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Rorek IronBIood
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:40:00 -
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I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me |
Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:41:00 -
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If that is what you want go back to COD |
Rorek IronBIood
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:42:00 -
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Frank Devine wrote:If that is what you want go back to COD
your a ignorant troll |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:44:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
agree OP |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:45:00 -
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If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:45:00 -
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I'll bite .
Could you clarify what you mean by a kill streak? I literally have no idea what your talking about.
Are you saying that if you get a line of unbroken kills (that is by defintion a kill streak) you get a jeep?
What makes this better than ordering one from the vehicle menu? Who awards there vehicles? Dust is part of a simulated reality in a persistent world. Which body gives out free stuff?
Develop this idea please.
Anyway doesn't this happen anyway? You get loads of kills + few deaths = extra SP and isk = more jeeps and tanks to buy.
I obvious havn't played the game this idea is in |
Erahk Manaan
Defiant Kelkoons
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:45:00 -
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I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:47:00 -
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NO. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:47:00 -
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Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way.
how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:52:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two
The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. |
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JaZZa01
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
81
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:53:00 -
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Lessen the requirements. |
Rorek IronBIood
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:54:00 -
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Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game.
COD does take skill its called gungame |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:55:00 -
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Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game.
ha you have no idea what skill is, I bet if you were put in any game from cod to halo you'd get wrecked by people like me |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:56:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two GTFO |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:59:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two GTFO
I am entitled to my opinion please do not swear at me |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:00:00 -
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JaZZa01 wrote:Lessen the requirements.
You mean make it easier and dumb it down? |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:00:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:JaZZa01 wrote:Lessen the requirements. You mean make it easier and dumb it down?
YES! WHY DOES NO-ONE GET THIS YOU NEED NOOBS FOR A SUCCESSFUL GAME OMG. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:00:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. COD does take skill its called gungame
Its called twitching then KS after you have twitched enough and put a bullet into his pinky finger |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:01:00 -
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people are nuts with this:
"go back to COD!!! go back to HALO"
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Gunmouse
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:01:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two
WOW you're incredibly stupid. Please don't play this game. |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:01:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:JaZZa01 wrote:Lessen the requirements. You mean make it easier and dumb it down? YES! WHY DOES NO-ONE GET THIS YOU NEED NOOBS FOR A SUCCESSFUL GAME OMG.
So dumb into down for the short bus ppl so you can boost on in high sec? |
Rorek IronBIood
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:01:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. COD does take skill its called gungame Its called twitching then KS after you have twitched enough and put a bullet into his pinky finger
R U A TROLL |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:02:00 -
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Obvious Troll Is Obvious *Edit*
Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two
Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. |
Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:03:00 -
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I wish all who want this to be like COD just to shut and play COD and let the rest of us enjoy a well thought out game. and really do we need another COD isn't there enough of them? |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:04:00 -
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ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name.
You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model
key word BEST
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TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:04:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two GTFO I am entitled to my opinion please do not swear at me So am I, my opinion is that you're here for the wrong game. It's like walking into a French restaurant and asking them to get Italian food, I'm sure people will voice their opinion by telling you to GTFO. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:05:00 -
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Frank Devine wrote:I wish all who want this to be like COD just to shut and play COD and let the rest of us enjoy a well thought out game.
Could not handle COD skills level |
Grizl Takus
13
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:05:00 -
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[/quote]
R U A TROLL[/quote]
No he's someone that doesn't want this game to turn into a Call of Duty Sc-fi shooter that's what BO2 is for. |
KILLAHG187 WARRIORS
6
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:05:00 -
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COD does take skill its called gungame [/quote]
lol was you dropped on your head as a baby??????? cod is re(t)ard proof hit scan no aim B.S and hell NOOOOOOOOOO keep kill streaks out |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:05:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model key word BEST
So CCP should make like 3 weapons op and the rest are just filler? Cause that's how "COD" work's. |
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Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:07:00 -
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KILLAHG187 WARRIORS wrote:
COD does take skill its called gungame
lol was you dropped on your head as a baby??????? cod is ****** proof hit scan no aim B.S and hell NOOOOOOOOOO keep kill streaks out [/quote]
no wonder this game could not pass 100o ppl on the sever stress test, because it needs kill streaks |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:10:00 -
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ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model key word BEST So CCP should make like 3 weapons op and the rest are just filler? Cause that's how "COD" work's.
ISNT THE BREACH class OP |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:11:00 -
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I really hope they don't put in killstreaks and all that arcade nonsense. You want an orbital strike? You better have the isk to pay for it. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:12:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model key word BEST So CCP should make like 3 weapons op and the rest are just filler? Cause that's how "COD" work's. ISNT THE BREACH class OP
Only cause hit detection sucks this build. When they fix that expect a variety of gun's. Especially with the rise of the Duvolle. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:14:00 -
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Player base needs to increase and I think Kill streaks is the way to go |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:15:00 -
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AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:17:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure.
THIS |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:19:00 -
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Every weapon can be op if handled correctly.
Oh and just to post my own opinion: skills required to play and have a chance: Dust 514 / Brink / Section 8 / GunZ:The Duel > CoD
Reading: Imho The games named first are more of a challenge (in a good way) than the last game (or in this case franchise), this doesn not include things like hackers, who might make every game look bad. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:19:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Templar Two wrote:AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure. THIS
Switching it around eh Cause that is not continuous kills that just killing be killed and kill some more. |
Got malwarE
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:20:00 -
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If I kill several pirates in a row in Eve, I get nothing more than the satisfaction of being able to walk away with my ship. This should be enough in Dust as well.
I vote no kill streaks.
--GmE |
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Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:22:00 -
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ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Templar Two wrote:AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure. THIS Switching it around eh Cause that is not continuous kills that just killing be killed and kill some more.
Its a start, or I should say a progression to Kill Streaaks |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:22:00 -
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Got malwarE wrote:If I kill several pirates in a row in Eve, I get nothing more than the satisfaction of being able to walk away with my ship. This should be enough in Dust as well.
I vote no kill streaks.
--GmE
Amen! |
CloudShepherd
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
7
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:22:00 -
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Please, just no.
I like Dust being one of the games that doesn't have any killstreaks.
Don't say I'm glad it isn't there cause i'm a terrible player. Save your breath. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:24:00 -
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CloudShepherd wrote:Please, just no.
I like Dust being one of the games that doesn't have any killstreaks.
Don't say I'm glad it isn't there cause i'm a terrible player. Save your breath.
Kill streaks would help you
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Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:27:00 -
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I am honestly sick of games trying to be like CoD. Lots of games are ruined because they try to be like it. Let the CoD people stay on that game and let the rest of us enjoy a more variety of games. Just because it sells a lot of copies it doesn't make it a good game in the slightest, infact the only good thing about CoD is the party system. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:27:00 -
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The progression towards kill streaks? You seem to be trying to get your hopes up. I wouldn't try to keep em up for to long I hear it causes depression.
On a serious note kill streaks will never happen since they sorta already took battlefields route were Ehm "You are the kill-streak" since you can just call in what you want using the money you earned. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:29:00 -
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Points over to the war point system.
Points to the battlefield commander in charge of the teams war point wallet.
Points to offmap support, vehicle requests, orbital support and counter orbital support as war point expentitures. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:30:00 -
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Killsteaks will add more balance issues.
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Kcobra Rod
Foxhound Corporation
55
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:34:00 -
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Is the OP serious? |
Grizl Takus
13
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:35:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Killsteaks will add more balance issues.
And just how would they do that? |
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Chris Ridgeway
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:35:00 -
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COD is a Arcade Type shooter, no thought process into what you are doing. Perks, Weapons, Killstreaks GO...
Whereas this game takes time to become good at whatever you are going to be, just like EVE. EVE and Dust weren't made for the masses. It was made for people who don't want arcade shooters, people who want to think and specialize in what they do.
So technically you can't compare the 2 games. Technically they are FPS but they ain't the same type of game. In EVE and DUST everyone is not created equal. That's about as simple as I can put it. Thinking about what you are doing and specializing in your role gets you alot farther than just randomly training some **** and hoping for the best as you sprint across the field.
Although I do like those people who sprint across the field not paying attention, makes them easy to spot and kill when they run out of stamina..aww no marathon perks for the run and gunners..you can't outrun a sniper round.
Ohh and No to the Killstreaks. |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:35:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:CloudShepherd wrote:Please, just no.
I like Dust being one of the games that doesn't have any killstreaks.
Don't say I'm glad it isn't there cause i'm a terrible player. Save your breath. Kill streaks would help you
Kill streaks would help those who are already owning, to keep their owning going on. This is by far the dumbest idea a game designer could have possibly dreamt of. What you want is something to cater to your personal epeen stat so that you can go to your "friends" and brag how you are good at a game. Thats all fine and legitimate, we have a franchise for guys like you (who adds up to the biggest part of fps community . . . sadly), its called Call of Duty. On the other hand that you left your personal well-feeling-sphere to play Dust-514 must mean that the CoD Games started to get on your nerves. I'd think thrice about wanting to see mechanics of a game i'm bored about enough to take part in the beta of an unpublished game in said game i decided to look into. |
Rorek IronBIood
11
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:36:00 -
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Kcobra Rod wrote:Is the OP serious?
VERY |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:42:00 -
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Killsteaks serve one purpose and one purpose only: give advantages to players that kill more. Really nothing will stop spawn-campers to get tanks easy and win matches easy. |
Chihiro Itto
66
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:42:00 -
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Deskalkulos Ildigan wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:CloudShepherd wrote:Please, just no.
I like Dust being one of the games that doesn't have any killstreaks.
Don't say I'm glad it isn't there cause i'm a terrible player. Save your breath. Kill streaks would help you Kill streaks would help those who are already owning, to keep their owning going on. This is by far the dumbest idea a game designer could have possibly dreamt of.
This. It might be 'fun' in the arcade sense (and only for the player who is already having lots of fun bettering everyone else), but it's moronic in terms of a universe with any desire for consistency or verisimilitude (look it up). |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:48:00 -
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Chris Ridgeway wrote:COD is a Arcade Type shooter, no thought process into what you are doing. Perks, Weapons, Killstreaks GO...
Whereas this game takes time to become good at whatever you are going to be, just like EVE. EVE and Dust weren't made for the masses. It was made for people who don't want arcade shooters, people who want to think and specialize in what they do.
So technically you can't compare the 2 games. Technically they are FPS but they ain't the same type of game. In EVE and DUST everyone is not created equal. That's about as simple as I can put it. Thinking about what you are doing and specializing in your role gets you alot farther than just randomly training some **** and hoping for the best as you sprint across the field.
Although I do like those people who sprint across the field not paying attention, makes them easy to spot and kill when they run out of stamina..aww no marathon perks for the run and gunners..you can't outrun a sniper round.
Ohh and No to the Killstreaks. I like the fact it takes time to learn and I'm not good at it straight away. It kinda reminds me of R:FoM where you actually had to practise to be good at it. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
That is not me. That is one of the morons trying to pose as me.
I should be flattered they even cared enough to create an alternate account.
Edit:
Just report this thread. The fact that these inept pisant children have to create an alternate account of me is just childish. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:42:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me They've mentioned that some support assets will be available dependent on your War Points, so I think that's as close as you're going to get. |
Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:11:00 -
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Rorek IronBIood wrote:Frank Devine wrote:I wish all who want this to be like COD just to shut and play COD and let the rest of us enjoy a well thought out game. Could not handle COD skills level ******* I am a level 6 prestige and a elite founder so suck it. But DUST514 is a whole new beast that is changing the way games will be developed and played. |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:16:00 -
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Nope not a good idea leave it in CoD its fine in that even though i get way more kills in this than CoD i would never want it included in this game |
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Ayures0
259
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:16:00 -
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No. Go back to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Black Ops: Friendship is Magic |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:19:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:Nope not a good idea leave it in CoD its fine in that even though i get way more kills in this than CoD i would never want it included in this game
Here's a hint. I did not make this thread. One of the forum pidgeons did because, I made fun of them. Seriously did anyone not notice the differences? How anyone thought that was me is bogling. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Ayures0 wrote:No. Go back to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Black Ops: Friendship is Magic
Not me...
This is getting annoying. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:20:00 -
[64] - Quote
Templar Two wrote:AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure.
No, war points are missions that are completed, not how many people you have killed. |
Cless Vallein
Teknomen
37
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
You want a better game than COD, hit up BF3... You want an MMOFPS with substance, depth, consequences, rewards for competence and community, then stay right here with Dust... killstreaks???? seriously... GTFO here with that garbage talk |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
I'm a 5th Prestige on CoD and quite good at it and that's without trying. CoD is great to play when you don't want to think. |
steadyhand 08 orti
Doomheim
43
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
just NO this is a bad idea for a number of reasions, this is not a match based shooter, kill streaks have no place here.
DUST is a thinking mans shooter. you performance is based straight out of how well you can plan you skill tree, the equipment you buy and job you do on the field. In fact quite often the guy with the highest kills on the team normally did least useful work in skirmish modes (ambush is a different matter ^^).
when you get your tank, you got it because you planed for, saved up for it, and learnt how to drive it well, you personal skill at shooting didn't really factor, but now you get to play in your tank because YOU worked hard for it.
kills steaks have no place here, this game is E-peen shooter, its shooter for people who like to think plan and build and at the end of the day learn what needs to be done to have biggest unfair advantage they can :) COD and MW3 players wont like this game and nor should they, this game is meant for them this game DUST is not shooter, its a strategy game |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Nope not a good idea leave it in CoD its fine in that even though i get way more kills in this than CoD i would never want it included in this game Here's a hint. I did not make this thread. One of the forum pidgeons did because, I made fun of them. Seriously did anyone not notice the differences? How anyone thought that was me is bogling.
u must be very good a poker lol |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:36:00 -
[69] - Quote
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:39:00 -
[70] - Quote
How do we know your not biological brothers and one of you is evil. |
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KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:41:00 -
[71] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
oh so u mean it was hacked or something on that order well ive seen alot of dumbasses with alot of likes :P i think they must hide a like the person above u thread but ok i understand now and i wasnt responding to ur message but the OP even though u have the same name |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:44:00 -
[72] - Quote
... Not really funny. I was not hacked. Just someone who went out of their way to be a child, and created an alternate account. They call that being a ********. I do not really find this to be funny, I'll be honest.
