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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:03:00 - [91] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: I don't get why a direct SP transfer would be a bad thing. What does it matter if vets have a SP advantage at launch or 2 years down the road? If the ported game can expect to draw in new players 2 years down the road when we all have button of SP, it can expect to draw them in when we have buttons of SP at launch. This is an important point, one of the crucial make-or-break issue for Dust2. Really the question of whether sp or ISK should transfer is moot, the real question is: 'will CCP be willing and able to design a game that preserves a quality player experience in the face of sp and ISK imbalances?'. If they can achieve such a lofty goal then transferring vet's progress will do no harm, if they can't then Alena has predicted the future of Dust2. It's a problem common to all persistent mmorpgs, and if CCP is going to solve it they're going to have to step up their game-design game. EVE doesn't have this problem, which is wh I'm perplexed as to why they haven't figured this ** out yet..... Eve is an open universe which allows players to select who they want to be around. Eve has a multitude of activities outside of PVP which allows players to make money and play the game without being bullied by vets. ST SANDWICHES ONLY 1000 ISK. DON'T MISS OUT.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:10:00 - [92] - Quote I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. Saying what's on people's minds
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 556	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:52:00 - [93] - Quote SP, Apex/ LP suits and the quafe HMG is my first love SR my Sancha
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 40	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:56:00 - [94] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again
byte modal 346	Posted - 2015.12.21 17:14:00 - [95] - Quote DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. kitten bacon taco (nom)
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 161	Posted - 2015.12.21 17:57:00 - [96] - Quote Everything should be transferred, YES everything. Nothing will be ruined, no problems will happen. Why you ask? Ok here it is. Fix matchmaking everything solved. People get to keep their hard earned stuff and rewarded for their loyalty. New players don't get stomped when they try to play. How you ask do we fix matchmaking? Many people have many solutions, but the key is to allow people to keep what they earned and have new people play the game without getting stomped. Maybe something like different levels with sp limit so as to stop people from making a char for a year and building up sp, just to stomp. This will allow lower skilled players fight lower skill players in like type suits. 1) Training 2) Pub 1, basic stuff 3) Pub 2, advance stuff 4) Pub 3, open to all 5) FC Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Lanius Pulvis Evzones 372	Posted - 2015.12.21 18:44:00 - [97] - Quote I think everyone could agree, Aur should transfer. Some form of skins and BPOs should as well, though I suspect they're more likely to say "here's a set of BPOs and skins for all you loyal players" and not let us take our own, just so they can control the balance. Everything else you should work for, though I'd sorely miss my piloting skills. Not new, just new to you.
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 40	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:05:00 - [98] - Quote byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:23:00 - [99] - Quote I believe that most people would agree that due to the nature of ISK being able to be easily reearned in a short amount of time that ISK can be safely removed without pissing many people off (obviously, everyone would need a starting amount of ISK, or some starting gear, like in EVE). The split is with bought assets, and SP. One side thinks that everyone should be equal because they feel that it's going to be a new game, while others feel that it's a unnecessary thing to do, and that won't solve anything in the future. As I've already state, I see it as unnecessary. Dust is dust, updated, moved to a new platform, whatever, it's still dust. Simply saying "well because it moved means everything needs to be undone" is silly. However, I do understand the idea of growing a world, and a world with gods already within it would be odd. So, I wouldn't be opposed to say the booster idea. However, bought items of every kind needs to be transfered over, unless they decide to shut down the game for a extended period of time (1-3 years+). Even then, BPO's regardless would need to go over. Top lel
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:28:00 - [100] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: I believe that most people would agree that due to the nature of ISK being able to be easily reearned in a short amount of time that ISK can be safely removed without pissing many people off (obviously, everyone would need a starting amount of ISK, or some starting gear, like in EVE). The split is with bought assets, and SP. One side thinks that everyone should be equal because they feel that it's going to be a new game, while others feel that it's a unnecessary thing to do, and that won't solve anything in the future. As I've already state, I see it as unnecessary. Dust is dust, updated, moved to a new platform, whatever, it's still dust. Simply saying "well because it moved means everything needs to be undone" is silly. However, I do understand the idea of growing a world, and a world with gods already within it would be odd. So, I wouldn't be opposed to say the booster idea. However, bought items of every kind needs to be transfered over, unless they decide to shut down the game for a extended period of time (1-3 years+). Even then, BPO's regardless would need to go over. I hate to break it to you but thanks to trading (gifting) ISK is now a bought asset that people have spent real cash on. Before that I would have agreed that ISK can go away. How many boosters have people bought just to sell? How many skins have people bought just to sell? How many people bought Jara to get more for their NPC sales? How many people have bought warbarge components to upgrade their market network? (okay I admit not many on that) The list goes on but you see my point. Wiping out some peoples ISK is just the same as wiping out their skins or their BPOs. S**T SANDWICHES ONLY 1000 ISK. DON'T MISS OUT.

