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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:23:00 -
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@ BENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
Was a little hectic for me tho at points. Last build I had a scoutsuit with SMG and proto swarm that got alot of tank kills by point blank hipfire but i died 50% of the tiime and that was in a proto suit and well thats just not viable now with prices as they are. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:30:00 -
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Osiris Greywolf wrote:Tanks are fine now. Personally I think that the Militia should be a tad bit cheaper, but other than that, they're fine. If you ask me, the people complaining about it are the idiots. Have a problem with tanks? Then got to your nearest supply point, pick up your AV suit with some squad mates, blow the tank up, go back and change suit. Simple....except you probably don't hav a AT suit do you, and that's why you're complaining. Typical.
^ THIS......
Thankyou Osiris, some well thought out sense at last. Tanks need a buff if anything. Yes get to the supply depot and get your repair kits. If it's been blown up well it's probably some idiot with a forge that did it. Next time I'm in a game if a tank appears I want the whole team to kill themselves immediately and get repair kit AV or else. |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:32:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:
BORING BORING BORING game.
You know what would stop making it boring?
If you stopped playing it 24/7.
I don't mean quit. For someone who hates it, you sure play an awful lot |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:38:00 -
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It is a test. We are like rats in a cage. Some days they pump us full of ISK. Some days they starve us. Just to see what happens at either end of the spectrum.
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:39:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:
BORING BORING BORING game.
You know what would stop making it boring? If you stopped playing it 24/7. I don't mean quit. For someone who hates it, you sure play an awful lot
Take away hope. The soul dies.
Killing time till December. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:26:00 -
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Tanks are not OP, they can be taken out in seconds by a decent Forge gun, stop using the crap, and get to it, tanks take a ridiculous amount of SP to get, while you can use the same SP to get AV grenades, Froge guns, Swarms, and a decent dropsuit. Also, with the railguns now shooting out shells instead of direct damage, this is another major nerf to tanks. Along with the damage multiplier being gone, and none of the mods working. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:31:00 -
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I run a gunnlogi, the weaker of the two standard HAVs. I have no points in any infantry gear besides what the assault kit starts with. Despite this, there has been exactly 1 match I failed to take out these standard tanks with level 1 infantry gear, usually solo, and that match was in progress with 4+ assaults hugging the tank at all times.
Tanks are balanced differently, just look at the prices. Let's compare to an assault. They should die once for every 30 or so deaths the assault guy gets. A good assault player is going to get 1-2 KDR minimum. So a tank getting 10 kills and not dieing a majority of their matches is how it has to be, unless the roles are dramatically changed. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:44:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I run a gunnlogi, the weaker of the two standard HAVs. I have no points in any infantry gear besides what the assault kit starts with. Despite this, there has been exactly 1 match I failed to take out these standard tanks with level 1 infantry gear, usually solo, and that match was in progress with 4+ assaults hugging the tank at all times.
Tanks are balanced differently, just look at the prices. Let's compare to an assault. They should die once for every 30 or so deaths the assault guy gets. A good assault player is going to get 1-2 KDR minimum. So a tank getting 10 kills and not dieing a majority of their matches is how it has to be, unless the roles are dramatically changed.
Same tank 14 games in a row now and if it wasnt for Just Bad would be more like 30. Ow did I mention just bad was in a tank and thats the only counter atm. Well maybe 5 forgeguns could be up 2 the challenge.
Dont give me any of this you must be an experiance tanky bla bla I'm not and I suck at driving too, I can aim the turret ok tho.
Its not fun these should cost more like 150k,350k,2.5mil and 4mil for the black ops one.
Also the small missile turrets should have ROF nerfed.
Should have a much bigger sig so they show up like a becon as well (no not the black ops one"
Go on hate me tank drivers hate me I'm one of you now tho and just like you making this game less fun for everyone. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:50:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:So Warriors and a GAC squad went up against my tank and im not kidding swarms everywhere. They spent the whole game chasing me and my corp mate. 2 guys vs 8 + and yes tank lived tho I only got 6 kills. Guess I'm just super leet.... No wait Im in a tank that needs nerfing.
READ THIS.. ^^^
It says all that needs to be said. Now all you tommy tank hiders please be quiet. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:50:00 -
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Missile turret balance is almost a separate issue. I agree they do too much damage. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:54:00 -
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You slow down the tank, you need to dramatically up the health. Just look at how the poor militia heavies fare. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:01:00 -
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Was just in a game they went 53 and zero against us with two tanks on the field wow that was so much fun! More please |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:04:00 -
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If I had a Forge gun with the range of 175-250 meters Id be happy. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:08:00 -
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Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:20:00 -
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we are getting ps+ players i trolled local chat and persuaded some to join squad.. they were having a tough time with the game before i put them in my squad then I even left some on my contacts for good.. after they joined my sqaud, (we had 2 of us that already knew what we were dong) they went like 5/3 scores, all anti infantry, not the best scores but at least they went positive which from their cheers on the mic they were enjoying themselves.. one even went 8/0 after a few games.. and we didnt have a tank those matches- all "FPS playing with skill"
but if you had a squad of all 4 newbs they would get owned by tanks. i knew the maps well so if there was a tank i knew the places not to be in..