Also joking aside the persons impersonating myself is not related to me in any form. |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:
... Not really funny. I was not hacked. Just someone who went out of their way to be a child, and created an alternate account. They call that being a ********. I do not really find this to be funny, I'll be honest.
Also joking aside the persons impersonating myself is not related to me in any form.
? im lost how does he have ur name then? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
More then likely changed an "O" to a zero "0", or an "I" to an "L" just lower case of course. I'm sure that is what they did. I personally do not know whom it was who made the alt, but it is very, very petty. Especially in creating this thread.
Almost as annoying as CCP's managment taking their time in deleting this, and banning the alternate account. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:53:00 -
[75] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
lmao he spells his name wth an I after the B instead of an L... wow what a life. this is some crazy drama these kids must have some serious time on their hands
if you mouse over your name under portrait and his name you will see the I and L in detail |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 19:56:00 -
[76] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
lmao he spells his name wth an I after the B instead of an L... wow what a life. this is some crazy drama these kids must have some serious time on their hands if you mouse over your name under portrait and his name you will see the I and L in detail
I figured as much. Thanks for pointing it out though. I just really wish managment would delete this thread, and ban the alternate account. It's just annoying, and time consuming. |
XxDreadknotxX
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:57:00 -
[77] - Quote
i think kill streaks are jus to much for this game where u could already use vechicles... i jus don't see it... it's really jus to much...i agree go back to cod |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
256
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Posted - 2012.07.29 19:57:00 -
[78] - Quote
nah, thanks though. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 20:07:00 -
[79] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
lmao he spells his name wth an I after the B instead of an L... wow what a life. this is some crazy drama these kids must have some serious time on their hands if you mouse over your name under portrait and his name you will see the I and L in detail I figured as much. Thanks for pointing it out though. I just really wish managment would delete this thread, and ban the alternate account. It's just annoying, and time consuming.
yea bro sorry i can;t help but laugh tho because it's a multi page troll, he really hit a sensitive not in the community. i was almost trolled by it until i saw the difference in your likes.. what a looser lol to go that far you must have really got him butthurt.. but it is kinda funny that ppl are still responding to the troll, i wouldnt worry too much about it, or just make a new thread telling eveyone that this thread is a troll |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 20:11:00 -
[80] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
lmao he spells his name wth an I after the B instead of an L... wow what a life. this is some crazy drama these kids must have some serious time on their hands if you mouse over your name under portrait and his name you will see the I and L in detail I figured as much. Thanks for pointing it out though. I just really wish managment would delete this thread, and ban the alternate account. It's just annoying, and time consuming. yea bro sorry i can;t help but laugh tho because it's a multi page troll, he really hit a sensitive not in the community. i was almost trolled by it until i saw the difference in your likes.. what a looser lol to go that far you must have really got him butthurt.. but it is kinda funny that ppl are still responding to the troll, i wouldnt worry too much about it, or just make a new thread telling eveyone that this thread is a troll
Well the differences are much more radical then that. I'm much more savant then the person trying to troll us. Thank you, though. I do find some aspects hilarious, but not too much where I can laugh just yet. I'm sure getting me to rage, and get under my skin was their whole objective. I just find it petty, and a waste of time on my own part to have to put up with this, and their own time. Sadly they are too willing to waste their time.
Still nonetheless it is good to note that people are finally taking notice (though how they thought it was myself is beyond me and again mind bogling.) |
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whoshotcha79
15
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Posted - 2012.07.29 21:10:00 -
[81] - Quote
Why should kill whoring k/d obsessed players only get vehicles snd orbital strike why not the guy that supports his team with nanohives reving and anti vehicle.play this isnt team deathmatch killstreaks have a place but its not in DUST |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.07.29 21:17:00 -
[82] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
Yeah you shounld be awarded for killstreaks. I think they should give player more isk for killstreaks. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.07.29 21:17:00 -
[83] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me Yeah you should be awarded for killstreaks. I think they should give players more isk for killstreaks. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 21:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I rarely play poker, but seriously for starters just look at how he spells, and uses punctuation. It's nothing like my own. Our IP adressses are very different, and beyon that I would never post a thread up such as this. Also another tell sign is the amount of likes. I wish we could see IP adresses, or atleast have some form of sign up date being shown. Some form of identification.
The persons impersonating, or attempting to do so are just kids trying to smite me for what I said earlier towards them. In which they are only proving my point. That they are socially regressed pisants.
Seriously though the person whom created the alternate account is just trying troll myself, and us all. Just report this thread. It is what I did. Sadly managment is slow to react.
lmao he spells his name wth an I after the B instead of an L... wow what a life. this is some crazy drama these kids must have some serious time on their hands if you mouse over your name under portrait and his name you will see the I and L in detail I figured as much. Thanks for pointing it out though. I just really wish managment would delete this thread, and ban the alternate account. It's just annoying, and time consuming. yea bro sorry i can;t help but laugh tho because it's a multi page troll, he really hit a sensitive not in the community. i was almost trolled by it until i saw the difference in your likes.. what a looser lol to go that far you must have really got him butthurt.. but it is kinda funny that ppl are still responding to the troll, i wouldnt worry too much about it, or just make a new thread telling eveyone that this thread is a troll
Yeah it's Rorek Ironbiood, with 6 likes, that's some f'd up s. |
Derek Barnes
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
340
|
Posted - 2012.07.29 21:24:00 -
[85] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:Templar Two wrote:AFAIK "War Points" will be the required to RDV, which is basically a killsteaks system! The more you kill the more you can RDV.
I am not 100% sure. THIS
You didn't know thats what the War points were used for. CCP has said many times that if you don't have War Points, you can't have a vehicle delivered. Like other people said CCP thinks of more in-depth ways to do things. Other than straight up kill streaks.
Also why are you copying Rorek IronBlood's name by adding a capital i in where the L in blood should be? |
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GM Unicorn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
467
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Posted - 2012.07.29 21:39:00 -
[86] - Quote
Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. |
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Nom Lemming
5
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:05:00 -
[87] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model key word BEST
I spy issue...
WoW is best MMO allegedly. SWG changed to be more like WoW and DIED because of it. Chromehounds was alot like Armoured core and Mechwarrior... it's dead, servers shutdown.
Spot the pattern? I do...
Making a game like another that's the "Best" is not always the smart thing to do. Sometimes you need to take the box and throw it away, only then can you think outside it. CCP are good at that and should continue to do it instead of making copies of other games.
Plus, how long is it between COD games? DUST has to last, COD only needs to last until they can assemble a copy that's barely any different and then charge the idiots -ú35--ú40 for each "new" version. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:24:00 -
[88] - Quote
Killstreaks in the sense of "get X kills, get cools tuff handed to you" doesn't fit here. They're a bad idea in any game, in the sense that they give the player(s) performing well even more of an advantage against the player(s) being beaten.
It's the exact opposite of a balancing mechanism, and as a result, it makes the game harder on the losing team.
At the same time, it DOES provide incentive to perform well - but kills AREN'T the only measure of how well someone performs in a game with healing and resupply options and objective-based gameplay.
Giving ISK or SP bonuses (or both) for reaching certain amounts of WPs in a single life would be a good idea - effectively, it's a monetary killstreak if you focus on killing, but can also be a hack-streak or heal-streak for those players who focus on such things. |
Karr 0x0202
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:35:00 -
[89] - Quote
Agree with Garrett -- killstreaks shouldn't come with in-game rewards. I'm interested in longest killstreak (a la Killzone 3) just as a statistic.
However, it would make a certain amount of sense if there was some ISK bonus connected to a killstreak. |
Kill3rAce
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:39:00 -
[90] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
To be honest, I don't you understand that the people excited for this game are tired of the same old FPS every single year. COD is a great game but it hasn't changed in like 6 years. One of the reasons I stopped paying 60+ for the same games and re-done maps. Kill Streaks do not make sense in this game or universe. You should go read about how EVE works, there is a complete economy and people have certain skills to create all the items we use in the game. This isn't like every other shooter where the weapons just appear out of thin air and can be replaced without any money.
PS: Don't get mad because people don't like your idea, just to learn to move on and if you want KS go play COD, Uncharted and etc. we don't need those mechanics in every single game. |
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Entruv
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:43:00 -
[91] - Quote
Kill streaks are for games where the things you get ARE NOT ASSETS. The tanks, dropsuits, drop ships are all assets that we must pay for. The don't materialize out of no where they come down from our MCC.
I do not agree with this at all as I feel it goes against the Eve Universe. I hope CCP doesn't give into kill streak rewards. That is all. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 15:46:00 -
[92] - Quote
Karr 0x0202 wrote:Agree with Garrett -- killstreaks shouldn't come with in-game rewards. I'm interested in longest killstreak (a la Killzone 3) just as a statistic.
However, it would make a certain amount of sense if there was some ISK bonus connected to a killstreak.
Yeah something like a temporary isk or sp multiplier seems fair, but free jeeps and tanks, not so much. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:52:00 -
[93] - Quote
Lolz they put this carp ingame I'm gona use it to ruin you lot that think its a good idea.
Sounds about as horrible as my posting readz
Edit: im talking about nukes and other rubbish. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:53:00 -
[94] - Quote
More like encouraging for camping kills. In MAG, when you get 5 kill streaks you get an awesome beat.
Just like this one MAG That's how it should be done. |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. ha you have no idea what skill is, I bet if you were put in any game from cod to halo you'd get wrecked by people like me
it takes a hell of a lot more skill to coordinate a strategy that can overcome overpowered enemies. if the lone wolves from CoD went up against a team of players who have any type of plan, you can expect the CoD kiddies to freak out, whine about how overpowered whatever the other team was using is, and then go running back to the only game simple enough for them to understand. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:58:00 -
[96] - Quote
Benjamin Hellios wrote:Karr 0x0202 wrote:Agree with Garrett -- killstreaks shouldn't come with in-game rewards. I'm interested in longest killstreak (a la Killzone 3) just as a statistic.
However, it would make a certain amount of sense if there was some ISK bonus connected to a killstreak. Yeah something like a temporary isk or sp multiplier seems fair, but free jeeps and tanks, not so much.
I strongly disagree with the ISK bonus - Sp ok, but ISK should be awarded according to the contract, stated contract bonuses based on tangible secondary objectives, salvage.from destruction, and seized assets. Having a magic ISK printing machine appear due to a kill streak is a bit arcadey. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:05:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:Karr 0x0202 wrote:Agree with Garrett -- killstreaks shouldn't come with in-game rewards. I'm interested in longest killstreak (a la Killzone 3) just as a statistic.
However, it would make a certain amount of sense if there was some ISK bonus connected to a killstreak. Yeah something like a temporary isk or sp multiplier seems fair, but free jeeps and tanks, not so much. I strongly disagree with the ISK bonus - Sp ok, but ISK should be awarded according to the contract, stated contract bonuses based on tangible secondary objectives, salvage.from destruction, and seized assets. Having a magic ISK printing machine appear due to a kill streak is a bit arcadey.
Unless that isk is taken from the people on the receiving end of your killstreak. For me killstreaks are unnecessary, but if they're going to put it in the game I might as well join the conversation, even if it's just to find some kind of middle ground. SP would make more sense. |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:10:00 -
[98] - Quote
what would happen is that a corp would decide that they want their dusties to lose less loadouts in game so that they don't have to pay as much. they would use the killstreak system to encourage their dusties to camp, however they would have to make these killstreaks difficult to obtain so that they don't end up losing isk because they keep dropping tanks everywhere. this is how i would do it:
7-killstreak- weak orbital strike 13-killstreak-standard jeep 21-killstreak- standard tank 33-killstreak- standard dropship 47-killstreak- prototype jeep 65-killstreak- prototype tank 87-killstreak- prototype dropship 100-killstreak- the nuke beam from the future vision trailer. 150-killstreak- 50 of each of your fittings for free
my numbers are probably pretty high, but remember, this is designed to save isk by cutting down on deaths. |
Impured Heredia
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:17:00 -
[99] - Quote
this ain't COD so don't try to make it to it. also its a closed beta, there ain't going to be that many people playing it at the moment so why even bring up "needs a higher player base". wait till release then lets see how many play it. its a different FPS and if you don't like it just play one you do enjoy and let people enjoy this type of FPS
also for my personal opinion: i wouldn't want a huge player base full of people that are rude and childish and think getting a high kill streak is the only thing that matters. these people would never get a contract because they wouldn't care if the mission failed because they can't risk that kill to death ratio |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:45:00 -
[100] - Quote
will not dignify this thread with a real answer because thread is silly. so go eat waffles any pet a kitten. |
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Antar Zintu
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:57:00 -
[101] - Quote
No to killstreak rewards. You got a KS? Well, you can brag about your KDR, seems to be plenty of that going on...
And yes, I play CoD too. And you know what? Most of the servers I play on don't allow KS; if you use them you'll get kicked.
People actually like a level playing field. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:58:00 -
[102] - Quote
I don't think kill streaks would ever work because most of E.V.E is player run. Guess who would deliver your killstreak if you got one. The E.V.E players would most likely be the ones to bring them out. If what I heard is true eventually the Transports that bring in our Tanks and our Dropships will eventually be player controllable.
If you think that you would get your Orbital Strike just by getting X amount of kill's and you painted your target and the E.V.E player see's the flashing point on the planet that designates a point to Strike. What's stopping him from thinking if he got x amount of kill's to be able to orbital strike why does he need my help?
Truthfully if i was that E.V.E pilot I wouldn't even waste my time shooting a round towards that spot.
Having the ability to bring in a vehicle, why should you get a vehicle that you could use to rack up even more kill's besides if a random vehicle just dropped in it's probably poorly equipped, and if it would be the tank you bought dropped in then why would i even consider buying a vehicle that will probably cost 1.4-2 million isk only to have to work even harder just to bring it in.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:04:00 -
[103] - Quote
Sweet, make players already getting 20+kills in tanks and proto gear even more powerful. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:36:00 -
[104] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two
Being the best selling doesn't make it the best game.
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Aosx Kunn
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:17:00 -
[105] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. COD does take skill its called gungame He should play cs 1.6 and see how he feels. I agree that this is not cod. |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:19:00 -
[106] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod
COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. |
Ferocitan
22
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:36:00 -
[107] - Quote
-1 is my vote. Killstreaks is for making a shooter only game a bit more rewarding to play. This isn't a shooter only. |
Zarkn Frood
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:40:00 -
[108] - Quote
NO in game awards for 'Kill Streaks'.