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:41:00 - [101] - Quote It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. "That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 40	Posted - 2015.12.21 20:57:00 - [102] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:03:00 - [103] - Quote DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:09:00 - [104] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. Sounds a bit similar to the issues we have with how ISK is distributed in DUST now. Many are so obscenely rich that cost is non issue. "That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:32:00 - [105] - Quote DJINN Heartreaper wrote: byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin You cant say IDGAF when you do, its contradicting. This is a video game bruh, not a career. To welcome new players into the fold, for proper balancing, and the fresh start, yes reset it. Ive been here four years as well. Spent money on merc packs and such. If this game will be ported to PS4, I want this game to flourish. I want new gamers to join up at its inception and have a balanced start. What dont want is you and the try hard gang chase away new players all because you cant let go of digital experience gain. Then Dust is on a current gen console with last gen CODMW population counts. Saying what's on people's minds
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.12.21 21:45:00 - [106] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. Sounds a bit similar to the issues we have with how ISK is distributed in DUST now. Many are so obscenely rich that cost is non issue. Not to mention we're being paid out far too much per battle and that there is no way our dropsuits, tanks, equipment, etc cost as much as they do. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Mr.Pepe Le Pew The Tasteless Gentlemen 338	Posted - 2015.12.21 22:02:00 - [107] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: This is really linked to the article I wrote last night, but I wanted to start a thread out of curiosity for how people feel about my prediction that character progression and asets in the port will be wiped. Just assume that you're in my world of Boundless Optimism, and a port happens, may that be on PS4 or PC or whatever. What would you want to transfer over from this game to the next? ISK AUR SP LP Faction Standing DK BPOs SKINs Gear/Suits/Assets ect. What do you think would be appropriate for CCP to allow to be transferred? BPO's SKINS Gear make everyone start from scratch.
byte modal 349	Posted - 2015.12.21 22:06:00 - [108] - Quote DJINN Heartreaper wrote: byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin Forgive me. I mistyped when introducing my reply. I should have written "petulant much?" You are entitled because you are you? "I've been in DUST bla bla..." yes, yes. Same here. If time in is the measure of understanding, then you got nothing there. Unfortunate for some, time in to a video game does not equal understanding, reason, logic, consideration, or perception of reality. You bought boosters and AUR. If you've used them, then you've exhausted their value already. You have 80m SP, all the gear and, I would hope, wins to show for it in trade. Grats to you for stepping up and getting ahead ...in DUST. You have already claimed the value of the product you purchased. IF you haven't spent the AUR and boosters from the Merc Pack you bought, then what are you waiting for? Click that lil button, soldier! Silly response is silly. imdediate, indeed. +1 for making me giggle? honest engine. You get a like. kitten bacon taco (nom)
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 41	Posted - 2015.12.21 22:08:00 - [109] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin You cant say IDGAF when you do, its contradicting. This is a video game bruh, not a career. To welcome new players into the fold, for proper balancing, and the fresh start, yes reset it. Ive been here four years as well. Spent money on merc packs and such. If this game will be ported to PS4, I want this game to flourish. I want new gamers to join up at its inception and have a balanced start. What dont want is you and the try hard gang chase away new players all because you cant let go of digital experience gain. Then Dust is on a current gen console with last gen CODMW population counts. Re read..idgaf about my isk and Sp...autocorrect made it so..I can say idgaf cuz I truly don't about what I said..read next time
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 41	Posted - 2015.12.21 22:12:00 - [110] - Quote byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin Forgive me. I mistyped when introducing my reply. I should have written "petulant much?" You are entitled because you are you? "I've been in DUST bla bla..." yes, yes. Same here. If time in is the measure of understanding, then you got nothing there. Unfortunate for some, time in to a video game does not equal understanding, reason, logic, consideration, or perception of reality. You bought boosters and AUR. If you've used them, then you've exhausted their value already. You have 80m SP, all the gear and, I would hope, wins to show for it in trade. Grats to you for stepping up and getting ahead ...in DUST. You have already claimed the value of the product you purchased. IF you haven't spent the AUR and boosters from the Merc Pack you bought, then what are you waiting for? Click that lil button, soldier! Silly response is silly. imdediate, indeed. +1 for making me giggle? honest engine. You get a like. Obviously =ƒÿÄ sota only does anime now so I figured I'd shake off the dust and get some peeps riled up

