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Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:45:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. It seems like our opinions were very clearly expressed |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:47:00 -
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Ferocitan wrote:-1 is my vote. Killstreaks is for making a shooter only game a bit more rewarding to play. This isn't a shooter only.
Killstreak rewards are for games with free items. In DUST we have to work our asses off to get the cool stuff, meaning we'll appreciate it more, instead of just getting a plane or tank for free ... |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:00:00 -
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All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well.
I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money?
My vote is no on this idea. |
Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:38:00 -
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Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea.
now this guy i like ;)
if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? |
killing reaper
5
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:48:00 -
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please no killstreak rewards we play for skillpoints to earn perks isnt that enough??? i really loved cod but really this is not the game for such a thing and it wont discourage camping |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:56:00 -
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killstreaks ? hell no. |
ONS TheReaper545
42
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:19:00 -
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Can this thread just die.
It's been stated more then enough people don't want kill streak's and their is little to no constructive criticism besides the standard "no kill streaks". |
jus nukem
19
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:25:00 -
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Killstreaks= camping! plain n simple. KEEP THAT CRAP OUT OF THE GAME |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:31:00 -
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Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed?
How is quick scoping easy???
One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:44:00 -
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i want my old school "this player is kicking your ass killstreaks" |
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Sw3RvE
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:55:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? How is quick scoping easy??? One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game
sniping is a skill. quick scoping is not. you obviously know nothing if you think quick scoping is a skill and is how sniping should work. theres a reason the missiles dont go exactly where you aim when you're moving. that concept works when sniping while moving or when sniping a moving target. thats why quickscoping is the most unrealistic and annoying thing in CoD. i bet you suck at sniping on BF3 if you love quick scoping. you know the only reason quick scoping is possible? because they did not make the game correctly if it is possible to do.
sniping is a rewarding skill, try it sometime. oh wait its too hard for you, thats why you want quick scoping.
love the name of the person that made this also... Dustguy... more like CoDguy. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:03:00 -
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Sw3RvE wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:Sw3RvE wrote:Zerlathon wrote:All killstreak bonuses do is promote camping and give good players more of an advantage over Players that are not as good as them. It's not as if they needed the additional boost if they were doing so well. I also believe that the concept of KSBs go completely against what CCP are trying to achieve with Dust. Perhaps as a compromise, have a nominal SP or ISK "Bonus", but with regards to items that can cost a Player large sums of money? My vote is no on this idea. now this guy i like ;) if you want every game to be like CoD sure... lets have kill streaks, death streaks, r/c REs, quick scoping, anything that very unskilled people use to take advantage of the skilled players that i missed? How is quick scoping easy??? One of the hardest/ most rewarding skills in any game sniping is a skill. quick scoping is not. you obviously know nothing if you think quick scoping is a skill and is how sniping should work. theres a reason the missiles dont go exactly where you aim when you're moving. that concept works when sniping while moving or when sniping a moving target. thats why quickscoping is the most unrealistic and annoying thing in CoD. i bet you suck at sniping on BF3 if you love quick scoping. you know the only reason quick scoping is possible? because they did not make the game correctly if it is possible to do. sniping is a rewarding skill, try it sometime. oh wait its too hard for you, thats why you want quick scoping. love the name of the person that made this also... Dustguy... more like CoDguy.
LOL I quick scoped MAG HALO BF3 and COD |
Hobos-N-Guns
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:18:00 -
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How about letting the game develope on its own with no outside influence from other fps games. We don't need another COD since one already exists.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:18:00 -
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12 pages of pointless discussion |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:15:00 -
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ok so ya I gave up around page 6 so...... I think the OP is wrong about the way to implement a kill streak WP bonus like +20 for 5 kills streak +40 for a 10..... and something like that and someone else had the idea to have a notice in the kill feed that XXXXXX is on a kill streak those I wouldn't mind. but no airstrikes for 5 kills or something ridiculous like that... |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
16
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:21:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:Rorek IronBIood wrote:Erahk Manaan wrote:I thought that was what ISK was for. In a match where you kill a lot without dying you get paid more then the next match you can buy Jeeps, Tanks, Drop ships, and better gear.