In fact I think we're better off without any thing related to it at all...but if it is added....
I hope it is put in only for the terminology of 'Kill Streaks or Killing Spree'.... but adding it as a game mechanic should be displayed only for stats reasons at the end or as a message across the death tracker.
Only so people can see the beloved ______ 'is on a killing spree'
this would also alert players who are paying attention to the death tracker, - hey, XYZmerc is really good, be careful.
People not paying attention would miss out and probably get added to that players kill streak.
I don't want to be rewarded EXTRA for being good at killing many people in a row. My reward for kills is I got good at playing the game and I'm on the upper tier of the leader boards after being the scum on the bottom of other mercs boots. My reward is SKILL POINTS and ISK. My reward is I helped curb the enemy from winning that close match because I died only once or twice and wrecked havoc on them.
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Draconaes Khor
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:13:00 -
[109] - Quote
Guys Bejewled has sold over 75 millions copies Dust should take a hint and copy it. [/snark] |
Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:15:00 -
[110] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
go play call of dooty for that ****. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:34:00 -
[111] - Quote
Killstreaks are a mechanic that I never liked, as they are jarring to the flow of a game and cause odd power tilts at random times.
Furthermore, they seem way too arcadish (More the other typical FPS mechanics). Some invisible man in the sky is not going to hand out heavy equipment based on a strict number of criteria when we supposedly own all of the stuff we use.
It just seems too out of place, whether rewarding you with vehicles, orbital strikes or packs of attack dogs. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:37:00 -
[112] - Quote
Rorek IronBIood wrote:ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Obvious Troll Is Quote:how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two Just cause its "Best Selling" dosen't make it a model for all game's. Now run along little Cod the type-95 call's your name. You do not have to be rude, and yes a best gaming is a good game model key word BEST
Thank you! a lot of game producers believe this BS and its made for a lot of boring inhomogeneous games.
I mean when halo came out it did very well because it was a good party game and was really the first real entrance of FPS in to console, and no golden eye doesn't count. how ever other game producers went ohh look how well they did that must be the secret formula two guns Regening health lets do that.
Same thing happened with the "Realistic shooters" like COD and BF. Every one wanted to be them. The only problem being that well designed and different(for a shooter) shooters like resistance fall of man get butchered in their second release to fit the mold of "how the best game ever is made", or classic games like wolfinstine 3D get brought back for no reason because the original feel that made them so great is gone.
conformity is a bad habit, it makes it hard to make a name for your self. All long lived successful game franchises made their name by breaking the mold, from Quake to halo to BF to COD to assassins creed, They brought some thing new to the table, some thing the video game industry hates to do now, and succeeded fantastically for it.
This could be a major Paradigm shift for gaming or it could be another clone done a hundred times over.
Which do you want?
PS I know ending in a question is troll bait but ........what ever. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:41:00 -
[113] - Quote
Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:Karr 0x0202 wrote:Agree with Garrett -- killstreaks shouldn't come with in-game rewards. I'm interested in longest killstreak (a la Killzone 3) just as a statistic.
However, it would make a certain amount of sense if there was some ISK bonus connected to a killstreak. Yeah something like a temporary isk or sp multiplier seems fair, but free jeeps and tanks, not so much. I strongly disagree with the ISK bonus - Sp ok, but ISK should be awarded according to the contract, stated contract bonuses based on tangible secondary objectives, salvage.from destruction, and seized assets. Having a magic ISK printing machine appear due to a kill streak is a bit arcadey. What if a 10 person killstreak was a bonus in the contract kind of like in sports |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:42:00 -
[114] - Quote
first of all....this thread is one big troll, so this entire idea started out as a joke....LOL
second, kill streaks have no place in Dust 514. I buy my tanks and i dont want anyone telling me i cant use it just because i havent killed enough of the enemy team....It just doesnt work with the game mechanics.
Lol at the EVE guy seeing the merc go, "Hey buddy, i just got 50 kills! send an Orbital Strike here dude!"
*EVE player Orbital Strikes the merc*
(funny but wouldnt happen, mechanics dont work that way either) |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:44:00 -
[115] - Quote
Draco Dustflier wrote:what would happen is that a corp would decide that they want their dusties to lose less loadouts in game so that they don't have to pay as much. they would use the killstreak system to encourage their dusties to camp, however they would have to make these killstreaks difficult to obtain so that they don't end up losing isk because they keep dropping tanks everywhere. this is how i would do it:
7-killstreak- weak orbital strike 13-killstreak-standard jeep 21-killstreak- standard tank 33-killstreak- standard dropship 47-killstreak- prototype jeep 65-killstreak- prototype tank 87-killstreak- prototype dropship 100-killstreak- the nuke beam from the future vision trailer. 150-killstreak- 50 of each of your fittings for free
my numbers are probably pretty high, but remember, this is designed to save isk by cutting down on deaths.
THIS I ALSO AGREE WITH OP |
Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:44:00 -
[116] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:Frank Devine wrote:If that is what you want go back to COD your a ignorant troll
no you are the idiot here.
kill streaks encourage camping. encourages people to not get skills in the game itself. learn how to play the game how it is and stop whining to make it like CoD MW. CoD never had all this b.s. until MW came out. no one cares how much it sold. you can have a lil cookie for saying it sold the most copies or whatever record it broke. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:48:00 -
[117] - Quote
Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. Much instead of making devs push for innovation we get the same **** over and over again attracting the same asshat players that like easy mode. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:49:00 -
[118] - Quote
Kill streaks need to be added. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:51:00 -
[119] - Quote
Johnny Guilt wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. Much instead of making devs push for innovation we get the same **** over and over again attracting the same asshat players that dont like new things
What innovation? name one thing that is unique in this game and ill name five that do the same and two that do it better
FANBOYS |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:55:00 -
[120] - Quote
Aim asist = skill ? Mag no aim asist just lag asist ha ha COD not sure if it has aim asist Dust 514 heard it has aim asist
I like the vehicles just as they are now.No kill streak vehicles or orbital strike(ps a eve player is the one firing the orbital strike) But I would like kill streak music like in Mag.That was cool. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2012.07.30 20:56:00 -
[121] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:What innovation? name one thing that is unique in this game and ill name five that do the same and two that do it better
Hooking up a Console MMO to a PC MMO for better or for worse, DUST style.
Alternatively, MAG sized battles for a Console (I realize that DUST does not do this, but this is an example of innovation in today's world). |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:06:00 -
[122] - Quote
Johnny Guilt wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. Much instead of making devs push for innovation we get the same **** over and over again attracting the same asshat players that like easy mode.
Many Game developers have screwed up trying to be like COD and ignoring the long term fan base that made their game unique. We know that 11-13-2012 that many of you will be moving on to other games on that date.Some of us will be sticking around the eve universe for some years to come. To all Thank You for your ideas! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:07:00 -
[123] - Quote
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:What innovation? name one thing that is unique in this game and ill name five that do the same and two that do it better Hooking up a Console MMO to a PC MMO for better or for worse, DUST style. Alternatively, MAG sized battles for a Console (I realize that DUST does not do this, but this is an example of innovation in today's world).
Full blown market with working in-game economy. Actual death and loss of fittings upon death. Integrated skill system that does not inhibit a player from learning everything as long as time is invested. Replay value and staying power. (COD will just make a new one for 60 bucks in 6 months) |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:14:00 -
[124] - Quote
Please allow me to correct myself. I don't remember playing COD when killstreaks gave you any advantage, but I thought were taken from Unreal Tournament (KILL STREEEEK!!!, HEADSHOT!!!) as a cool incentive keeping track of your current kills without dying, but nothing more.
If the OP intends for this to be a bonus to damage or something, then no I would not promote this at all. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:16:00 -
[125] - Quote
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:people are nuts with this:
"go back to COD!!! go back to HALO"
I'M BRINGING HALO UP IN THIS PLACE!!! |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:18:00 -
[126] - Quote
fred orpaul wrote: Thank you! a lot of game producers believe this BS and its made for a lot of boring inhomogeneous games.
I mean when halo came out it did very well because it was a good party game and was really the first real entrance of FPS in to console, and no golden eye doesn't count. how ever other game producers went ohh look how well they did that must be the secret formula two guns Regening health lets do that.
Same thing happened with the "Realistic shooters" like COD and BF. Every one wanted to be them. The only problem being that well designed and different(for a shooter) shooters like resistance fall of man get butchered in their second release to fit the mold of "how the best game ever is made", or classic games like wolfinstine 3D get brought back for no reason because the original feel that made them so great is gone.
conformity is a bad habit, it makes it hard to make a name for your self. All long lived successful game franchises made their name by breaking the mold, from Quake to halo to BF to COD to assassins creed, They brought some thing new to the table, some thing the video game industry hates to do now, and succeeded fantastically for it.
This could be a major Paradigm shift for gaming or it could be another clone done a hundred times over.
Which do you want?
PS I know ending in a question is troll bait but ........what ever.
First, actually the game that all online fps games follow is Tribes. It was the number one selling fps game. Second, CoD is an arcade game not a simulation. But you were right about BF being a simulation.
CCP will do with Dust 514 as they have done with Eve, make it unique. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:21:00 -
[127] - Quote
Abner Kalen wrote:Please allow me to correct myself. I don't remember playing COD when killstreaks gave you any advantage, but I thought were taken from Unreal Tournament (KILL STREEEEK!!!, HEADSHOT!!!) as a cool incentive keeping track of your current kills without dying, but nothing more.
If the OP intends for this to be a bonus to damage or something, then no I would not promote this at all.
I remember when UT came out. It was freakin annoying when it would tell you so and so was on a kill streak or he made a headshot. At least they didn't have kill streak rewards. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:53:00 -
[128] - Quote
I'm not opposed to rewarding a player who goes on a 5/10/20 Kill steak with some extra War Points. I feel a kill streak is helpful to a team in some regards. Similar to an assist or a hack.
5 kill steak = +25 WP 10 kill streak = +50 WP 20 kill streak = +100 WP
Anything other than WP just does not make sense, IMO.
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Ludwig Van HeadShotin
118
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:56:00 -
[129] - Quote
I don't usually participate in forums, but when I do, I'm probably drunk. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:57:00 -
[130] - Quote
Ludwig Van HeadShotin wrote:I don't usually participate in forums, but when I do, I'm probably drunk.
Best post I've seen all week. |
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Ludwig Van HeadShotin
118
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:01:00 -
[131] - Quote
Sojuro Ryo wrote:Ludwig Van HeadShotin wrote:I don't usually participate in forums, but when I do, I'm probably drunk. Best post I've seen all week.
*throws up* Shanks Mann... |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:05:00 -
[132] - Quote
5 kills= killing spree 10kills= riot 20kills=bloodbath
Kill feed would be much more epic if they were included. |
Ludwig Van HeadShotin
118
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:09:00 -
[133] - Quote
hey protoman, me and you were tearing it up last night. gg |
Furrow33
21
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:18:00 -
[134] - Quote
Hell no to killstreaks. That is the main reason i stopped playing cod. I hate that crap.
Eve universe is bigger and better than that.
Zion TCD |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:26:00 -
[135] - Quote
In a match:
5 Kill streak (infantry) = AI mocks you (It took you long enough to figure out which way to point that thing).
15 Kill streak (vehicle) = AI mocks you (Congratulations, you now officially know how to ride around in a tritanium can.)
15 Kill streak (infantry) = AI asks (Running low on ammo yet?) and highlights the closest friendly nano hive/supply depot.
25 Kill streak (no hacks in a skirmish game mode, objectives have been controlled by enemy for over 50% of game duration) = AI mocks you (You do know that you're supposed to help capture objectives, right?)
25 Kill streak = AI teases you (Aren't we the little avatar of death.)
Out of match: Keep track of highest kill streak on character sheet.
Add in corresponding medals/awards that have no gameplay value, but can be displayed to other players. |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:29:00 -
[136] - Quote
Kill streaks are boring and irrelevent. You want a reward for killing lots of people in a row? Check the isk in your wallet.. thats all the reward you will ever need in New Eden not some bright colored text that pops up on the screen that helps you feel good about yourself. Nothing is free brother, so when you see a tank you dont think ooo that guy had a 7 kill.streak you think "that guy is a.tank pilot, he put time and.money into getting that and its going to feel great when i kill him!"
See? More.meaningful.
Sorry about the sloppy writing! Dont text and drive kids! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:38:00 -
[137] - Quote
Ire's thug wrote:Kill streaks are boring and irrelevent. You want a reward for killing lots of people in a row? Check the isk in your wallet.. thats all the reward you will ever need in New Eden not some bright colored text that pops up on the screen that helps you feel good about yourself. Nothing is free brother, so when you see a tank you dont think ooo that guy had a 7 kill.streak you think "that guy is a.tank pilot, he put time and.money into getting that and its going to feel great when i kill him!"
See? More.meaningful.
Sorry about the sloppy writing! Dont text and drive kids!
yes. Mercs on the ground shouldnt look at a marauder and go, "Oh, ill just get out my nades."
they should go, "****, thats a marauder" *calls in team to bring it down* |
Silas Krisolo
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:41:00 -
[138] - Quote
Killstreaks are a bad mechanic, through and through.
They are most definitely cool; there's no doubt about that. They make Call of Duty very enjoyable and fun - for the team that is already winning.
For the losing team, it's absolute hell. You're already down by three captures or 15 kills, and now someone that is already kicking your butt has access to an AC-130 or an air strike? Please. That's a dumb mechanic; there's no way around. Call of Duty does a great job of dressing it up and making it look integral to the game, but the hard truth of the matter is if you took away the killstreaks, the game would be a thousand times more competitive.
Long story short; no to this idea. Killstreaks are a poorly balanced, poorly implemented mechanic that rewards the team/player that is already being rewarded in the form of good performance. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:44:00 -
[139] - Quote
I'm just going to point out that this is a mixed arms game. Making a playstyle (vehicles for example) locked behind a completely unrelated playstyle (infantry pew-pew) would kill that. Why artificially limit strategies in an alternate reality MMO? It isn't arena based, it is one universe, one war.
