in eve the number 1 rule is dont fly what you cant afford to loose

not answering the question dude i dont care about eve, in a ps3 FPS game if you work hard to unlock the best stuff you expect to be able to use the best stuff without needing to go cap in hand to an eve player. simple.

Nope, in Dust you're not supposed to be running around in Proto gear only in public matches.

so you are saying to use the best gear you have to do the private corp crap with eve players? if you work hard for unlocks you should be able to use those unlocks without impediment, no other ps3 game makes it so you cant use the things you unlock.

Dont worry too much about prices and rewards at the moment. That is all bound to change specially when the market joins the whole Universe.

ISK rewards will depend on many factors. However if you do not want to work for an EVE player you don't have to. You can sell your services to Dust Corps as well, for whatever amount you think it is right, if they agree then you should be able to afford your equipment.

Remember after all you are a Mercenary. Your equipment depends on the contracts you take, your contracts depend on demand for your services.

Also if you have deep pockets you can buy AUR items :)

Also if you have deep pockets you can buy AUR items :)

not answering the question dude i dont care about eve, in a ps3 FPS game if you work hard to unlock the best stuff you expect to be able to use the best stuff without needing to go cap in hand to an eve player. simple.

And with that mentality how far do you expect you'll get when this game is released.

The whole point of the economy of this game is that you essentially have to manage you personal funds. The great thing about this, is that it (in essence) deals a big blow to the "spare time = winning" trend that follows most games with any hint of an MMO.

This makes the game so much more versatile, and means that you will have a wide variety of loadouts running around.

"l33t" loadouts should be damn expensive, perhaps you should take better care of it rather than just running into scenarios that you have little-no chance of being successful.

The financial aspect of the game is one of the things that I am really looking forward to, and I'll be really disappointed if costs are reduced simply because you (and others with the same approach) cannot grasp the basic concept of managing your money.

not answering the question dude i dont care about eve, in a ps3 FPS game if you work hard to unlock the best stuff you expect to be able to use the best stuff without needing to go cap in hand to an eve player. simple.

Might I ask what in the actual **** do you wear that amounts to 300k isk per death? Are you including a proto suit inside a Sagaris being crushed by a Prometheus while being OB'd by yourself???

Game is about being hired by EvE corps so you lost and if you think that grinding SP and spamming spawns is an indication of skill you're wrong.

so you are saying to use the best gear you have to do the private corp crap with eve players? if you work hard for unlocks you should be able to use those unlocks without impediment, no other ps3 game makes it so you cant use the things you unlock.

haaa..... love the retards on this forum who just assume. i come top of the board every single game & have done for weeks no spamming/ spawn camping or other bs. the bitter words of a sub standard gamer classic. tell you what when the squad system comes in i'll school you properly.

Kind of ironic really...

Aren't you assuming/ demanding that the game should reward you for the length of time that you have been playing?

I dont know what your problem is. I die about 3-4 times a game on a bad day. Also its called saving up your money. I could die multiple times, I may lose a profit but I dont have to worry since I have over 3 mil ISK :).

I dont know what your problem is. I die about 3-4 times a game on a bad day. Also its called saving up your money. I could die multiple times, I may lose a profit but I dont have to worry since I have over 3 mil ISK :).

Also if you did that good every game then I doubt you would even need to worry about ISK.

3 million isk will buy about 40 fits of my suit dude it dont go far, i bought 100 fittings outright & nearly bankrupted myself & now if i die 1 time or more in a game i'm losing money.

3 million isk will buy about 40 fits of my suit dude it dont go far, i bought 100 fittings outright & nearly bankrupted myself & now if i die 1 time or more in a game i'm losing money.

If you need fittings that expensive, and you're still dying that much.


You're doing it wrong.

If you need fittings that expensive, and you're still dying that much.


You're doing it wrong.

question has been answered by a dev already i wanted to make sure i would get at least the cost of my used gear back without the need for eve players money. been answered let it go..

Dont worry too much about prices and rewards at the moment. That is all bound to change specially when the market joins the whole Universe.

ISK rewards will depend on many factors. However if you do not want to work for an EVE player you don't have to. You can sell your services to Dust Corps as well, for whatever amount you think it is right, if they agree then you should be able to afford your equipment.

Remember after all you are a Mercenary. Your equipment depends on the contracts you take, your contracts depend on demand for your services.

Also if you have deep pockets you can buy AUR items :)

dying 1 time or more..... can you retards actually read or do you just type first thing that comes into your heads without thinking?

question has been answered by a dev already i wanted to make sure i would get at least the cost of my used gear back without the need for eve players money. been answered let it go..

this morning i went 22-1 & hacked multiple objectives but only earned 291k isk my suit costs slightly more than that when its full of modules & equipment how is this in any way fair isk distribution?.