So basically this is already implemented, just in a more intelligent way. how about you guys just stroke your epeens some more COD is one of the best selling games to this date maybe CCP can learn a thing or two The reason COD is the best selling fps is because any moron can play it. It takes no skill to 'run and gun' in that game. ha you have no idea what skill is, I bet if you were put in any game from cod to halo you'd get wrecked by people like me it takes a hell of a lot more skill to coordinate a strategy that can overcome overpowered enemies. if the lone wolves from CoD went up against a team of players who have any type of plan, you can expect the CoD kiddies to freak out, whine about how overpowered whatever the other team was using is, and then go running back to the only game simple enough for them to understand. i like this post made me smile so true |
xXKillerBXx
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.02 01:00:00 -
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Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO |
Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:47:00 -
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MAYBE we could make the War Points accumulated from killing, hacking, healing, etc. and make a temporary currency that lasts until the end of the match to use to buy vehicles, if you were attempting to find a way to limit vehicles. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:51:00 -
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xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO
why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players? |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:54:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players?
Because they force they're game style into other games |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:55:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players?
Same reason why all EVE players are EVEtards or all MAG players are MAGtards. Because a few people on the forums are trollhards. |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
45
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:04:00 -
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Abner Kalen wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:If you want KS like cod, the mechanics to be like cod, and for it to look like cod
Maybe you should play cod COD is the reason Dust exists. COD is what everyone will compare to Dust. COD is a success because it's a damn good game and has extremely solid FPS gameplay mechanics. The goal is to attract COD players to Dust, not the other way around.
COD is garbage. I played it and moved on. COD is not the reason Dust exists, Eve Online is the reason Dust exists. COD uses the same tired game-play from the get-go. Get-kills-for-killstreak-rewards-and-nuke-the-other-team-because-I-can. And half the matches I played people were boosting so there was no real definition of skill. I do not want Dust to turn into a garbage game. Just because a bunch of children(who really shouldn't be playing the game in the first place MA rating and all) doesn't mean it's a good game. |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
45
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:05:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:xXKillerBXx wrote:Codfags need to seriously gtfo, just GTFO why do they have to be "fags" why can't they just be enthusiasts or players? Same reason why all EVE players are EVEtards or all MAG players are MAGtards. Because a few people on the forums are trollhards.
I thought you were going to call them Trolltards....lol |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
78
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:12:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me Wow what a Good idea let just add more unrealistic immersion breaking crap i mean dont real solders get a free jeep for every 5 kills. i also want to be able to power up to super saiyan, take to the air and fight dropships hand to hand.
Seems fair to me
just because you think its a good idea it dont make it one. what about everyone else who dont want it, This is part of eve not some some kiddy game, that gives you little bonus. so its fair for them to say go play COD if you want COD. Trying to change this game in to COD is stupid. these game have almost nothing in common why would even try.
BOO this man!!! |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.08.02 07:49:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think it's worth bringing up an important point in a GM post as to what happened earlier in the thread: GM Unicorn wrote:Ok guys, I lock the thread so we can do a proper cleanup of this mess. The doppleganger has been spotted so his/her fate is in the capable and wise hands of the Elders of New Eden. I reopen the thread tomorrow and I will keep a close eye on it. The topic has a valid point so I would like to see what are your opinions about it. OP was a fake version of a legit poster on the forums, AND IS ALREAY BANNED FOR IT. But the thread was kept open because THERE'S A VALID POINT. Anyone care to add to my few attempts at looking at the idea of "streaks" constructively? Just saying "no, go back to CoD" isn't giving any real feedback. it's just saying you're refusing to even TRY and see any potential for a good idea as soon as "killstreak" is mentioned. Why does it have to be only KILL streaks though? Look back, and you'll see a few posts from me suggesting SP or WP bonuses when you get a large number of WAR POINTS without dying. Nobody's commenting on those attempts at constructive posting though, people are just seeing "killstreak" then seeing red. Calm down, pay attention, and TRY to think of GOOD ideas, instead of ignoring the potential behind the idea because OP was an idiot.