A bounty system where the WP awarded for taking a person down increase with every kill they make would have merit though. So +63 for taking down the person after his 13th kill for example. Would go well with minor nods for headshots and other "skill kill" points.
Super powers for winning teams means economic warfare would be non-viable, since only the winning team is going to be able to call in the big guns. Simple NO!
The reason they work in COD is simply psychology. Due to the crappy P2P connection, you alternate between excellent rounds and hell-on-earth. The randomness of who can pull off the first few kills allows a lottery for the snowball effect. Everyone gets their "treat" occasionally, and psych 101 tells us that inconsistent rewards are the most addictive. See gambling addiction. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:46:00 -
[140] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:I'm just going to point out that this is a mixed arms game. Making a playstyle (vehicles for example) locked behind a completely unrelated playstyle (infantry pew-pew) would kill that. Why artificially limit strategies in an alternate reality MMO? It isn't arena based, it is one universe, one war.
A bounty system where the WP awarded for taking a person down increase with every kill they make would have merit though. So +63 for taking down the person after his 13th kill for example. Would go well with minor nods for headshots and other "skill kill" points.
Super powers for winning teams means economic warfare would be non-viable, since only the winning team is going to be able to call in the big guns. Simple NO!
every once in a while you get one of these guys who sees the bigger picture lol |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.07.30 22:51:00 -
[141] - Quote
Maximus Stryker wrote:I'm not opposed to rewarding a player who goes on a 5/10/20 Kill steak with some extra War Points. I feel a kill streak is helpful to a team in some regards. Similar to an assist or a hack.
5 kill steak = +25 WP 10 kill streak = +50 WP 20 kill streak = +100 WP
Anything other than WP just does not make sense, IMO.
That is way too high. Obscenely in fact. +1WP/Kill is the most I could see. This is not a kill focused game. Kills are merely a means to an ends. I imagine some crazy pacifist gallente corp will eventually show up that wins matches while never killing. Food for thought. |
C FOR CORRUPTiON
3
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:01:00 -
[142] - Quote
kill streak a must have |
MUDMASTEI2
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:25:00 -
[143] - Quote
How about a KDR streak? |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:41:00 -
[144] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two DUST HARDER DUSTARD |
Absol Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
28
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:43:00 -
[145] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. COD does take skill its called gungame
Funny that my roomates only play cod when they are drunk yet play bf3 when their sober lmfao just an observation not a flame or troll. |
Entruv
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:46:00 -
[146] - Quote
Absol Evoxazon wrote:DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. COD does take skill its called gungame Funny that my roomates only play cod when they are drunk yet play bf3 when their sober lmfao just an observation not a flame or troll.
Some games are more fun drunk then sober, or maybe they play better drunk
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Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:53:00 -
[147] - Quote
Luther Mandrix wrote:Aim asist = skill ? Mag no aim asist just lag asist ha ha COD not sure if it has aim asist Dust 514 heard it has aim asist
I like the vehicles just as they are now.No kill streak vehicles or orbital strike(ps a eve player is the one firing the orbital strike) But I would like kill streak music like in Mag.That was cool.
yes MW has aim assit.
dust has super little aim assit. the only way i even notice it is if im not moving at all and someone passes in front of me.
i agree that kill streaks goes against what dust is about. you get SP for kills. you get ISK. thats your kill streak reward.
dont start turning this game into CoD. thats the reason i like it, because its nothing like CoD. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:04:00 -
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Sw3RvE wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:Aim asist = skill ? Mag no aim asist just lag asist ha ha COD not sure if it has aim asist Dust 514 heard it has aim asist
I like the vehicles just as they are now.No kill streak vehicles or orbital strike(ps a eve player is the one firing the orbital strike) But I would like kill streak music like in Mag.That was cool. yes MW has aim assit. dust has super little aim assit. the only way i even notice it is if im not moving at all and someone passes in front of me. i agree that kill streaks goes against what dust is about. you get SP for kills. you get ISK. thats your kill streak reward. dont start turning this game into CoD. thats the reason i like it, because its nothing like CoD.
The aim assist in DUST is almost as bad as it is in COD if not worse in some scenarios. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:06:00 -
[149] - Quote
This is ridiculous. Why is this even being considered. I do not post long post often, but I honestly feel the need to express my absolute abhoration at this idea.
Though Dust does not prove to be a game that all people can play, I have over my course of time in the Beta begun to see a community forming. This community revolves around play styles. We may not all be Assaults or RE users, but we tend to gravitate towards those players who do share a kinship of play.
But I have begun to feel that the Devs on this game are bending to every whim and ache of a fledgling nation. This cannot be. I may not design games for a living or even have an idea of what it takes to do so, but I do have one thing and that is perspective. Perspective that not every idea can form and become part of the whole. A perspective that sometimes, you have to take the bad with the good, and most importantly, that to succeed does not always mean you must follow in the footsteps of giants but blaze across an uncharted universe.
We come into this game all new, all unknowing, and yet have the power to change EVERYTHING. I think many fail to see this, that we are the architects on which this game will be built. We cry out to our makers in disdain over one thing or another, but we never once think of where this will leave our brothers in arms. We sing our praise when things go our way, shout our disgust when someone says they can't. Why must we emulate everything else?
COD became what it was by being something other than what games had to offer. battlefield dug its own legacy through a unique scope of play. Are we to commit the sin of normality or can we become a maverick in the industry, just as they were?
I firmly believe in the potential of this game, but we cannot allow it to become every other monster. We must fight for our unique freedoms, not our conformity. This idea cannot take form. It will lead down a path that we cannot afford if we are to keep our community sacred and pure, as Dust should be.
This is not to say that we cannot improve our use an idea, but a whole format? That in itself will make this no longer an experience, but more of a monotony; A shadow of its possibility with only a fraction of its potential.
I know my opinion may not matter or even be read or cared for, but I don't think I am alone. I don't think that I can watch another copycat. I came here for freedom. Do not offer me chains. Do not cosign me to bondage. We must find our own way. This is OUR world. This is OUR life.
This is our Dust. |
Green Wedges
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:09:00 -
[150] - Quote
i would like killstreaks if the reward is more experience. like 3 kill streak is 150, 5 is 200, ect. not randomly spawning objects like op wants. but thats just my opinion
edit: i just realized someone already said this |
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Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
62
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:17:00 -
[151] - Quote
I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:18:00 -
[152] - Quote
Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:21:00 -
[153] - Quote
Sw3RvE wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:Aim asist = skill ? Mag no aim asist just lag asist ha ha COD not sure if it has aim asist Dust 514 heard it has aim asist
I like the vehicles just as they are now.No kill streak vehicles or orbital strike(ps a eve player is the one firing the orbital strike) But I would like kill streak music like in Mag.That was cool. yes MW has aim assit. dust has super little aim assit. the only way i even notice it is if im not moving at all and someone passes in front of me. i agree that kill streaks goes against what dust is about. you get SP for kills. you get ISK. thats your kill streak reward. dont start turning this game into CoD. thats the reason i like it, because its nothing like CoD.
DUST has tones of aim assist what game have you been playing |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
62
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:23:00 -
[154] - Quote
Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield.
i was actually thinking of mag but didnt want to say that lol
But BF does have something like that but is that a bad thing. It promotes more team play then camping i think |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:24:00 -
[155] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Sw3RvE wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:Aim asist = skill ? Mag no aim asist just lag asist ha ha COD not sure if it has aim asist Dust 514 heard it has aim asist
I like the vehicles just as they are now.No kill streak vehicles or orbital strike(ps a eve player is the one firing the orbital strike) But I would like kill streak music like in Mag.That was cool. yes MW has aim assit. dust has super little aim assit. the only way i even notice it is if im not moving at all and someone passes in front of me. i agree that kill streaks goes against what dust is about. you get SP for kills. you get ISK. thats your kill streak reward. dont start turning this game into CoD. thats the reason i like it, because its nothing like CoD. DUST has tones of aim assist what game have you been playing
checkout the lets talk game mechanics thread. Somebody said Circle strafing and ADSing is the same thing |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:24:00 -
[156] - Quote
Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield.
Battlefield3 certainly was not the first game though to do this.
Warhawk, MAG, KILLZONE2 & KILLZONE3 also did this too, and those are just a few. Resistance: Fall of Man is certainly one too infact.
I actually have it still. No one is online. I miss the days of R:FoM. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:26:00 -
[157] - Quote
Blunt Smkr wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. i was actually thinking of mag but didnt want to say that lol But BF does have something like that but is that a bad thing. It promotes more team play then camping i think Yes, because it stifles creativity. "don't reinvent the wheel" everyone says. How can you design a better wheel without doing just that? |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:27:00 -
[158] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. Battlefield3 certainly was not the first game though to do this. Warhawk, MAG, KILLZONE2 & KILLZONE3 also did this too, and those are just a few. Resistance: Fall of Man is certainly one too infact. I actually have it still. No one is online. I miss the days of R:FoM.
Everybody still plays custom matches on RFoM |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:32:00 -
[159] - Quote
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:people are nuts with this:
"go back to COD!!! go back to HALO"
THIS GAME. Is a beta version of halo one |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:50:00 -
[160] - Quote
I still say we should have streaks based on War Points, NOT just kills - get (for example) 200 WP without dying, get a +5% bonus to your SP earnings (or your War Points, which affect both ISK and SP post-match) for every action you perform from then on without dying. 200 WP means 4 kills if you do NOTHING else that helps the team. They could have higher WP streaks that add an additional bonus. If you hit (again, just an example) 600 WP without dying, you could be given an additional +5% modifier to WP earnings (total 10% bonus), then at 1500 it could add another 5% for a total of 15% bonus WP.
That not only makes it easier (assuming they're still running with the "WP = vehicle requests" system) to call in your Tank/Dropship/whatever if you're on a streak, but it also means (assuming the current "WP = ISK/SP modifier) you earn more and gain more SPs for surviving that long.
Seems reasonable to me. And as I said, having it apply only as a modifier to SP would work reasonably well too. |
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:56:00 -
[161] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. Battlefield3 certainly was not the first game though to do this. Warhawk, MAG, KILLZONE2 & KILLZONE3 also did this too, and those are just a few. Resistance: Fall of Man is certainly one too infact. I actually have it still. No one is online. I miss the days of R:FoM. Everybody still plays custom matches on RFoM
... Bull. Because, I have been on there a lot this year, and every time it says no available servers. It cannot even find me a match.
I miss the Wal-Mart server though. One hit kills, and just epic killings. I miss the character customization, and maps too. |
Draconaes Khor
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:22:00 -
[162] - Quote
Time for serious reply:
Killstreaks of any kind in Dust?
No.
Why should there be? What possible reason could an mmofps of this kind, expanding upon the EVE Online universe, have for killstreaks?
You want to reward people playing well by getting several kills without dying? Why? They are already rewarded by costing the enemy team a fair amount of isk, and dead mercs take longer to interfere with objectives. That's one of the primary rewards and metrics for success in EVE Online as well: draining the enemy's resources faster than they drain yours.
Why should a merc have to get a certain number of kills before his commander will agree to send down one of his tanks? He already bought it, but must meet an arbitrary requirement to land it? This makes no sense. Generals don't wait for their soldiers to start winning before sending in support.
What is the reasoning behind adding killstreaks besides "COD does it."? I think we need a stronger reason than that. Until we get one, killstreaks shouldn't be added.
In the interest of encouraging discussion, and not just shooting the idea down, does anyone have a good reason for adding killstreaks? |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:57:00 -
[163] - Quote
No. Gtfo OP. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:00:00 -
[164] - Quote
Draconaes Khor wrote:Time for serious reply:
Killstreaks of any kind in Dust?
No.
Why should there be? What possible reason could an mmofps of this kind, expanding upon the EVE Online universe, have for killstreaks?
You want to reward people playing well but getting several kills without dying? Why? They are already rewarded by costing the enemy team a fair amount of isk, and dead mercs take longer to interfere with objectives. That's one of the primary rewards and metrics for success in EVE Online as well: draining the enemy's resources faster than they drain yours.
Why should a merc have to get a certain number of kills before his commander will agree to send down one of his tanks? He already bought it, but must meet an arbitrary requirement to land it? This makes no sense. Generals don't wait for their soldiers to start winning before sending in support.
What is the reasoning behind adding killstreaks besides "COD does it."? I think we need a stronger reason than that. Until we get one, killstreaks shouldn't be added.
In the interest of encouraging discussion, and not just shooting the idea down, does anyone have a good reason for adding killstreaks?
This speaks so much truth he farts and it raises the dead. +1
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DrunkMonk 1
Walmart Brand Mercenaries
26
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:10:00 -
[165] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me no |
Dro2072
Doomheim
35
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:36:00 -
[166] - Quote
i dont want to post here but its 1:30 am and im so tired i dont care. what the genius said is true COD is the "gungame" but this IS THE "METAGAME"! nuff said i think.
he reads post *OP guys head explodes*
now ccp guy who reopened this thread what is the matter with you? before you locked it almost everyone disagreed with the OP and even after you did the majority still do. this topic doesnt need to be discussed further the majority of the community do not want KS. so relock or delete this thread its making me question my faith in you, dont do that please. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:42:00 -
[167] - Quote
Dro2072 wrote:i dont want to post here but its 1:30 am and im so tired i dont care. what the genius said is true COD is the "gungame" but this IS THE "METAGAME"! nuff said i think.
he reads post *OP guys head explodes*
now ccp guy who reopened this thread what is the matter with you? before you locked it almost everyone disagreed with the OP and even after you did the majority still do. this topic doesnt need to be discussed further the majority of the community do not want KS. so relock or delete this thread its making me question my faith in you, dont do that please.
lol just...go to bed.
couple good points tho, funny too |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:14:00 -
[168] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:
What innovation? name one thing that is unique in this game and ill name five that do the same and two that do it better
FANBOYS
I just could not keep reading after this, how about, buying your guns a dropsuits, how about orbital strikes from real player from EVE on P(KITTEN) C, how about cross plataform gameplay. Now tell me what other game you can play on ps3 that needs somebody playing on the PC to work together to take over a star sistem. YOU SAID YOU COULD NAME FIVE, I DARE YOU I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
AND HELL NO TO KILLSTREAK, unless is just to brag on the battlefield, or to implement a bounty on somebody, -XPROTOMAN has a 5 players killstreak, XPROTOMAN has a 10 players killstreak, XPOTOMAN got killed by From Costa Rica (and i would win extra money for killing him)
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:55:00 -
[169] - Quote
A Aura A.I. type voice making mocking comments would be fine, I don't want to hear about somebody else's kill streak, and any advantage in battle would be bad. Sp bonus would encourage older characters to grind new players for sp, not good for growing game. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:58:00 -
[170] - Quote
A Aura A.I. type voice making mocking comments would be fine, I don't want to hear about somebody else's kill streak, and any advantage in battle would be bad. Sp bonus would encourage older characters to grind new players for sp, not good for growing game. |
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:59:00 -
[171] - Quote
posted same thing twice by mistake. |
Qn1f3
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2012.07.31 07:06:00 -
[172] - Quote
This thread is epically long and should be considered a successful troll. The fun fact is that the troll is an impersonator! I think this is hilarious and created some royal laughter within me. Even tho I feel bad for the impersonated getting a little stomped until someone realized the truth.