DDx777 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.12.21 22:36:00 - [111] - Quote If it is the same business model as Dust514 ( FTP* ) Then I simply think they'll name it something else and hopefully give some type of starter pack for returning Dust players It makes no sense for them to already be giving up resources and possible revenue streams for a new "FTP" game. At best expect vouchers for some Aurum items such as Skins, Boosters, or a Respec. You are crazy if you think all ( or any ) skills, ISK, and items are transferring over. It will be a "new" game with "new" stuff on a "newer" platform
DJINN Heartreaper Negative-Feedback. 41	Posted - 2015.12.21 23:58:00 - [112] - Quote Tbh I don't expect anything it'd just be nice..at this point I don't expect a port even
DIinkelFritz The Eternal Noxium Imperium 25	Posted - 2015.12.22 00:26:00 - [113] - Quote -Aurum spent is refunded back the the appropriate account. This way the free aurum items that people like me have been stockpiling won't be turned into free AUR. - All skins are carried over. - All officer and experimental weapons are converted to BPC's in a 1 to 1 ratio. In this way, we still have the equipment. We just have to get the resources and industry up enough to make use of these weapons. -All BPO's remain as BPO's and transfer, albeit the statistics may have to change with the new game. This allows us legacy players to keep our rightly earned trophy's. We make use of the BPOs like EVE does, where we have to make them using resources, but the we will always have the blueprint. - For balance purposes of the game, SP should not transfer over (though a free booster would be nice) Since any boosters used have an AUR cost, they would be refunded. - ISK should remain. Skill points determine the level of gear you can use; and not transferring ISK would be pointless, as all parties can easily transfer ISK to EVE accounts or Corporate accounts. If the design of the next dust makes having Isk easy to win at the beginning, then CCP is digging themselves a hole. - Any DK and Command points earned by Corporations should remain. If DK and CP are removed, while the current owners of the planets of Molden Heath keep the planetary assets. It makes PC holders the only winners for the DK market and would be a grossly unbalanced start from the beginning. Other corps that have had and lost or traded DK can pose a threat. Perhaps long enough for new players to be introduced into the fray. (If DK and Command point system is removed, then remove the all DK and Command points as they are obviously pointless) Committed suicide....again...
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.12.22 00:50:00 - [114] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. People have to stop thinking this. Injecting tons of ISK into a Corporation is no guarantee it's members are any good. This isn't like EVE where you just point and click. If you have an unlimited bank account but no skill, you'll just be able to sustain losing constantly. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.12.22 00:56:00 - [115] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. People have to stop thinking this. Injecting tons of ISK into a Corporation is no guarantee it's members are any good. This isn't like EVE where you just point and click. If you have an unlimited bank account but no skill, you'll just be able to sustain losing constantly. It's not about good it's about being able to acquire so much Dust ISK that I couldn't spend it all in a decade if I tried. As of right now if ISK trading was opened up I could inject roundly 2.3 Billion ISK immediately into my Dust players account, spend hundreds of millions of ISK on half a dozen prototype suit and tank fittings and literally never run through them all. ((Hell I could bank roll the ten or twelve former PCLAS members for a few years with 0 in game effort)) Firstly where is the fun in that and secondly how the ** do you justify a bankrolling of that kind in a gritty economic setting. I mean ** it at that point I might as well just retire and never both playing because the goal of economic gain is gone. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings 1	Posted - 2015.12.22 01:40:00 - [116] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: byte modal wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: I don't expect anything to transfer. I think if they were to port to PS4, for the health of the community, its best that everyone starts fresh. Maybe keep your ISK...maybe. SP, get rid of it. BPOs, get rid of it. The current community will be upset but we have to consider the future and the welcoming of new community members and the fairness thereof. It's a bit self handicapping to move it to PS4, everyone keeps what they've gained from PS3, thus providing a substantial skillgap between those who didn't play on PS3 and those who have. Which would leave to "Dust Gods" starting genocide on the noobs. They would leave the game and go back to Battlefront, COD, and PS2. While the same guys here in this forum now will remain, clamoring for CCP to do something to change that. If we as a community want the livelihood of this game to be healthy by moving it to PS4, then we should consider sacrificing what we have gained to make sure everyone gets a equal standing and chance to become great in Dust. This would also point back to CCP in ways of advertising. Dust needs to be advertised on