we also had a HAV one match (would have had more matches with these vets if it not been for all the reboots and invalid fits) when I had all four veterans on my squad that were a very tight and militant group, that was being repaired by one of our veteran logis..
i was using the tank as mobile cover, me in assault-II, and calling in precision strikes and rushing any AV that popped up (they were all uncoordinated solo swarm launcher attacks, no forge guns, trying to rambo our tank) other enemy were trying to frontal rush the tank with ARs, (pretty freaking stupid strategy IMO)
not once did the other team field their own tank or try any coordinated attack on us.. needless to say that team got steam rolled and my squad all went double digit positive, zero deaths..
so was our HAV overpowered with 4 guys on the mic, (me and 3 gunners) one logi/gunner repairing the tank, and me rushing any AV while they tank provide me cover fire? yea I'm sure you'll say it was dave.. but thats ok.. your friends that CCP so desperately needs are being replaced by my PS+ newbs that I'm introducing to squad/mic play... |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:21:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death
thats going away soon here. starter fit AVs are not all that great anyways. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death thats going away soon here. starter fit AVs are not all that great anyways.
Kitten yeah.(not to you but) kitten you all you full militia av guys(holds up both middle fingers as he leaves the room) |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:31:00 -
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stop the blaming the tanks everyone and blame the genius who decided to listen to the noobs and nerf the forge gun |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:32:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death thats going away soon here. starter fit AVs are not all that great anyways. Kitten yeah.(not to you but) kitten you all you full militia av guys(holds up both middle fingers as he leaves the room)
acutally all milita fit gear and modules going single runs each, you die in it you have to get another. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Personally I'm against militia swarm launchers. They let everyone be av without investing or losing a dime at death thats going away soon here. starter fit AVs are not all that great anyways. Kitten yeah.(not to you but) kitten you all you full militia av guys(holds up both middle fingers as he leaves the room) acutally all milita fit gear and modules going single runs each, you die in it you have to get another.
I'm ok with that as I'm through with most mil gear as i only die once or twice as a logi now |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:36:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:stop the blaming the tanks everyone and blame the genius who decided to listen to the noobs and nerf the forge gun
Funny enough I believe that nerf was intended to help the infantry (snipers being blasted from forge guns 9/10 times). Ironic no? |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:37:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:stop the blaming the tanks everyone and blame the genius who decided to listen to the noobs and nerf the forge gun
^this ccp. They whined when i sniped their snipers, which leads us to now go anti infantry. It's a railgun, give it the range it needs |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:12:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:we are getting ps+ players i trolled local chat and persuaded some to join squad.. they were having a tough time with the game before i put them in my squad then I even left some on my contacts for good.. after they joined my sqaud, (we had 2 of us that already knew what we were dong) they went like 5/3 scores, all anti infantry, not the best scores but at least they went positive which from their cheers on the mic they were enjoying themselves.. one even went 8/0 after a few games.. and we didnt have a tank those matches- all "FPS playing with skill" but if you had a squad of all 4 newbs they would get owned by tanks. i knew the maps well so if there was a tank i knew the places not to be in.. we also had a HAV one match (would have had more matches with these vets if it not been for all the reboots and invalid fits) when I had all four veterans on my squad that were a very tight and militant group, that was being repaired by one of our veteran logis.. i was using the tank as mobile cover, me in assault-II, and calling in precision strikes and rushing any AV that popped up (they were all uncoordinated solo swarm launcher attacks, no forge guns, trying to rambo our tank) other enemy were trying to frontal rush the tank with ARs, (pretty freaking stupid strategy IMO) not once did the other team field their own tank or try any coordinated attack on us.. needless to say that team got steam rolled and my squad all went double digit positive, zero deaths.. so was our HAV overpowered with 4 guys on the mic, (me and 3 gunners) one logi/gunner repairing the tank, and me rushing any AV while they tank provide me cover fire? yea I'm sure you'll say it was dave.. but thats ok.. your friends that CCP so desperately needs are being replaced by my PS+ newbs that I'm introducing to squad/mic play...
Yeah cool story bro.