However the thread raises and important issue and should be discussed thoroughly. I've have read it all and liked a lot of posts in this thread. Mostly them that has actually contributed to the cause of discussion and not just threw **** at the threadstarter(OP?, not used hanging on english forums so short of abbrevations and glossary).
My personal opinion is that Killstreaks should never be implemented and should never in any situation grant greater power to those already mastering this aspect of a game. I agree with the people naming UT in the early days(even tho I prefer Q3 and getting close and personal with the gauntlet). But that style does not belong in Dust as I see it.
To implement such feature only promotes several negative aspects of this game, as someone beautifully put it "KDR-whoring", KS-ing, camping(spawn and other) and using any kind of method to their advantage. If I would've wanted this, there are several other titles that already implement such features to promote this behaviour within it's playerbase.
I myself am not attracted to this type of gameplay even tho maintaining a positive KDR is something I want to maintain. But that is mainly because there is nothing else showing your other efforts in a good way. As I understand the only thing is to notice good players while the match lasts or to have it reflected in your SP/ISK rewards afterwards.
I wish for some kind of support or team-effort stat that shows that you after all have done something of worth for the team while the fighting goes on.
Promote, reward, embrace support players within the game mechanics!
Regards, Qn1f3 |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.07.31 08:29:00 -
[173] - Quote
Summary of me flashing through this thread: 1. OP is a biological evil twin brother who has probably the Elders of New Eden chasing aster his rear-end, so his days are numbered. He is probably also crying at how sniping in Dust is realistic and not like CoD or Battlefield. 2. Kill Streaks in a game with a player-driven economy that works on realism (well sort of...it is sci-fi) are simply out of the question, Dust is like Operation Flashpoint or ARMA Or Star Wars Battlefront, not CoD or Battlefield. WP streaks for doing a lot of things to gain them are debatable, because atm good players get plenty enough as it is to upkeep and profit. Qn1f3 is correct in that it promotes KDR whoring which personally I'm against, though many would disagree with me. Seems fair enough. |
Mafty Navilles Erin
Legitimate Businessman's Club
8
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Posted - 2012.07.31 10:03:00 -
[174] - Quote
7/10.
Nice trolling. You got 9 pages going, so gratz. Now go back under your bridge.
Now on a serious note, Dust needs to iron out that basic FPS part quickly and start connecting to SiSi. We're only getting the FPS experience here yet. Peeps (including myself) need to experience the grand scale of what Dust is meant for. We're not getting the whole picture yet. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.07.31 10:09:00 -
[175] - Quote
NO to in game COD style kill streaks, But how about kill streaks at the end of game, saying you get 5 kills then you can get FW faction loot from that NPC faction and then when player corps come in the CEO can set these kill streak rewards to give out to players automatically |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.07.31 10:23:00 -
[176] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. Battlefield3 certainly was not the first game though to do this. Warhawk, MAG, KILLZONE2 & KILLZONE3 also did this too, and those are just a few. Resistance: Fall of Man is certainly one too infact. I actually have it still. No one is online. I miss the days of R:FoM.
What about the other two resistance games? If you looking for some1 to play it with say so |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.31 12:17:00 -
[177] - Quote
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:ha you have no idea what skill is, I bet if you were put in any game from cod to halo you'd get wrecked by people like me
yeah but its not cod, im sure if you played unreal you would get wreaked by people like me. CCP where are the shield belts? |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.31 12:27:00 -
[178] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote: What if a 10 person killstreak was a bonus in the contract kind of like in sports
Thats makes sense |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.31 18:49:00 -
[179] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Blunt Smkr wrote:I hope they dont add killstreaks like cod cause it only promotes camping wich is stupid for a game that is supposed to be a team based game. If they do add a killsteak system it should be like a isk bonuse. Better yet have a medal system for doing certain things in a match an each medal is worth so much isk. That way its not all about the kills cause a guy could earn medals from hacking or even reviving a team mate. Battlefield. Battlefield3 certainly was not the first game though to do this. Warhawk, MAG, KILLZONE2 & KILLZONE3 also did this too, and those are just a few. Resistance: Fall of Man is certainly one too infact. I actually have it still. No one is online. I miss the days of R:FoM. Everybody still plays custom matches on RFoM ... Bull. Because, I have been on there a lot this year, and every time it says no available servers. It cannot even find me a match. I miss the Wal-Mart server though. One hit kills, and just epic killings. I miss the character customization, and maps too.
I'm on RFoM right now and have a full list of multiple games and people still playing. |
PAY TO WIN
Air Raiders
84
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Posted - 2012.07.31 18:52:00 -
[180] - Quote
COD > Dust
COD is at least an FPS Dust is...............sigh smh |
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Adaris Manpher
70
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:00:00 -
[181] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
Well from the way I see it this kill streak idea is not good for two reasons.
1. When the game is finished it is going to cost war points to call in HAVs, LAVs, and drop ships so there will not be that many on the battle field because it will cost to have them there in the first place
2. It is not fair at all I have never gotten a 25 kill streak most i have gotten is 10. unless your a super good player like protoman and others you would never be able to call in anything.
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-Foxhound/-ZionTCD |
Oryx Offerton
Doomheim
61
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:12:00 -
[182] - Quote
Everybody calm down. |
Quiverous
Dark Harlequin
37
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:40:00 -
[183] - Quote
-1 on kill streak rewards.
Random input of resources we should source ourselves is out of sync with the games core philosophy. However it occurs to me that there is a trophy room on the ps3. Kill streak info could be displayed there along with a stack of other stats. All this is vanity orientated information and has no place in game mechanics at all. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:45:00 -
[184] - Quote
CCP delete this thread.
It was a troll thread made by a guy impersonating another player and no one seriously wants this.
The kill streak idea is a cancer that will kill Dust 514 and no one should seriously consider kill streaks for the game. |
DILLIGAD
50
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:50:00 -
[185] - Quote
Adaris Manpher wrote:DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me Well from the way I see it this kill streak idea is not good for two reasons. 1. When the game is finished it is going to cost war points to call in HAVs, LAVs, and drop ships so there will not be that many on the battle field because it will cost to have them there in the first place 2. It is not fair at all I have never gotten a 25 kill streak most i have gotten is 10. unless your a super good player like protoman and others you would never be able to call in anything. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ -Foxhound/-ZionTCD
I have gone 36-0 in a game with an AR LOL. I have got 25 killstreaks many times. Now about me wanting them. Kill streaks are lame and will make peeps focusing on killing rather than objectives. And now bring out your scouts with nanohives or HAVs lol. Camp your hearts out! Dust is all about objectives gaming. Nuff said! Doink and Double Doink! |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:54:00 -
[186] - Quote
CCP, why don't we have a facepalm or facedesk smily face? |
PROJ3CT OMEGA
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:59:00 -
[187] - Quote
Rorek IronBlood wrote:That is not me. That is one of the morons trying to pose as me.
I should be flattered they even cared enough to create an alternate account.
Edit:
Just report this thread. The fact that these inept pisant children have to create an alternate account of me is just childish.
I highly doubt this, as you cannot create a account with the same name as someone else, so you are either a bad liar or have a poor password and give your email out. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.07.31 20:03:00 -
[188] - Quote
PROJ3CT OMEGA wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:That is not me. That is one of the morons trying to pose as me.
I should be flattered they even cared enough to create an alternate account.
Edit:
Just report this thread. The fact that these inept pisant children have to create an alternate account of me is just childish. I highly doubt this, as you cannot create a account with the same name as someone else, so you are either a bad liar or have a poor password and give your email out.
facepalm yourself dude.
the impostor used a capitol i in blood instead of an L.
click the name of the first post n u can see that. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.07.31 20:06:00 -
[189] - Quote
Is this thread still up? I'll give three reasons as to why killstreak rewards are a bad idea.
1. Removal of key features. For example, interacting with EVE players to call down orbital bombardments, calling in a dropship or LAV and carrying two (or six) teammates a couple of kilometers to get to the front lines at the start of the match, or calling in a tank half a km away and bombarding the crap out of something.
2. It renders ISK irrelevant. If you get tanks from killstreaks, there's no point in having isk, even if you still pay for the tank. By the time you have 25 kills, the game will nearly be over. There's no point in spawning a tank at the 90% mark. By extension, you won't spawn tanks, so you'll hoard isk.
3. It would ruin the aim of the game. The aim of the game is to conquer planets, not to kill scores of enemies. You may argue that to conquer, you need to kill scores. Not necessarily. I've won matches defending when the attackers have had 100 tickets left, and I've won matches attacking when we've had 30 tickets left. It's not dependent on kills or deaths, but on taking the objectives. |
DrunkMonk 1
Walmart Brand Mercenaries
26
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:26:00 -
[190] - Quote
In the arena the Unreal Tournament announcer should yell
Killing Spree at 5 kills
Rampage at 10 kills
Dominating at 15 kills
Unstoppable at 20 kills
Godlike at 25 kills
there are your killing sprees |
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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:27:00 -
[191] - Quote
DrunkMonk 1 wrote:In the arena the Unreal Tournament announcer should yell
Killing Spree at 5 kills
Rampage at 10 kills
Dominating at 15 kills
Unstoppable at 20 kills
Godlike at 25 kills
there are your killing sprees
old school killstreaks>>> |
DrunkMonk 1
Walmart Brand Mercenaries
26
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:36:00 -
[192] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:DrunkMonk 1 wrote:In the arena the Unreal Tournament announcer should yell
Killing Spree at 5 kills
Rampage at 10 kills
Dominating at 15 kills
Unstoppable at 20 kills
Godlike at 25 kills
there are your killing sprees old school killstreaks>>>
I like old school killstreaks they let everyone know you were doing well and made you feel bad ass but didnt reward you beyond. that. |
Ludwig Van HeadShotin
118
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:38:00 -
[193] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
how about no.. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:43:00 -
[194] - Quote
Ludwig Van HeadShotin wrote:DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me how about no..
Kill streaks award good players... I should get rewarded for carrying my team |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:00:00 -
[195] - Quote
To: Xprotoman,
Yo'!
I just wanted to say thanks man. You were right there are a lot of servers actually up on Resistance: Fall of Man. I found out what was wrong. I was set to N. American availability, but when I switched to worldwide it suddenly was able to find everyone. Weird glitch if you ask me. Still. I can finally play some more. Sweet!
Edit:
Actually it looks doubtful. I checked all of the servers on list at the moment -- all of them suck horribly. Not worth the time or drama. Still thanks though. |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:03:00 -
[196] - Quote
PROJ3CT OMEGA wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:That is not me. That is one of the morons trying to pose as me.
I should be flattered they even cared enough to create an alternate account.
Edit:
Just report this thread. The fact that these inept pisant children have to create an alternate account of me is just childish. I highly doubt this, as you cannot create a account with the same name as someone else, so you are either a bad liar or have a poor password and give your email out.
Check the number of likes. He changed the L lowercase to an I. 8 to 248 likes... BIG DIFFERENCE. Now, for the rest of you. STFU, this is a troll thread. DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THIS IDEA. The original poster is a fake account, created by some noob kiddie who has a ton of butthurt. They (all characters and PSN and possibly IP) should be banned and this thread deleted PERMANENTLY. Trying to stoke a flame that's evil... YOU MUST DIE HEATHEN! Also, if you don't believe me, take both names, copy and paste them in MS WORD and then take both and convert them to an all caps font. Identity theft is a serious crime, and can ruin reputations. Its a serious federal offense in most countries if not all, and people who do it are convicted with either fines of $100k-500k or decades of prison. Also, lawsuits can occur, and you're pretty much screwed for life. So really, OUST THESE PEOPLE from DUST 514.
That is all.
Random Accusation- (Also, I believe ALMIGHTY STATIUS was the person... not sure, but he's literally the ONLY person to respond positively to the idea, but I won't hold it against him IF it was. However, whoever it was should be permanently banned, that way they can stick with stupid games and when they finally age enough to the point that DUST 514 is realized to be amazing, they'll be screwed.)*
*don't consider this as correct or true, its just what I believe temporarily, if proven to be false, I'll change this laters |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:10:00 -
[197] - Quote
Sandromin Hes wrote:PROJ3CT OMEGA wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:That is not me. That is one of the morons trying to pose as me.
I should be flattered they even cared enough to create an alternate account.
Edit:
Just report this thread. The fact that these inept pisant children have to create an alternate account of me is just childish. I highly doubt this, as you cannot create a account with the same name as someone else, so you are either a bad liar or have a poor password and give your email out. Check the number of likes. He changed the L lowercase to an I. 8 to 248 likes... BIG DIFFERENCE. Now, for the rest of you. STFU, this is a troll thread. DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THIS IDEA. The original poster is a fake account, created by some noob kiddie who has a ton of butthurt. They (all characters and PSN and possibly IP) should be banned and this thread deleted PERMANENTLY. Trying to stoke a flame that's evil... YOU MUST DIE HEATHEN! Also, if you don't believe me, take both names, copy and paste them in MS WORD and then take both and convert them to an all caps font. Identity theft is a serious crime, and can ruin reputations. Its a serious federal offense in most countries if not all, and people who do it are convicted with either fines of $100k-500k or decades of prison. Also, lawsuits can occur, and you're pretty much screwed for life. So really, OUST THESE PEOPLE from DUST 514. That is all. Random Accusation- (Also, I believe ALMIGHTY STATIUS was the person... not sure, but he's literally the ONLY person to respond positively to the idea, but I won't hold it against him IF it was. However, whoever it was should be permanently banned, that way they can stick with stupid games and when they finally age enough to the point that DUST 514 is realized to be amazing, they'll be screwed.)* *don't consider this as correct or true, its just what I believe temporarily, if proven to be false, I'll change this laters
You need to go play cod and see how fun kill streaks are... thats if you can get them |
Beta Phish
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:14:00 -
[198] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
please go take your ADHD meds |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:57:00 -
[199] - Quote
Longshot Ravenwood wrote:In a match:
5 Kill streak (infantry) = AI mocks you (It took you long enough to figure out which way to point that thing).
15 Kill streak (vehicle) = AI mocks you (Congratulations, you now officially know how to ride around in a tritanium can.)