Even your suggestion still doesnt feel right for me. Final rewards after a battle are already based on how much WP\kills you made throughout the game. Wich means that people who tends to successfully do streaks of any kind will be the same ones that already get the bigger share from a battle.
I already feel like the difference in SP earned is way too important when you finish say 3rd of your team compared to being first in terms of kills. It feels like no matter how much objectives you completed, kills and your final ranking are still playing a huge role in your SP attribution. (less noticeable for ISK)
So kill\objective\support\heal Streaks. No need imo. Would be more usefull to tweak how SP\ISK is distributed than to add something new and not quite usefull. Also, if people want WP bonus, they'll just have to follow orders once the system works properly.
Regarding pure COD killstreaks. NO FREAKIN WAY ! lol |
Scarall Aoi
Dystopian Project
2
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Posted - 2012.08.02 08:33:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER290720112234 wrote:I Think players who get kills in a row, without dying, should be able to call in killstreaks
1. 5kills- jeep 2. 10kills- tank 3. 25kills- orbital strike
Seems fair to me
please no. no mainstream-FPS-stuff. in DUST/EvE it is all about businuess. you want something? buy it...... and by the way... how do you call an orbital strike, without eve-player in the orbit? |
John Surratt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.02 08:37:00 -
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12 + pages of rage from an obvious troll. . come on guys. . . |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:16:00 -
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Haha this is actually funny, let me clear things up. Before one goes on, CoD did not invent FPS, MMOFPS or multiplayer gaming in general, DOOM did. DOOM (yes it's meant to be caps keeping to true nature) had the first clean FPS (because Wolfenstein 3D is more a experiment) and it had the first multi-player, played so much universities banned it from clogging up their bandwidth. Also those going on about how CoD promotes skill, it doesn't, go play some OP Flashpoint or Arma. 'Quickscoping' in its own right is not in any way possible. This is why you can't do it in Dust (trust me I have the best in-game sniper the Ishukone) where sniping works correctly, where sniper shots have to be set up to get anyone. Kill-streaks in themselves don't work in Dust, no EVE player will give a crap about you getting many kills so they'll give you free stuff, they want your money in their hand, so good luck convincing them while they think of you as bunnies or carebears. A bonus for getting a lot of WP when those mechanics are sorted out could work, but its not necessary, if anything I just want old-school shout-out that I'm or someone else is burning your rear-end with a flame-thrower. Also before you ask yes I have played CoD I played from 1 up to BO and got VERY bored by end of it so I switched to BF which is more fun.
Sorry but your 'gun game' means nothing when rucdoc is facing you with his Sagaris |
Cless Vallein
Teknomen
37
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:33:00 -
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Wow, rants about wanting quick scoping. How stupid! Quickscoping is such a joke and a cheap exploit. The only reason people quick scope, besides the instant kill it gives, was because they couldn't run around with anything other than that big ass scope to look down, blocking off all peripheral view. Now look at bf3, hell you can run with the iron sites if you want and no real quickscoping that i've ever seen.
edit: Not to mention that things are awesome in DUST, the only way you're going to 1 shot anyone is to shoot them in the head, and they better be a scout suit or low assault/logi. This game actually has terrain suited for snipers. It's not all CQC like in COD. Use it like you're supposed to |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.08.02 10:35:00 -
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Cless Vallein wrote:Wow, rants about wanting quick scoping. How stupid! Quickscoping is such a joke and a cheap exploit. The only reason people quick scope, besides the instant kill it gives, was because they couldn't run around with anything other than that big ass scope to look down, blocking off all peripheral view. Now look at bf3, hell you can run with the iron sites if you want and no real quickscoping that i've ever seen. That's mainly because with BF3 using iron sights makes you zoom in a lot faster, as per expected. The bigger the scope, the longer it takes. Hence why you don't get quickscopers with x12 sights slapped on their SV98 which really doesn't work at CQC. |
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