to your equipment otherwise you will get rolled over in like 1-2 weeks if you stick with militia stuff. I say this cause i just beasted with my soma on skirmish. Wiped whole squads from objectives while watching out to not getting to close to infantry (av grenades are dangerous). Well the result: militia AV weapons do a bit of damage but not enough to make me sweat. Otherwise i wouldnt be aible to go 34-0. And i think orbital strikes are a joke they have way to little damage radious. As soon i saw 2 enemy strikes incoming (yes you can see and hear them before they hit the ground) i simply drived back and evaded it without a scratch on my tank.

It was starting to happen in the last build where lots of ppl were training their av skills and/or vehicle skills to counter the tanks. The tanks became the greatest thing to have then ppl found their counter to it. Although now with all of the new blood, its like starting over. It will again take tanks to openly win games inorder to get ppl to invest sp into a counter. They don't know yet that without some ppl trying to counter it, a tank can clear a battlefield. I'm also hoping for some dropship pilots to come out and play because they were a nice help and could sometimes take a tank out on their own. I may end up playing around with a ds since I keep getting them as salvage. I have 40 or so of them now.

since our death traps are now more expensive I believe we are taking the time to up our skills so that if we manage to stay upright we will last more then a couple militia swarm hits you shall see us soon......

And you sir, will see 6 of my finest missiles fly erratically towards you promptly.


Not saying they'll reach you due to derp flight path but hey, here's trying

Little unfair that me thinks. I'm an 9 year bitter eve vet myself and I wana see an epic FPS too.

As I have seen hardly any AV weapons used and do not have any AV weapons yet myself (besides Militia Swarm), I honestly cannot say whether tanks are OP or not. I hope to soon though as tanks are becoming a serious problem for someone like me without AV weapons.

here's another "cool story" for you, blanded dave...

typical mic conversation:

some guy #1: "have you heard of those guys that call themselves warriors?"
some guy #2: "yeah there a punch of pusies who whine to much.. they all rage quit already"
me: "yea i know..."

know what else is gai as hell about you dave? that you actually took the time to stalk my 1.24(and rising) KDR
lol what a fgt..

no bro i dont want to date you.

yea dave thats right 1.24 KDR.. this is only my second build, dave. CCP in their infinate wisdom decide it best to early invite morons like you to the beta..

It's such a shame, I feel sorry for ruin this game.

i fixed your Thread


since your clan is full of MAG cheaters who would Glitch/Cheat under buildings its no wonder you have to use Tanks cause you have no fps skill at all

they rage quit when the match is not going their way, tanks or no tanks, to protect their precious KDRs