15 Kill streak (infantry) = AI asks (Running low on ammo yet?) and highlights the closest friendly nano hive/supply depot.
25 Kill streak (no hacks in a skirmish game mode, objectives have been controlled by enemy for over 50% of game duration) = AI mocks you (You do know that you're supposed to help capture objectives, right?)
25 Kill streak = AI teases you (Aren't we the little avatar of death.)
Out of match: Keep track of highest kill streak on character sheet.
Add in corresponding medals/awards that have no gameplay value, but can be displayed to other players.
This could work like advertisements for the Gladiator thing |
Marginalcost
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.07.31 23:47:00 -
[200] - Quote
No Kill Streaks Please. I f you want something, pay for it. |
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Kitt 514
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.08.01 01:23:00 -
[201] - Quote
go back to COD
Ban thread, gas op |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.01 01:51:00 -
[202] - Quote
I think it's worth bringing up an important point in a GM post as to what happened earlier in the thread:
GM Unicorn wrote:Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. OP was a fake version of a legit poster on the forums, AND IS ALREAY BANNED FOR IT.
But the thread was kept open because THERE'S A VALID POINT.
Anyone care to add to my few attempts at looking at the idea of "streaks" constructively? Just saying "no, go back to CoD" isn't giving any real feedback. it's just saying you're refusing to even TRY and see any potential for a good idea as soon as "killstreak" is mentioned.
Why does it have to be only KILL streaks though?
Look back, and you'll see a few posts from me suggesting SP or WP bonuses when you get a large number of WAR POINTS without dying. Nobody's commenting on those attempts at constructive posting though, people are just seeing "killstreak" then seeing red.
Calm down, pay attention, and TRY to think of GOOD ideas, instead of ignoring the potential behind the idea because OP was an idiot. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 01:57:00 -
[203] - Quote
Kitt 514 wrote:go back to COD
Ban thread, gas op
the OP is entitled to his own opinion |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:13:00 -
[204] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Kitt 514 wrote:go back to COD
Ban thread, gas op the OP is entitled to his own opinion
not when its an impostor making a troll post in order to slander another player. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:23:00 -
[205] - Quote
Lurchasaurus wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Kitt 514 wrote:go back to COD
Ban thread, gas op the OP is entitled to his own opinion not when its an impostor making a troll post in order to slander another player.
slander how so, i thought OP made a valid point |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:54:00 -
[206] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Kitt 514 wrote:go back to COD
Ban thread, gas op the OP is entitled to his own opinion not when its an impostor making a troll post in order to slander another player. slander how so, i thought OP made a valid point
Rorek is actually a person with views very diff from OP.
some guy made an alt with the same name but with a capital i instead of an L
all about ruining reps here. the alt has already been banned |
Mikel Dracionas
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
14
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:55:00 -
[207] - Quote
there should be no killstreaks for the simple fact that this is supposed to simulate a war do you honestly think that when a service man or women calls in for assisstance they officer recieving the call asks if the achieved 25 kill for a heli no they tell them they are in route pls dont dumb down this game by making it cater to the my kdr is better then yours crowd |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 03:14:00 -
[208] - Quote
Mikel Dracionas wrote:there should be no killstreaks for the simple fact that this is supposed to simulate a war do you honestly think that when a service man or women calls in for assisstance they officer recieving the call asks if the achieved 25 kill for a heli no they tell them they are in route pls dont dumb down this game by making it cater to the my kdr is better then yours crowd
REALLY THIS YOUR ARGUMENT |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.01 03:15:00 -
[209] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Mikel Dracionas wrote:there should be no killstreaks for the simple fact that this is supposed to simulate a war do you honestly think that when a service man or women calls in for assisstance they officer recieving the call asks if the achieved 25 kill for a heli no they tell them they are in route pls dont dumb down this game by making it cater to the my kdr is better then yours crowd REALLY THIS YOUR ARGUMENT
ITS ALL YOU NEED
Learn to use caps son. |
Swufy Gnomenclatur
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.08.01 03:19:00 -
[210] - Quote
I remember once, long ago... I'd been playing for about 3 weeks, skills slowing improving, arsenal slowly growing... Then, one fateful day, I was coming around the building of Checkpoint B (Not Spawn Camping) and I shot an enemy. Turned, and shot another enemy, then charged down the road and killed the third enemy in a row. One clip, three kills. I was stoked.
What I'm saying is this game already has so much depth in it's design that any killstreak mechanics would ruin the moment. Getting several kills in a row is it's own reward. If you think otherwise, you've spent too much time in a tank or behind a turret... |
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Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:45:00 -
[211] - Quote
GM Unicorn wrote:Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. It seems like our opinions were very clearly expressed |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:47:00 -
[212] - Quote
Ferocitan wrote:-1 is my vote. Killstreaks is for making a shooter only game a bit more rewarding to play. This isn't a shooter only.
Killstreak rewards are for games with free items. In DUST we have to work our asses off to get the cool stuff, meaning we'll appreciate it more, instead of just getting a plane or tank for free ... |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:00:00 -
[213] - Quote
All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well.
I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money?
My vote is no on this idea. |
Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:38:00 -
[214] - Quote
Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea.
now this guy i like ;)
if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? |
killing reaper
5
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:48:00 -
[215] - Quote
please no killstreak rewards we play for skillpoints to earn perks isnt that enough??? i really loved cod but really this is not the game for such a thing and it wont discourage camping |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:56:00 -
[216] - Quote
killstreaks ? hell no. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:19:00 -
[217] - Quote
Can this thread just die.
It's been stated more then enough people don't want kill streak's and their is little to no constructive criticism besides the standard "no kill streaks". |
jus nukem
19
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:25:00 -
[218] - Quote
Killstreaks= camping! plain n simple. KEEP THAT CRAP OUT OF THE GAME |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:31:00 -
[219] - Quote
Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed?
How is quick scoping easy???
One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:44:00 -
[220] - Quote
i want my old school "this player is kicking your ass killstreaks" |
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Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:55:00 -
[221] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? How is quick scoping easy??? One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game
sniping is a skill. quick scoping is not. you obviously know nothing if you think quick scoping is a skill and is how sniping should work. theres a reason the missiles dont go exactly where you aim when you're moving. that concept works when sniping while moving or when sniping a moving target. thats why quickscoping is the most unrealistic and annoying thing in CoD. i bet you suck at sniping on BF3 if you love quick scoping. you know the only reason quick scoping is possible? because they did not make the game correctly if it is possible to do.
sniping is a rewarding skill, try it sometime. oh wait its too hard for you, thats why you want quick scoping.
love the name of the person that made this also... Dustguy... more like CoDguy. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:03:00 -
[222] - Quote
Sw3RvE wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? How is quick scoping easy??? One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game sniping is a skill. quick scoping is not. you obviously know nothing if you think quick scoping is a skill and is how sniping should work. theres a reason the missiles dont go exactly where you aim when you're moving. that concept works when sniping while moving or when sniping a moving target. thats why quickscoping is the most unrealistic and annoying thing in CoD. i bet you suck at sniping on BF3 if you love quick scoping. you know the only reason quick scoping is possible? because they did not make the game correctly if it is possible to do. sniping is a rewarding skill, try it sometime. oh wait its too hard for you, thats why you want quick scoping. love the name of the person that made this also... Dustguy... more like CoDguy.
LOL I quick scoped MAG HALO BF3 and COD |
Hobos-N-Guns
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:18:00 -
[223] - Quote
How about letting the game develope on its own with no outside influence from other fps games. We don't need another COD since one already exists.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:18:00 -
[224] - Quote
12 pages of pointless discussion |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:15:00 -
[225] - Quote
ok so ya I gave up around page 6 so...... I think the OP is wrong about the way to implement a kill streak WP bonus like +20 for 5 kills streak +40 for a 10..... and something like that and someone else had the idea to have a notice in the kill feed that XXXXXX is on a kill streak those I wouldn't mind. but no airstrikes for 5 kills or something ridiculous like that... |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
16
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:21:00 -
[226] - Quote
Draco Dustflier wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. ha you have no idea what skill is, I bet if you were put in any game from cod to halo you'd get wrecked by people like me it takes a hell of a lot more skill to coordinate a strategy that can overcome overpowered enemies. if the lone wolves from CoD went up against a team of players who have any type of plan, you can expect the CoD kiddies to freak out, whine about how overpowered whatever the other team was using is, and then go running back to the only game simple enough for them to understand. i like this post made me smile so true |
xXKillerBXx
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.02 01:00:00 -
[227] - Quote
Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO |
Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:47:00 -
[228] - Quote
MAYBE we could make the War Points accumulated from killing, hacking, healing, etc. and make a temporary currency that lasts until the end of the match to use to buy vehicles, if you were attempting to find a way to limit vehicles. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:51:00 -
[229] - Quote
xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO
why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players? |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:54:00 -
[230] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players?
Because they force they're game style into other games |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:55:00 -
[231] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players?
Same reason why all EVE players are EVEtards or all MAG players are MAGtards. Because a few people on the forums are trollhards. |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
45
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:04:00 -
[232] - Quote
Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around.
COD is garbage. I played it and moved on. COD is not the reason Dust exists, Eve Online is the reason Dust exists. COD uses the same tired game-play from the get-go. Get-kills-for-killstreak-rewards-and-nuke-the-other-team-because-I-can. And half the matches I played people were boosting so there was no real definition of skill. I do not want Dust to turn into a garbage game. Just because a bunch of children(who really shouldn't be playing the game in the first place MA rating and all) doesn't mean it's a good game. |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
45
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:05:00 -
[233] - Quote
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players? Same reason why all EVE players are EVEtards or all MAG players are MAGtards. Because a few people on the forums are trollhards.
I thought you were going to call them Trolltards....lol |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
78
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:12:00 -
[234] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me Wow what a Good idea let just add more unrealistic immersion breaking crap i mean dont real solders get a free jeep for every 5 kills. i also want to be able to power up to super saiyan, take to the air and fight dropships hand to hand.
Seems fair to me
just because you think its a good idea it dont make it one. what about everyone else who dont want it, This is part of eve not some some kiddy game, that gives you little bonus. so its fair for them to say go play COD if you want COD. Trying to change this game in to COD is stupid. these game have almost nothing in common why would even try.
BOO this man!!! |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:49:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think it's worth bringing up an important point in a GM post as to what happened earlier in the thread: GM Unicorn wrote:Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. OP was a fake version of a legit poster on the forums, AND IS ALREAY BANNED FOR IT. But the thread was kept open because THERE'S A VALID POINT. Anyone care to add to my few attempts at looking at the idea of "streaks" constructively? Just saying "no, go back to CoD" isn't giving any real feedback. it's just saying you're refusing to even TRY and see any potential for a good idea as soon as "killstreak" is mentioned. Why does it have to be only KILL streaks though? Look back, and you'll see a few posts from me suggesting SP or WP bonuses when you get a large number of WAR POINTS without dying. Nobody's commenting on those attempts at constructive posting though, people are just seeing "killstreak" then seeing red. Calm down, pay attention, and TRY to think of GOOD ideas, instead of ignoring the potential behind the idea because OP was an idiot.
Even your suggestion still doesnt feel right for me. Final rewards after a battle are already based on how much WP\kills you made throughout the game. Wich means that people who tends to successfully do streaks of any kind will be the same ones that already get the bigger share from a battle.
I already feel like the difference in SP earned is way too important when you finish say 3rd of your team compared to being first in terms of kills. It feels like no matter how much objectives you completed, kills and your final ranking are still playing a huge role in your SP attribution. (less noticeable for ISK)
So kill\objective\support\heal Streaks. No need imo. Would be more usefull to tweak how SP\ISK is distributed than to add something new and not quite usefull. Also, if people want WP bonus, they'll just have to follow orders once the system works properly.
Regarding pure COD killstreaks. NO FREAKIN WAY ! lol |
Scarall Aoi
Dystopian Project
2
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Posted - 2012.08.02 08:33:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
please no. no mainstream-FPS-stuff. in DUST/EvE it is all about businuess. you want something? buy it...... and by the way... how do you call an orbital strike, without eve-player in the orbit? |
John Surratt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.02 08:37:00 -
[237] - Quote
12 + pages of rage from an obvious troll. . come on guys. . . |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:16:00 -
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Haha this is actually funny, let me clear things up. Before one goes on, CoD did not invent FPS, MMOFPS or multiplayer gaming in general, DOOM did. DOOM (yes it's meant to be caps keeping to true nature) had the first clean FPS (because Wolfenstein 3D is more a experiment) and it had the first multi-player, played so much universities banned it from clogging up their bandwidth. Also those going on about how CoD promotes skill, it doesn't, go play some OP Flashpoint or Arma. 'Quickscoping' in its own right is not in any way possible. This is why you can't do it in Dust (trust me I have the best in-game sniper the Ishukone) where sniping works correctly, where sniper shots have to be set up to get anyone. Kill-streaks in themselves don't work in Dust, no EVE player will give a crap about you getting many kills so they'll give you free stuff, they want your money in their hand, so good luck convincing them while they think of you as bunnies or carebears. A bonus for getting a lot of WP when those mechanics are sorted out could work, but its not necessary, if anything I just want old-school shout-out that I'm or someone else is burning your rear-end with a flame-thrower. Also before you ask yes I have played CoD I played from 1 up to BO and got VERY bored by end of it so I switched to BF which is more fun.