3 million isk will buy about 40 fits of my suit dude it dont go far, i bought 100 fittings outright & nearly bankrupted myself & now if i die 1 time or more in a game i'm losing money.

Also what your essentially whining about is losing a rifter. Play eve for a bit and you will be like OMG this **** is cheap!!

so i have the best part of 13million skill points & the best gear for everything in my assault class build. unfortunately now all my hard work and planning was for nothing as the money earned from every game i play does not cover the cost of my fitting of my first life. is this how ccp plan to force ps3 players to work for eve players? i dont want to work for eve players EVER! does any body know how the cash system will work on release for those of us who cant be bothered with the eve crap? surely as the isk says its contribution based at the very least you should get the value of your fitting back for each life you spend in battles. this morning i went 22-1 & hacked multiple objectives but only earned 291k isk my suit costs slightly more than that when its full of modules & equipment how is this in any way fair isk distribution? i'm having a bit of a rant here so apologies for that but i think its a fair point, will ps3 players be forced to play for eve guys in order to use the equipment unlocks that WE have earned because if thats the case i officially declare myself out right now.

Your full of ****

291k doesnt cover 1 death then i call BS, proto assualt fit is not tht expensive, im 70k with majority at proto level except nades/nanohive and SMG

haaa..... love the retards on this forum who just assume. i come top of the board every single game & have done for weeks no spamming/ spawn camping or other bs. the bitter words of a sub standard gamer classic. tell you what when the squad system comes in i'll school you properly.

LOL becasue he needs other ppl to help him school lol

another tard joy.... when he can get onto my team i can show him how i play. how stupid are you people.

Calls other ppl stupid

Has to explain why his suit costs more than 291k

He cant explain because hes full of **** and too stupid to admit he made a mistake

Pot, kettle, black

i'm very interessted in your equipment, please write it down as soon as the servers coming back.

i'm waiting for server to come back up to post price list. & i love the way you dont deny your full of **** any one who has max level gear knows the cost. point stands 1 or more deaths means no prophit on my suit & equipment

That's what I want to know. I think the OP is over-exaggerating his losses for one suit. I lose 300k ISK when my Marauder Tank blows up, and I doubt very much one full proto outfit of any type costs as much as a Marauder.

My Proto Logistics Outfit has the potential to be around 100k when the suit is maxed out.

Logistics vk.0 = 58000
Proto Assault Rifle = 12000
4 Complex High Powered Modules = 6500
4 Complex Low Powered Modules = 5000
Proto Drop Uplink = 11000
Proto NanoHives = 10000
Proto Repair Tool = 10000
Proto Nanoinjector = 10000
Grenades = 500

That's a little over 120k, and I very much doubt that a Full Proto Assault Dropsuit can come close to what a Full Proto Logistics costs.

im not breaching the NDA willingly but i'll post the cost overall

That's what I want to know. I think the OP is over-exaggerating his losses for one suit. I lose 300k ISK when my Marauder Tank blows up, and I doubt very much one full proto outfit of any type costs as much as a Marauder.

My Proto Logistics Outfit has the potential to be around 100k when the suit is maxed out.

Logistics vk.0 = 58000
Proto Assault Rifle = 12000
4 Complex High Powered Modules = 6500
4 Complex Low Powered Modules = 5000
Proto Drop Uplink = 11000
Proto NanoHives = 10000
Proto Repair Tool = 10000
Proto Nanoinjector = 10000
Grenades = 500

That's a little over 120k, and I very much doubt that a Full Proto Assault Dropsuit can come close to what a Full Proto Logistics costs.

another tard joy.... when he can get onto my team i can show him how i play. how stupid are you people.

OK you said that you went 22 - 1 and got 291k ISK.
Above it states that your loadout costs 123k

So let do a little Maths.

ISK earned 291k
Fitting Cost 123k
Earnings to cost ratio 2.37

Means that you can die 2.37 times before you are loosing money simples.

You need to learn how to do Maths!

i'm very interessted in your equipment, please write it down as soon as the servers coming back.

...I don't think posting your fitting here violates NDA...you can post anything about the game you want here.

haaa..... love the retards on this forum who just assume. i come top of the board every single game & have done for weeks no spamming/ spawn camping or other bs. the bitter words of a sub standard gamer classic. tell you what when the squad system comes in i'll school you properly.

so i have the best part of 13million skill points & the best gear for everything in my assault class build. unfortunately now all my hard work and planning was for nothing as the money earned from every game i play does not cover the cost of my fitting of my first life. is this how ccp plan to force ps3 players to work for eve players? i dont want to work for eve players EVER! does any body know how the cash system will work on release for those of us who cant be bothered with the eve crap? surely as the isk says its contribution based at the very least you should get the value of your fitting back for each life you spend in battles. this morning i went 22-1 & hacked multiple objectives but only earned 291k isk my suit costs slightly more than that when its full of modules & equipment how is this in any way fair isk distribution? i'm having a bit of a rant here so apologies for that but i think its a fair point, will ps3 players be forced to play for eve guys in order to use the equipment unlocks that WE have earned because if thats the case i officially declare myself out right now.

