If you don't have Prototype Swarm Launcher or Prototype Forge gun trained you really shouldn't be making or posting complaints about Marauder tanks. Someone's invested millions into their fit, put down your AR and train an AV solution to an appropriate level. I've killed several and only have the upgraded SL.

Prototype swarm launcher shoots 2 more missiles than the normal one, and one more than the tier-2 one. This is not a lot when you consider one missile (if it hits) deals only 350 damage. Not to mention how the weapon actually takes some time to load like the forge gun.

Now you are at the point of the problem, currently no matter how much ISK or SP you spend on anti-vehicle equipment you don't get such super weapons comparable to these marauders.

Fact: Prototype forge gun does more per shot and dps at max skills than a marauder.

Fact2: Prototype forge gun doesn't come with 2 rocket turrets nor make you close to invulnerable.

if web greanades flat out stopped tanks in their tracks, and were added, AV would be alot easier, you could wait for the tank to get into a good spot and go all ewok vs empire walker on it

Doesn't cost even 1/4 as much either. Point?

If I can keep a player in a well-fitted Marauder down to 4 - 0 K/D by making sure I'm the only one they focus on, while using no gear that needs replacing (Dragonfly, Toxin, Militia Swarm Launcher and Locus Grenades), someone with decent gear should be able to do the same with less effort. I only went 2 - 4, but I kept at least 150,000ISK out of the fight without losing ANYTHING, and my team won because the other team had 3 people in a vehicle hunting down one REALLY annoying Scout.

Good gear doesn't always mean good player. In the above example, REALLY not. Lunatic + Scout Suit > 3 idiots + Tank.

In another match, my Swarm Launcher fire, while not powerful, has provided enough of a diversion to let a Dropship get above and start raining fire, while a couple of Forge Gunners got into positions elsewhere nearby. End result? Dead tank, no deaths to any of our attackers. Again, I was running free gear against something extremely expensive.

And that's before you consider what REAL teamwork will bring to the game, or hte massive bump in price for tanks that's been mentioned.

I've seen a Sagaris die while I was shooting at it with my Militia Swarm Launcher.

I'm pretty sure our Eryx pilot was a major factor in its destruction. We had a well-geared Dropship staying outside the Tank's line of fire, and occasionally dropping AV soldiers (myself included) onto nearby rooftops when he had more passengers than gunners. By the time it went down, half our team was running AV builds or vehicles of their own.

I don't think they need nerfing I think they're good right now in terms of power. What they need is a price hike, and the devs have already said they're doing that.

Fact: Prototype forge gun does more per shot and dps at max skills than a marauder.

we know that forge guns are too stronk :) when the splash damage can one shot scout suits then something is really wrong.

as a tank hunter i have been on the wrong end of a sagaris more than a few times and i think its not an issue. the bigger issue that it does highlight is TEAMWORK.

it should take several players working together to take out a tank, at the moment the lack of comms is whats making the sagaris appear OP.

If one player can access a super weapon that needs the whole opposing team to take down, it is way overpowered there's simply no argument against it.

It doesn't even require teamwork to build/buy/get one of these tanks, why should it require team work to take one down?

Sure you need to spend hefty amount of SP to get one and a they cost a lot, but don't see any other class/build getting access to such super weapons.

the base cost of marauders is going to be 1.5m ISK so its only right for them to be tough, look at real tanks, the US Abram and the British Challenger 2 are some of the toughest tanks known to man, look at the combat records for Challenger 2, 70+ RPG without damage.

High cost does equal balance, I took out a sagaris the other day for the mere cost of 30k isk in combined deaths. I won economically even before the price nerf.

In a corporate contract in conquest mode, he would not have gotten paid for losing that despite making 30+ kills. Corps dont pay you kill people they pay you to take or defend stuff. Not my fault your attack or defense plan costed a quater billion one fight and the offense only lost a mere 100 million, and in the end the corp paying you got much less out of the area because you did a fine job damaging it they found it more economical to scrap the entire place and rebuild it. Which costs time and even more money.

If you fight every battle as though best expensive stuff is the way to go, you're going to lose entire wars becuase you run out of isk and ran out of sagaris to field to an outfit of poorly funded soldiers used to being paid bottom dollar and having to deal with such threats daily.