Sorry but your 'gun game' means nothing when rucdoc is facing you with his Sagaris |
Cless Vallein
Teknomen
37
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:33:00 -
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Wow, rants about wanting quick scoping. How stupid! Quickscoping is such a joke and a cheap exploit. The only reason people quick scope, besides the instant kill it gives, was because they couldn't run around with anything other than that big ass scope to look down, blocking off all peripheral view. Now look at bf3, hell you can run with the iron sites if you want and no real quickscoping that i've ever seen.
edit: Not to mention that things are awesome in DUST, the only way you're going to 1 shot anyone is to shoot them in the head, and they better be a scout suit or low assault/logi. This game actually has terrain suited for snipers. It's not all CQC like in COD. Use it like you're supposed to |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:35:00 -
[240] - Quote
Cless Vallein wrote:Wow, rants about wanting quick scoping. How stupid! Quickscoping is such a joke and a cheap exploit. The only reason people quick scope, besides the instant kill it gives, was because they couldn't run around with anything other than that big ass scope to look down, blocking off all peripheral view. Now look at bf3, hell you can run with the iron sites if you want and no real quickscoping that i've ever seen. That's mainly because with BF3 using iron sights makes you zoom in a lot faster, as per expected. The bigger the scope, the longer it takes. Hence why you don't get quickscopers with x12 sights slapped on their SV98 which really doesn't work at CQC. |
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Lieutenant Boxoffire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.02 17:10:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Haha this is actually funny, let me clear things up. Before one goes on, CoD did not invent FPS, MMOFPS or multiplayer gaming in general, DOOM did. DOOM (yes it's meant to be caps keeping to true nature) had the first clean FPS (because Wolfenstein 3D is more a experiment) and it had the first multi-player, played so much universities banned it from clogging up their bandwidth. Also those going on about how CoD promotes skill, it doesn't, go play some OP Flashpoint or Arma. 'Quickscoping' in its own right is not in any way possible. This is why you can't do it in Dust (trust me I have the best in-game sniper the Ishukone) where sniping works correctly, where sniper shots have to be set up to get anyone. Kill-streaks in themselves don't work in Dust, no EVE player will give a crap about you getting many kills so they'll give you free stuff, they want your money in their hand, so good luck convincing them while they think of you as bunnies or carebears. A bonus for getting a lot of WP when those mechanics are sorted out could work, but its not necessary, if anything I just want old-school shout-out that I'm or someone else is burning your rear-end with a flame-thrower. Also before you ask yes I have played CoD I played from 1 up to BO and got VERY bored by end of it so I switched to BF which is more fun. Sorry but your 'gun game' means nothing when rucdoc is facing you with his Sagaris Ah, good old DOOM and Quake days. Now those are good run and gun FPS games. CoD's nothing compared to them even if they do use the same base engines. I hope id makes DOOM 4 soon. I'm not completely sure, but I heard rumors that they are working on it.
Oh ya and I highly disagree about killstreaks, unless it's mild SP or ISK bonuses. |
Lieutenant Boxoffire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.02 17:17:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Cless Vallein wrote:Wow, rants about wanting quick scoping. How stupid! Quickscoping is such a joke and a cheap exploit. The only reason people quick scope, besides the instant kill it gives, was because they couldn't run around with anything other than that big ass scope to look down, blocking off all peripheral view. Now look at bf3, hell you can run with the iron sites if you want and no real quickscoping that i've ever seen. That's mainly because with BF3 using iron sights makes you zoom in a lot faster, as per expected. The bigger the scope, the longer it takes. Hence why you don't get quickscopers with x12 sights slapped on their SV98 which really doesn't work at CQC. Then again, that doesn't really mean you are quickscopping. Just because I shot someone with a shotgun in a QS manner (shooting right when the irons line up) doesn't make it a quickscope. Quickscoping IMO does take 'skill' but isn't hard at all, in fact the accepted way for QSing now adays is pure luck. If you can see the crosshairs just for a split second it's called hard scoping... Which doesn't even make sense :/ |
lorrenzo nub2
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
3
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:41:00 -
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kill streaks should give a extra points imo or maybe extra isk , or an energy rush that lets your stamina regenerate faster for a short time but no strikes or other crap like that ... |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:07:00 -
[244] - Quote
Dust should have no form of rewards for KDR or anything else during a match. Dust is about success in organised military campaigns. Dust is about getting paid to complete a contract. Dust is not about getting a quick fix of adrenaline because you just got 3 head shots. You want that? Don't play Dust. |
Mcfons knapperd
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:23:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:What innovation? name one thing that is unique in this game and ill name five that do the same and two that do it better Hooking up a Console MMO to a PC MMO for better or for worse, DUST style. Alternatively, MAG sized battles for a Console (I realize that DUST does not do this, but this is an example of innovation in today's world).
/standing ovation.
Dust == not an avarage shooter, its just FPS at its core, it should not ever try to be like another FPS.
Though on topic. Killstreak rewards are a horrible idea for the following reasons: - Snowball effect: Giving more free firepower to a player that is obliterating the enemy will give make a one man army, it does not support team gaming and will snowball as the enemy team will be quickly pushed into a corner.
- Its like magicly summoning stuff. Go into the army, stabbing 3 people will not give you a UAV drone, and stabbing 25 will not give you a nuke/MOAB. If it did we would be living Fallout style atm.
- It will ruin corp battles. Corp battles balance should be based on the funds and support given to it, not on how many killstreaks you can make.
- It supports run and gun solo play. May i remind you its a team based game........
- It is unfair since heavy's tend to have less player kills and more vehicle kills. They put themselfs in heavier dangers then assaults. So its easy to predict assault/scout vs vehicle battles if this is ever implemented.
Though I probably come up with even more reasons, I realy don't see the point. Horrible idea please lock this thread again and delete it.
And to OP, its either some good old fassion trolling or your stupid beyond believe, please for the love of god research what kind of game your playing.
PS If CCP needs to learn from any game (If any) it would be BF3 looking at the vehicle play and team based objectives. And then still it would only be a small portion of the mechanics.
Oh and again this is not an avarage shooter for 6 months untill the next installment comes out. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:30:00 -
[246] - Quote
My head....is so full of **** from this idea. Just, no. |
Mcfons knapperd
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:01:00 -
[247] - Quote
Lieutenant Boxoffire wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Haha this is actually funny, let me clear things up. Before one goes on, CoD did not invent FPS, MMOFPS or multiplayer gaming in general, DOOM did. DOOM (yes it's meant to be caps keeping to true nature) had the first clean FPS (because Wolfenstein 3D is more a experiment) and it had the first multi-player, played so much universities banned it from clogging up their bandwidth. Also those going on about how CoD promotes skill, it doesn't, go play some OP Flashpoint or Arma. 'Quickscoping' in its own right is not in any way possible. This is why you can't do it in Dust (trust me I have the best in-game sniper the Ishukone) where sniping works correctly, where sniper shots have to be set up to get anyone. Kill-streaks in themselves don't work in Dust, no EVE player will give a crap about you getting many kills so they'll give you free stuff, they want your money in their hand, so good luck convincing them while they think of you as bunnies or carebears. A bonus for getting a lot of WP when those mechanics are sorted out could work, but its not necessary, if anything I just want old-school shout-out that I'm or someone else is burning your rear-end with a flame-thrower. Also before you ask yes I have played CoD I played from 1 up to BO and got VERY bored by end of it so I switched to BF which is more fun. Sorry but your 'gun game' means nothing when rucdoc is facing you with his Sagaris Ah, good old DOOM and Quake days. Now those are good run and gun FPS games. CoD's nothing compared to them even if they do use the same base engines. I hope id makes DOOM 4 soon. I'm not completely sure, but I heard rumors that they are working on it. Oh ya and I highly disagree about killstreaks, unless it's mild SP or ISK bonuses.
Tbh I hope they leave DOOM alone. Don't get me wrong I loved DOOM and god UT 1999 is one of my all time fav's. But neither of those games got better in any shape or form with their modern day counterparts. They were great inovations of our time but they have no place in the future unless they go back to the original formula, and even then I realy doubt it will work seeing that most people have been spoiled by easy as **** modern games.
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Mcfons knapperd
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:09:00 -
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Dalton Smithe wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. COD is garbage. I played it and moved on. COD is not the reason Dust exists, Eve Online is the reason Dust exists. COD uses the same tired game-play from the get-go. Get-kills-for-killstreak-rewards-and-nuke-the-other-team-because-I-can. And half the matches I played people were boosting so there was no real definition of skill. I do not want Dust to turn into a garbage game. Just because a bunch of children(who really shouldn't be playing the game in the first place MA rating and all) doesn't mean it's a good game.
Yeah pretty much, but the real reason that COD and Halo and friends are doing so well is because they are casual FPS games. They support short solo player matches, making it easy for anyone to just join and play for 15min. Those with a busy life, or not that knowledgable about gaming will ofcourse be drawn to it.
Hardcore games like EVE, Counter Strike, World of warcraft 6 years ago, BF, ect. are real hardcore games and this is aiming to be one too.
I have seen so many self proclaimed hardcore players try to play counter strike 1.6 comming from a COD:MW2 'hardcore clan'. And the amount of 'hax' spam is just hilarious.
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:13:00 -
[249] - Quote
I was around for those days as well, and understand where the few of us come from. Played Unreal Tournament even tried to play enough to get into some of the championships, or even regionals. Too young, and not enough time. I played Quake, and enjoyed HEX for a short time. Some of the first person shooters I would consider to fit the genre though would be Wolfenstein, and Star Wars. My grandfather had a copy for his Atari, and while it was just lines, and triangles (mainly) I think that could be consider an arcade FPS game. Still a lot of fun. I miss Unreal Tournament, and DOOM. However I have a problem with their developers. Huge problems. Epic Games has gone from one of my most trusted developers to one of the worst, most stuck up, asanine fools in the industry. They blame everyone, but themselves, and have practically implied in recent years that they are nothing short of infallible. Talk about egotistical. Plus they have turned their backs on the platform that allowed them to become who they are today. They've stated they have no desire to publish for the PC anymore. Because, of qoute on qoute "piracy" for their lack of sales. Then you have ID software.... Where to begin. I think RAGE sums up how I feel about them, and how much they have declined. Another developer who feels they are infallible, and unable to produce games, or even average games at best. No, no! Blame "piracy" is their go to excuse.
... Yeah. I have great fond memories of the older games, and nostalgia can play in on them, but honestly while I have hopes for return titles I do not want them. They'd suck horribly, and be nothing short of a hollow shell of what they used to be. That is the truth, and it something happening all to often in this industry. Overly ego centric developers, and publishers feel they are incapable of doing wrong, or making a bad game. Of course not.. (<-- Sarcasm)
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ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:16:00 -
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Mcfons knapperd wrote:Dalton Smithe wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. COD is garbage. I played it and moved on. COD is not the reason Dust exists, Eve Online is the reason Dust exists. COD uses the same tired game-play from the get-go. Get-kills-for-killstreak-rewards-and-nuke-the-other-team-because-I-can. And half the matches I played people were boosting so there was no real definition of skill. I do not want Dust to turn into a garbage game. Just because a bunch of children(who really shouldn't be playing the game in the first place MA rating and all) doesn't mean it's a good game. Yeah pretty much, but the real reason that COD and Halo and friends are doing so well is because they are casual FPS games. They support short solo player matches, making it easy for anyone to just join and play for 15min. Those with a busy life, or not that knowledgable about gaming will ofcourse be drawn to it. Hardcore games like EVE, Counter Strike, World of warcraft 6 years ago, BF, ect. are real hardcore games and this is aiming to be one too. I have seen so many self proclaimed hardcore players try to play counter strike 1.6 comming from a COD:MW2 'hardcore clan'. And the amount of 'hax' spam is just hilarious.
HALO causal lol |
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:27:00 -
[251] - Quote
I'm not sure how I feel about agreeing with, ReGnUm, but I have to sort of agree. I do not feel one can call Halo casual. If that is the case you might as well start listing Counter Strike as casual. For the record -- CS1.6 and CS:S are not casual. Overly reveled, and cherished in a drunken stooper of nostalgia? Sure. Crazed fanbase? Yup. Casual? Nope.
I'll hand it to Bungie though. When they wrote the codes for Halo they really put they're all into it. They barely touched the underlying code work for Halo since the original. The guts and behind the curtain coding is solid. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:44:00 -
[252] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:Mcfons knapperd wrote:Dalton Smithe wrote:Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around. COD is garbage. I played it and moved on. COD is not the reason Dust exists, Eve Online is the reason Dust exists. COD uses the same tired game-play from the get-go. Get-kills-for-killstreak-rewards-and-nuke-the-other-team-because-I-can. And half the matches I played people were boosting so there was no real definition of skill. I do not want Dust to turn into a garbage game. Just because a bunch of children(who really shouldn't be playing the game in the first place MA rating and all) doesn't mean it's a good game. Yeah pretty much, but the real reason that COD and Halo and friends are doing so well is because they are casual FPS games. They support short solo player matches, making it easy for anyone to just join and play for 15min. Those with a busy life, or not that knowledgable about gaming will ofcourse be drawn to it. Hardcore games like EVE, Counter Strike, World of warcraft 6 years ago, BF, ect. are real hardcore games and this is aiming to be one too. I have seen so many self proclaimed hardcore players try to play counter strike 1.6 comming from a COD:MW2 'hardcore clan'. And the amount of 'hax' spam is just hilarious. HALO causal lol
yes casual compared with the games he's hopefully played. he's 16 years young and had the pleasure of playing some of the best games made to date. before halo. im 16 too or thereabouts. lol.
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Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:47:00 -
[253] - Quote
I cant believe we are still talkin g about this, talk about beating a dead horse. Kill steaks are for COD end of topic. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:51:00 -
[254] - Quote
now get rid of killcount, i know it'll never happen because players demand it, but it's only because they are conditioned to think that way. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:54:00 -
[255] - Quote
Draco Dustflier wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:In a match:
5 Kill streak (infantry) = AI mocks you (It took you long enough to figure out which way to point that thing).
15 Kill streak (vehicle) = AI mocks you (Congratulations, you now officially know how to ride around in a tritanium can.)
15 Kill streak (infantry) = AI asks (Running low on ammo yet?) and highlights the closest friendly nano hive/supply depot.
