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Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.14 04:24:00 -
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Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about.
MAG |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
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Posted - 2012.08.14 04:29:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about. MAG
i think raven and valor would disagree there... |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.14 05:18:00 -
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Valor:
- Insanely accurate hip fire AR (scar)
- Best LMG (MOD 1)
- T1 sniper rifle tied with Raven (forgot the name lol)
- Shotgun has most bullets (12 gauge pump)
- Best .50 cal sniper because of most bullets (Rollins)
Raven:
- Most accurate assault rifle scoped (atac 200)
- Best shotgun power wise (12 gauge pump)
- SmG has fastest rate of fire (f90)
- T1 sniper rifle tied with Valor (HM 90 SE)
S.V.E.R:
- AR that compensates for skill because of the relatively low rate of fire (Tamsen Mk2)
- SMG has most ammo (Vipera)
Raven>Valor>SVER
^for the good players at least |
Bones1182
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2012.08.14 05:19:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about. MAG
Well I never got to play that one and I bet there were still plenty of people who.cried about some weapon or other being OP from day one until now it just changes with the flavor of the week I am sure. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.14 05:25:00 -
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Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about. MAG Well I never got to play that one and I bet there were still plenty of people who.cried about some weapon or other being OP from day one until now it just changes with the flavor of the week I am sure.
The game started of unbalanced. SVER was too OP. It was nerfed, everything was fine. |
shadis omar
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.08.14 05:29:00 -
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Red Orchestra maybe? I always play a rifleman so I don't know much abut tank hunting but from what I see tanks are invulnerable to light arms like my mosin nagant but die quickly to an anti-tank weapon like a panzerfaust. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.14 06:28:00 -
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Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about. MAG Well I never got to play that one and I bet there were still plenty of people who.cried about some weapon or other being OP from day one until now it just changes with the flavor of the week I am sure.
no actually, it was the tamsen. and it never changed.
not to mention the fact that sver was never NOT winning. so no. the flavor of the month never changed. the same faction was always winning, and the tamsen was always the broken gun. |
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Posted - 2012.08.14 06:42:00 -
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Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Bones1182 wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:1. CCP does not have a style of balancing. This is perfectly well and dandy in EvE(on the computer side), but this is not okay where we are. First person shooters need a steady balance to be considered skillful. We need a skillful games so we don't get wrecked by noobs as we are now.
2. Tanks take no skill to use. Things shouldn't get kills if they take no skill. I think the concept is simple enough.
3. The fps community will completely vanish without balance. This is a promise. Just out of curiosity please name what you consider to be a well "balanced" FPS title where the main component is multiplayer and has vehicles. My experience in recent years of FPS has unfortunately been limited due to a lack of funds on my part or other games and things I wanted or needed at the time. I have played a decent amount of the COD series and halo but not much else unfortunately I have missed out on MAG which I had heard very good things about. MAG Well I never got to play that one and I bet there were still plenty of people who.cried about some weapon or other being OP from day one until now it just changes with the flavor of the week I am sure.
they do. the "FPSers players with skill" on MAG cry about about heavy plate armor/light machine gun combo because it kills them in CQC |
XxGreen RangerxX
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Posted - 2012.08.14 09:15:00 -
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Mr omnipotent while i appreciate your extremely lengthy post that at the core basically is an elaborate nerf tanks thread, I think you should take a step back for a minute. This is a BETA. And while in beta testing one of our roles is indeed to find bugs and inbalance if there is any we also must keep in mind that there are a ton of features , modules , and vehicles that have not been implemented yet.
Perhaps tanks dont need a nerf at all. Maybe with the introduction of EWAR(electronic warfare) with things like webifiers, cap neutralizers, and others these godly tanks will find their place in the fold of balance. What if you can shut down these tanks repair modules and inhibit them from running away? In this light they seem much more manageable no?
Give CCP a chance to show you how they do balance and lets all please stop with the nerf this buff that garbage. I would much rather have a module or new ship type of some such added then just the constant roller coaster of nerf buff nerf buff. thats just me though. |
Bones1182
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2012.08.14 14:06:00 -
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As I said I have never had the chance to play MAG most games go one of two ways the flavor of the month is cried about until someone finds a way to beat it or as you said in MAG it never changed. Much like Unreal Tournament or Halo where one or two weapons are considered the best options in any situation. |
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