Pay to win.........kinda confirmed don't you think?

That's fine wit me by the way......I'm no Communist.....

Hang on, my SVER slot was CommunistBrat...but that's beside the point.......

Pay to win all the way baby.......

haaa..... love the retards on this forum who just assume. i come top of the board every single game & have done for weeks no spamming/ spawn camping or other bs. the bitter words of a sub standard gamer classic. tell you what when the squad system comes in i'll school you properly.

I personally like the fact that it will cost u alot for high end gear, after all isn't it suppose to be risk vs reward. If we would always make up the cost for every fitting then what would be the point of the whole market.

With this system we wont run into guys wearing the highest possible gear every time they spawn and in every match. I believe this is part of the balancing.

After 5 deaths are you going to keep spawning with the same high end fitting. I only equip higher end fitting when I feel it is needed on the battlefield. It all depends on what the enemy is putting out and how my team is doing in the match.

Just my thoughts.

How in the hell do you go 20 or 30 kills to 1 or 2 deaths in an entire game on foot? In a tank, maybe, but on foot? I got a loooong way to go. When's the next bus to noob school?

How in the hell do you go 20 or 30 kills to 1 or 2 deaths in an entire game on foot? In a tank, maybe, but on foot? I got a loooong way to go. When's the next bus to noob school?

You need to just be aware of your surroundings. The biggest mistake I see people make is just running out in the middle of the open. Run from cover to cover but don't stop moving.

If you see a tank, and you're not anti vehicle, get the hell out.

If you're engaging more than two people, stay cautious and make sure you have an exit from the firefight.

Staying alive isn't just about having better gun game than the other person, it's more about knowing what is happening around you at all times and adjusting your position and playstyle to fit that situation.

+1 to this!

This is what alot of people seem to not grasp when going from high paced FPS such as CoD, to larger scale FPS games.

The other thing you have to bear in mind is that your health does not regenerate automatically unlike the majority of FPS games around.

Yeah that's true, it's like my brain shuts down once I hit the ground and I turn into Jeremy Clarkson; POWEEERRR!! Especially as a logi that's not a smart thing, it's just that if I'm not shooting at something, anything really, I feel like I'm not contributing. I just have to learn to stick to my squad like herpes.

Most of the angry players here are EVE players. The OP has been answered by the Dev's.

SHHHHH PEEEEEETREEEEE.
You'll make all the nOObs good. How am I supposed to grow my epeen when they know how to play ;)

Only way to get better is by playing people who are better

Canon fodder gets boringggggg

Only way to get better is by playing people who are better

Canon fodder gets boringggggg

Only gets boring if you don't play with them a bit before you headshot em.

Mom told me not to play with my food, but Goddamn is it ever fun!

FORGE GUN TO THE FACE!

All day with that damn forge gun.

*shaking fist*

Sounded more like pay to keep playing

how are you losing money?

how?

mind boggling

Do people seriously worry about not having enough ISK to cover the cost of their loadouts

Do people seriously worry about not having enough ISK to cover the cost of their loadouts

so what I've learnt from this thread is that EVERYONE playing DUST is amazing and gets at least 20/1 every match, is that right?

I for one sometimes get killed quite a bit, there Ive said it. although my KDR is 2.1 at the minute and Im only rocking T1 assault armour (close to caldari level 4 sp requirements now) mainly because i dont get much time to play so only have about 3.5mil sp in total.

hang on, does that mean my reasonable stats are a result of skill over kit?? with a fit cost of about 15K Im reaping the cash whilst dying.

or have i missed the point somewhere, should i die more cos i play less?

3 million isk will buy about 40 fits of my suit dude it dont go far, i bought 100 fittings outright & nearly bankrupted myself & now if i die 1 time or more in a game i'm losing money.

not answering the question dude i dont care about eve...

Erm, when factoring in the time VS ISK earned in DUST, it is radically different then EVE, so this is an extremely bad comparison.

For the same time in two DUST games and me earning a few hundred thousand ISK, I could blitz level IV security missions in EVE and earn myself an easy, stress free, 20-30 million ISK. 30Mill+ if I start really working at it per hour.

A few hundred thousand is significant in DUST.