PS4 greatly. It could work in their favor as a console version of Star Citizen. Though I understand that CCP might not want to get that Gameloft "copy high profile games to gain crowds" title, it would be best since console gamers would probably make the comparisons. As a nod to PS3 vets, maybe offer PS3 vet dropsuits or you keep your ranks. Let's just accept that PS3 Dust was a major beta test. Let's sacrifice the SP if they move to PS4. And what about the money we spent on this "10 year plan"? Idgaf about my 80m sp or 600m isk or officer and bpo's but I do care what I bought with real money..aur/boosters..if that doesn't get refunded then I'm out..ya'll can get screwed but I won't again Entitled much? You paid for boosters in DUST, and you got the boosted earn to get that 80m SP. You're using it (assuming you still currently play), so money well spent. Money spent for immediate gratification is just that. It's not a ticket for perpetual self-entitled interests. Take advantage while both DUST and the PS3 are still online. You did not, however, buy stock in next-gen development, no matter what you assume. Period. If CCP has the notion to give back in this "port" as a gesture of gratitude, then bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason for that assumption, or whining. Just sayin. Immediate gratification? Lol you're stupid and yes I'm entitled it's who I am...I've been in dust for almost 4 years..I'm one of the first people to play this game and you're just someone who doesn't understand anything.."imdediate" =ƒñö All I asked was for my boosters that came with the merc pack and aur returned...they can take my isk and so idgaf Just sayin You cant say IDGAF when you do, its contradicting. This is a video game bruh, not a career. To welcome new players into the fold, for proper balancing, and the fresh start, yes reset it. Ive been here four years as well. Spent money on merc packs and such. If this game will be ported to PS4, I want this game to flourish. I want new gamers to join up at its inception and have a balanced start. What dont want is you and the try hard gang chase away new players all because you cant let go of digital experience gain. Then Dust is on a current gen console with last gen CODMW population counts. Sounds like a personal problem. I'm so tired of hearing the clear disdain of players who can't compete against those who are better than them in a combat scenario, yet hide behind "what's right for the community". It's truly a pathetic ideal to hide behind. The principles that dust was created upon are not the same as COD, BF3, or Destiny. The very topic of this thread is a derailment to the players who put time into this game, and have everything to show for it. Yet apparently this achievement is always condemned by those who can't quite reach the level of their stronger counterparts. Instead of punishing those who stand out above the rest, maybe you should consider the meta lock alternative, separating higher tier equipment on the battlefield. I keep seeing folks that want isk removed really bad. There really isnt a detriment to the level they are describing. It almost seems as if the folks who never made alot of isk are doing the most complaining over it forum-side. Isk is made by collectively working together. So even if they were to wipe it, those who were rich before will inevitably become rich again. Even if you completely wipe stats and benefits made over time, the weak will still lose to the strong. The best hope for the less fortunate is a meta lock. LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
Grease Spillett OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2015.12.22 01:47:00 - [117] - Quote Every slice of Aur I ever spent plus an astronomical amount more for putting up with this thread. Somebody call for an exterminator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2015.12.22 01:52:00 - [118] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. Wasn't that the original point? Free isk! (comment with in game name) #portdust514
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2015.12.22 01:57:00 - [119] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: True Adamance wrote: DJINN Heartreaper wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: It would be hilarious if they allowed people to keep their ISK but then allowed ISK transfers from EVE. Would basically make whatever amount saved up in DUST completely inconsequential. Everything would be really expensive for non EvE players lmao This simply cannot be allowed to happen. EVER! Dust must never have a linked economy with EVE online. EVE players like myself could literally inundate entire corporations and alliances with enough ISK to sustain themselves for ever functionally killing the aspect of assets actually mattering. Wasn't that the original point? To be fair there could be a system where EVE players could reward DUST players in a way not tied to ISK. The point was to have a mutual relationship between the two games, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be through the transfer of ISK. "That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
benandjerrys WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2015.12.22 02:05:00 - [120] - Quote My point is that we were supposed to be just that, A mercenary. To fill the protection of planatery interaction you wouldn't want your profit to be dwarfed by your "protection money" Free isk! (comment with in game name) #portdust514



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