25 Kill streak (no hacks in a skirmish game mode, objectives have been controlled by enemy for over 50% of game duration) = AI mocks you (You do know that you're supposed to help capture objectives, right?)
25 Kill streak = AI teases you (Aren't we the little avatar of death.)
Out of match: Keep track of highest kill streak on character sheet.
Add in corresponding medals/awards that have no gameplay value, but can be displayed to other players. This could work like advertisements for the Gladiator thing
And if you haven't played EVE before you don't realize what you're missing.
The single most memorable part of death in the game isn't losing your ship, your implants, or getting bumped back to the facility that holds your insurance policy. It's the AI's mocking laughter.
I'd love to see that same mockery added for achievements! Something to help push you a little further or to make you laugh at yourself. |
Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:59:00 -
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Hobos-N-Guns wrote:How about letting the game develope on its own with no outside influence from other fps games. We don't need another COD since one already exists.
exactly. you can all shove those kill streaks where the sun dont shine. im not playing dust because its like call of duty. if you want kill streaks... go play a game that has kill streaks.
i know you kill streak beggers wont be playing the new counter strike thats for damn sure. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:01:00 -
[257] - Quote
I want oldschool killstreaks showing up in the kill feed |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:06:00 -
[258] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xJ-jy8t54aI&NR=1
SO HALO is casual????
better play any ranked playlist on H3 at 50 and say its casual play any arena match on onyx and say HR is causal
The only reason you say HALO causal is because you have the skill set of causal player.
BTW I have a CS source North american championship on my GAMING BELT, so dont talk to me like I know nothing about hardcore shooters |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:14:00 -
[259] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xJ-jy8t54aI&NR=1
SO HALO is casual????
better play any ranked playlist on H3 at 50 and say its casual play any arena match on onyx and say HR is causal
The only reason you say HALO causal is because you have the skill set of causal player.
BTW I have a CS source North american championship on my GAMING BELT, so dont talk to me like I know nothing about hardcore shooters
You know I was agreeing with you, and I still do. However when you start pulling the whole wannabe pro, or gamer cred in the form of some egotistical nonesense such as gaming awards I have to laugh at you. Sure you got an award. Congratulations. Would you like a star sticker to go with it? That is how I feel towards the whole situation. If you are really into the whole situation go for it. Pulling it out like it's some form of elitism or a way to valldate your life is only harming you though.
Cool it with the theatrics alright? Just sayin'. Calm down.
I still agree that Halo is not casual though.
(Not trying to be a jerk, or vex ya'. Just pointing out the obvious here.) |
Yun Vulgaris
8
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:37:00 -
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If you don't like an idea, just ignore it, people. Don't let it float to the top of the forums.
Ironic bump. |
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:38:00 -
[261] - Quote
Yun Vulgaris wrote:If you don't like an idea, just ignore it, people. Don't let it float to the top of the forums.
Ironic bump.
agreed, just let the thread die.
i only said that since it was on top anyway. |
Carilito
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:47:00 -
[262] - Quote
Agreed, the talk about kill streaks makes this look sane...Lurchasaurus wrote:Yun Vulgaris wrote:If you don't like an idea, just ignore it, people. Don't let it float to the top of the forums.
Ironic bump. agreed, just let the thread die. i only said that since it was on top anyway.
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:51:00 -
[263] - Quote
ReGnUm DEl wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xJ-jy8t54aI&NR=1
SO HALO is casual????
better play any ranked playlist on H3 at 50 and say its casual play any arena match on onyx and say HR is causal
The only reason you say HALO causal is because you have the skill set of causal player.
BTW I have a CS source North american championship on my GAMING BELT, so dont talk to me like I know nothing about hardcore shooters
so casual its was never worth playing. play the real deal or gtfo
not a cheap rip off. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.04 20:03:00 -
[264] - Quote
Cpl Quartz wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xJ-jy8t54aI&NR=1
SO HALO is casual????
better play any ranked playlist on H3 at 50 and say its casual play any arena match on onyx and say HR is causal
The only reason you say HALO causal is because you have the skill set of causal player.
BTW I have a CS source North american championship on my GAMING BELT, so dont talk to me like I know nothing about hardcore shooters so casual its was never worth playing. play the real deal or gtfo not a cheap rip off. lolz |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:01:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xJ-jy8t54aI&NR=1
SO HALO is casual????
better play any ranked playlist on H3 at 50 and say its casual play any arena match on onyx and say HR is causal
The only reason you say HALO causal is because you have the skill set of causal player.
BTW I have a CS source North american championship on my GAMING BELT, so dont talk to me like I know nothing about hardcore shooters so casual its was never worth playing. play the real deal or gtfo not a cheap rip off. lolz What's Halo? |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:09:00 -
[266] - Quote
simple yes, the more gameplay added. The better for us. |
ReptileHand
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.08.05 21:51:00 -
[267] - Quote
No, no killstreaks. Don't want it, the game isn't designed for mass murdering like COD is. |
Nate Silverley
Rebelles A Quebec
139
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Posted - 2012.08.05 22:49:00 -
[268] - Quote
Why won't this thread die, already! This thing is going nowhere. The only positive side-effect is that it keeps all the CoD fans concentrated where they can't harm common sense. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.08.05 22:55:00 -
[269] - Quote
Nate Silverley wrote:Why won't this thread die, already! This thing is going nowhere. The only positive side-effect is that it keeps all the CoD fans concentrated where they can't harm common sense. I've seen worse examples of zombie threads on eve's forums.
At this point I don't think anyone's actually talking any more about the kill streak stuff which is kind of disappointing. I don't think more than 1 or 2 people even read my input. |
Hobos-N-Guns
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:56:00 -
[270] - Quote
GM, Please lock thread
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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:01:00 -
[271] - Quote
old school killstreaks that say "X" player is murdering the other team please. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:07:00 -
[272] - Quote
Yun Vulgaris wrote:If you don't like an idea, just ignore it, people. Don't let it float to the top of the forums.
Ironic bump.
This is a forum, if you don't like an idea, say so. If you don't the opster of the idea might get the bad idea that their idea is universally liked. That would be BADGäó |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:09:00 -
[273] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:old school killstreaks that say "X" player is murdering the other team please.
10 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is killing you" 25 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is slaughtering you" 50 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is terminating you" 100 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is ... CHUCK NORRIS!" |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:34:00 -
[274] - Quote
Dewie Cheecham wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:old school killstreaks that say "X" player is murdering the other team please. 10 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is killing you" 25 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is slaughtering you" 50 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is terminating you" 100 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is ... CHUCK NORRIS!"
that's all we really need anything else is for kids. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:46:00 -
[275] - Quote
i also think any kind of killstreak implementation, if any, must be cosmetic only. I think it should also only be in Ambush or the gladiator arena if it applies. In Skirmish tho, it simply isnt something that needs to be put up on a pedestal like that....
you dont hear a , "LEET HAXOR" after hacking 10 objectives in one life, do you? its just not the thing mercs should be striving for over PTFO... |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:23:00 -
[276] - Quote
Dewie Cheecham wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:old school killstreaks that say "X" player is murdering the other team please. 10 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is killing you" 25 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is slaughtering you" 50 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is terminating you" 100 killstreak: All enemy players get the message "[player] is ... CHUCK NORRIS!"
I would consider retirement if I ever got to "Chuck Norris" the other team. |
Simon Havoc
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
26
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:56:00 -
[277] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
Sorry but if I am paying for mercs to take a planet while I sit vulnerable in space, I am not going to wait for someone to obtain killstreaks that always invite hacker calling so I can MAYBE use something in EVE.
Titans dont have to kill 100 ships before they can use their doomsday.
As the 2nd person posted, Go back to COD if you want kill streaks to "give" you stuff. The only killstreaks I will support are bonuses awarded by the contracting party for ISK. Otherwise it has no place in dust. Completely the wrong mentality for this game.
Dont take this as calling you an idiot or something, but think of it from my standpoint. Its like mashing the movie Aliens with Adam West Batman with Kapow! and Zzap! everytime someone gets a few kills.
Dust is being made in EVE Universe. It for all intents and purposes is not up to interpretation. They set the standard as EVE. |
Alixenus
Omega protection service
36
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Posted - 2012.11.04 15:40:00 -
[278] - Quote
I'm sorry but this game is meant to be realistic. Actual soldiers do not recieve support based on their combat effectiveness. If anything they're more likely to call in help when they're in dire straights. In short, I don't wnat killstreaks in this game.
PS. Everyone, stop bringing up Cod and BF. Everytime you turn a thread into a flame war it slows the development of the game as the developers check these 'popular' threads only to find that they contain nothing relevant to the game. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.11.04 15:43:00 -
[279] - Quote
Necro much? |
Thurak Mirunas
BetaMax.
9
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Posted - 2012.11.04 15:53:00 -
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No this is the EVE universe, if your playing EVE and kill 10 people you dont suddenly get a gjallarhorn superweapon
Edit: i wouldnt mind if after killing 3 people there was an unreal tournament sexy voice saying multi kill - or maybe the one for 8 kills... hehe |
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pew pew youredead
What The French
98
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Posted - 2012.11.04 15:53:00 -
[281] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two GTFO I am entitled to my opinion please do not swear at me GTFOBTCOD |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:11:00 -
[282] - Quote
To be honest, ccp has adopted a killstreak system for orbital strikes. However, it isn't killstreaks but you have to build warpoints to get it. Just like, you have to earn the moab in cod. I hate cod, by the way.
Forcing us to pay for the orbital in dust should be considered. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:18:00 -
[283] - Quote
Definitely NO Kill streaks We do not want a COD clone |
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:33:00 -
[284] - Quote
CLASSIC THREAD
Bring it back
BTW +1 FOR KILL STREAKS |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:34:00 -
[285] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
G T F O NOW! |
Novas Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:57:00 -
[286] - Quote
Definitely NO to kill streaks. Dust. to me, is all about the realities of war, i.e. having the skills to call in orbital strikes or drive certain vehicles or use that weapon you've always wanted. You don't see guys in Afghan calling in Warthogs or artillery when they've downed a certain number of Taliban do you? of course not. Skills like Orbital strikes are used for denying an area, or an objective, to the enemy, not about personal glory.
This games all about Team work, not about some guy with an awesome ping owning every MF on the battlefield and then calling in some ridiculous kill streak to carry on owning every other MF. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:57:00 -
[287] - Quote
oh god damit who necro'd this, its going to take us weeks to kill it again -_- |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.11.04 18:08:00 -
[288] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:oh god damit who necro'd this, its going to take us weeks to kill it again -_- Starts with R, ends with M... |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.11.04 18:15:00 -
[289] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
How about WP streaks? Owait, we already have those to get OBs? Enough said. |
Deejae
Universal Allies Inc.
23
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Posted - 2012.11.04 19:37:00 -
[290] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
Are you kidding me this is not call of duty. If you want kill streaks go play camp of dodo... |
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Phantom Eren
Doomheim
33
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Posted - 2012.11.04 19:50:00 -
[291] - Quote
okay, okay, okay, COD equivalency issues aside. WHY ON EARTH WOULD ANYONE WANT THIS?
>skill up in a tank because it is what you are good at >can't ever use it because you can't get a ten kill streak
>likes to play racing games >tries dust 514 >skills in LAV driving >is awesome at it >can't get a 5 kill streak >never drives anything
CCP has created a beautiful thing in that people who aren't FPS players are as valuable if not more valuable than FPS players there really is a place for everyone whether it's the flight sim guy who pilots dropships like a god, the racing game Guru who drives his LAV like it's an extension of his body, or that dude who loves world of tanks and plays dust on the side.
and soon those of us who love the mechworrier games will have MTACS of their very own.
all skills sets are not equal. forcing everyone into the same role until they can use their speciality is a dumb move. the way it's currently setup if a person doesn't like being infantry they don't ever have to be (they better be a darn good pilot though). that in itself is sorta cool. why would you want to take that away?
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Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:49:00 -
[292] - Quote
Maybe instead of tangible rewards you could unlock some PSN trophies
They could say this:
Streaks 5 kills = "You are an amateur"
10 kills = "Bounty Hunter"
25 kills with no death = "You are overpowered and people will start saying that whatever weapon or vehicle you are using is OP on the forums"
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Corvus Ravensong
Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency
179
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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:56:00 -
[293] - Quote
Max Tyrrell wrote:Maybe instead of tangible rewards you could unlock some PSN trophies
They could say this:
Streaks 5 kills = "You are an amateur"
10 kills = "Bounty Hunter"
25 kills with no death = "You are overpowered and people will start saying that whatever weapon or vehicle you are using is OP on the forums"
ROFL - now that's a proper kill streak reward set. Give the little boys a little e-peen boost so they can feel "leet" at something. |
Rugudorull Apophicyria
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
11
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Posted - 2012.11.04 21:21:00 -
[294] - Quote
Hell no to killstreak rewards but maybe oldschool killstreak announcements to let you know how you are doing. A kill streak reward system would just cater to the slayers but what about us logibros who focus on medding/repping? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.11.04 21:22:00 -
[295] - Quote
DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two
Man wtf. Your proposal makes no sense what so ever. You come here and propose the core game mechanics to be changed just so that you can play more COD - why? Go play COD when you want kill streaks and random unexplained **** just materiazling out of thin air. How in the world would you turn 10 kills into a tank without paying for one? Kill streaks are fine as a stat. For example something that gets reported in the table at the end of a game and on leaderboards and that you can brag about. That's it. |
Second Cerberus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.11.04 21:44:00 -
[296] - Quote
[quote=GM Unicorn]Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. [/quote
At first I was going to ignore this troll thread, however if CCP is looking for legitimate feedback, my vote is no killstreaks. At this time I am on the fence on whether to pickup B.O.2. I know it will be fun to play and most of my friends will play it at some point, but truthfully, it's starting to feel very stale. Why would DUST try to innovate by copying a 5-10 year old game mechanic? Is the future of all FPS going to be based on a game gimmick that has been rehashed a dozen times? Maybe DUST won't get it right, but I'd rather take the chance they do over a guaranteed COD clone.
Also, for perspective I am decent at COD (not awesome) and very rarely got top level killstreaks. In DUST, a player can grind in any role they choose and with investment of SP call in a tank or dropship. Players should appreciate that high-level rewards can be earned in different ways in DUST, outside of killing x-number of enemies in row. |
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