Thanks for telling us all how great you are, what a hero you are, how we should all be so gratefull you were born to be a psn star of fps games, I'm sorry YOU have no friends and have to keep grouping with noobs.... Never seen you or heard of you except for your constant trolling on here. Nice work with the 176 kills and your amazing kdr. I suggest you stop trolling on here and play a bit more. Ever heard the saying '' All trousers '' ? |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:21:00 -
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Tanks are a joke they just make the game not fun. I shouldnt need my whole team to stop wat there doing just to take out 1-3 guys In a tank. At least only allow 1 tank at a time per side cause when there is 2 or more well fitted tanks its instant win for that team casuse no one can even take out one. An for u guys saying tanks arent op lol how is going 20+-0 every match fair. The fact is tanks are easy mode. but its watever if u need that much of an advantage over ur enemy then good for u lol |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:22:00 -
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Blunt Smkr wrote:Tanks are a joke they just make the game not fun. I shouldnt need my whole team to stop wat there doing just to take out 1-3 guys In a tank. At least only allow 1 tank at a time per side cause when there is 2 or more well fitted tanks its instant win for that team casuse no one can even take out one. An for u guys saying tanks arent op lol how is going 20+-0 every match fair. The fact is tanks are easy mode. but its watever if u need that much of an advantage over ur enemy then good for u lol
And the QQing starts... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:26:00 -
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limit tanks in high sec battles, but in low sec null sec and factional warfare there should be no limitations because EVE players have entire planets at stake.. there, problem solved for everyone. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:36:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:we are getting ps+ players i trolled local chat and persuaded some to join squad.. they were having a tough time with the game before i put them in my squad then I even left some on my contacts for good.. after they joined my sqaud, (we had 2 of us that already knew what we were dong) they went like 5/3 scores, all anti infantry, not the best scores but at least they went positive which from their cheers on the mic they were enjoying themselves.. one even went 8/0 after a few games.. and we didnt have a tank those matches- all "FPS playing with skill" but if you had a squad of all 4 newbs they would get owned by tanks. i knew the maps well so if there was a tank i knew the places not to be in.. we also had a HAV one match (would have had more matches with these vets if it not been for all the reboots and invalid fits) when I had all four veterans on my squad that were a very tight and militant group, that was being repaired by one of our veteran logis.. i was using the tank as mobile cover, me in assault-II, and calling in precision strikes and rushing any AV that popped up (they were all uncoordinated solo swarm launcher attacks, no forge guns, trying to rambo our tank) other enemy were trying to frontal rush the tank with ARs, (pretty freaking stupid strategy IMO) not once did the other team field their own tank or try any coordinated attack on us.. needless to say that team got steam rolled and my squad all went double digit positive, zero deaths.. so was our HAV overpowered with 4 guys on the mic, (me and 3 gunners) one logi/gunner repairing the tank, and me rushing any AV while they tank provide me cover fire? yea I'm sure you'll say it was dave.. but thats ok.. your friends that CCP so desperately needs are being replaced by my PS+ newbs that I'm introducing to squad/mic play... Yeah cool story bro. Thanks for telling us all how great you are, what a hero you are, how we should all be so gratefull you were born to be a psn star of fps games, I'm sorry YOU have no friends and have to keep grouping with noobs.... Never seen you or heard of you except for your constant trolling on here. Nice work with the 176 kills and your amazing kdr. I suggest you stop trolling on here and play a bit more. Ever heard the saying '' All trousers '' ?
at least i play the game besides make the same whine post every day..
actually i'm not playing with all noobs, chauncey, i'm just not some fgt elitist who can only play with "warriors" who have all already rage quit (your words in other posts..) leaving you to troll here with your nooby little tears and more cry more noob threads..
so go on noob cry some more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WHptG35EWU
and i will GLADLY keep trolling you. you dont fight in the game so you come here try to do forum battle with me ok so lets do this then...
keep making you little whiny post every day and i will keep on trolling it with more positive stories.. you can't take the facts so you result EVERY time to personal attacks.
you're the one who should take off your skirt and put on some trousers, at least I wear pants or as you call them "trousers" ya whiny arsed little noob. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:45:00 -
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My tank rocked and rolled but it got killed at the end |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:54:00 -
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here's another "cool story" for you, blanded dave...
typical mic conversation:
some guy #1: "have you heard of those guys that call themselves warriors?" some guy #2: "yeah there a punch of pusies who whine to much.. they all rage quit already" me: "yea i know..."
know what else is gai as hell about you dave? that you actually took the time to stalk my 1.24(and rising) KDR lol what a fgt..
no bro i dont want to date you.
yea dave thats right 1.24 KDR.. this is only my second build, dave. CCP in their infinate wisdom decide it best to early invite morons like you to the beta.. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:08:00 -
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Anyone noticed the way swarmers seem to hit the floor a lot recently, even against installations? This helps tanks. Not sure quite what it's about. But swarmers are better vs infantry (marginally). The forge gun Nerf IMHO was crude. It should have been by way of falloff. Sorry if you get "sniped" by a forgegun but it's because you didn't shoot me. The splash damage should also be effected by falloff, but that might make things more complicated for CCP.
I've not had too many problems with using AV grenades. Instakill LAVs, do large chunks of damage to HAVs, hives replace them faster than you can throw them.
I need to skill for forgegun ASAP to investigate further.
Why is there a militia HAV, but no militia Forgegun... Funny looking scales CCP are using to balance things. |
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