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Maken Tosch wrote:

Yaerus Steel wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Please pardon the delayed response; two compound questions:

1) Assuming the above were introduced as presented, what modules would you run on a competitively fit MinScout? Why?

2) If hp-tanked units are already accustomed to being scanned, how would an increase to scan profile affect them? In what way are they "penalized" if they were going to be scanned with or without the penalty?

1) Running a Min scout I would run as a Hacker or NK'r. This being the case a Hacker with extenders, damp, code breaker, kinkats to scoot by under most passives, and get to the point quickly. As a NK'r about the same thing but with damp, green, red bottle. I am not in anyway a competitive scout though.

2) It would affect them in two ways slow them down further and increase the range they are seen even on passives. Allowing for people choosing the non-tanked route to get a greater tactical advantage. If you can see your enemy and they cant see you yet, you could get that jump on them to cancel out any advantage they have in a head to head fight.

But then again that takes thinking on part of the player.

As a dedicated nova knifer with years experience now, I can say that dampening on a minscout is only good up to a certain point. I am just too use to being spotted on scans so I adapted in some ways to counter that. The hills, or any part of the terrain that is not a man-made structure, have a negative impact on the passive scans of players. Once a knifer hides in the hills, you are no longer able to utilize passive scans and thus forced to go in after them unless you happen to have active scanners fitted on you. If you don't you are then fighting on my terms where I have already adapted to listening for footsteps (thanks to my headset) and being all fast and dodgy on rolling hills. Even if I am forced to fight in a city where passive scans can see me, the structures provide enough cover against bullets. A crate* and a wall offer more EHP than any shield extender I could fit. In many case, I just stack nothing but kincats and damage mods for my knives and hope for the best.

* - shameful typo spotted

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Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 699	Posted - 2015.09.11 01:14:00 - [361] - Quote Please re-add the proto variations of the breach and burst scrambler pistol. The Mistress of Massdrivers Looking to trade Nomad Assault for Serpent Scout. Check out my trading trade for more info
goerf DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.09.11 01:29:00 - [362] - Quote What do I want and when do I want it? That is easy but this is the wrong topic. What I want is to stop the tiny tweaks, and re-balancing. Fix some of the long standing bugs, the annoying little ones that have always been there like the wrong splash screen before a battle to the newly introduced things like the team chat after a battle is joined never letting you join a squad after entering FW. These little bugs are adding up and I fear they will be ported over to the next iteration of Dust before being fixed. A mass driver can always be nerfed, but elastic spawn points that pull you back each time you are a certain distance away need a deeper attention to detail and attention soon.
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 01:37:00 - [363] - Quote goerf wrote: What do I want and when do I want it? That is easy but this is the wrong topic. What I want is to stop the tiny tweaks, and re-balancing. Fix some of the long standing bugs, the annoying little ones that have always been there like the wrong splash screen before a battle to the newly introduced things like the team chat after a battle is joined never letting you join a squad after entering FW. These little bugs are adding up and I fear they will be ported over to the next iteration of Dust before being fixed. A mass driver can always be nerfed, but elastic spawn points that pull you back each time you are a certain distance away need a deeper attention to detail and attention soon. Team chat not letting you join a squad was an intended feature, but I would like to have it back. Fake AE FTW
Istal Immortal Bank of DUST 514 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 02:37:00 - [364] - Quote 1)Fix vehicle stealing. many people have given many wonderful solutions. 2) Remove delay at start of game once vehicle is deployed and owner is in it. 3) add 1 more slot to vehicles and more cpu/pg on proto level.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 02:43:00 - [365] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: Remove MCC missile damage from the game. Any mechanic that prevents a comeback is an extremely stupid one. Have to support this. The current mechanic is designed to crush hope. It's bad game design juju. PSN: RationalSpark
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 02:45:00 - [366] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: Remove MCC missile damage from the game. Any mechanic that prevents a comeback is an extremely stupid one. Have to support this. The current mechanic is designed to crush hope. It's bad game design juju. Or maybe don't remove them, but instead of shooting at each other they shoot at enies in the redline. Fake AE FTW
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.09.11 03:22:00 - [367] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: Remove MCC missile damage from the game. Any mechanic that prevents a comeback is an extremely stupid one. But then you couldn't do this
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 336	Posted - 2015.09.11 03:28:00 - [368] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What do you want, when do you want it and how? CPM2 has been working on their priorities, and so have we. Name one thing we should look at, single sentence and no bs. I will have you permabanned if my thread is derailed i would really like 48 person multiplayer back please i really dont think theres enough people to fill the map but i understand mabey you dont have the resources makes me feel sorry becuase i like this game that ive played for 3 years i just know it has more potential Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 03:31:00 - [369] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: What do you want, when do you want it and how? CPM2 has been working on their priorities, and so have we. Name one thing we should look at, single sentence and no bs. I will have you permabanned if my thread is derailed i would really like 48 person multiplayer back please i really dont think theres enough people to fill the map but i understand mabey you dont have the resources makes me feel sorry becuase i like this game that ive played for 3 years i just know it has more potential Oh god yes. You realize this is a hotfix right? In hotfixes you can only change the stats of items, you can't add stuff into the game. Fake AE FTW
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.09.11 03:38:00 - [370] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: What do you want, when do you want it and how? CPM2 has been working on their priorities, and so have we. Name one thing we should look at, single sentence and no bs. I will have you permabanned if my thread is derailed i would really like 48 person multiplayer back please i really dont think theres enough people to fill the map but i understand mabey you dont have the resources makes me feel sorry becuase i like this game that ive played for 3 years i just know it has more potential For that, we would need CCP Rattati to implement the final part of limited dropsuit tiericide so that we can be sure we have enough PS3 memory to support that many players. Also, I have been playing Dust 514 since the Replication build of Closed Beta and I never once saw 48-person multiplayer. If there ever was before that time, then it was probably when we had very limited content available when only four suits literally existed. Gallente Scout, Caldari Assault, Minmatar Logistics, and Amarr Heavy. That was it. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

nosa skamrosa Academy Inferno E-R-A 64	Posted - 2015.09.11 06:35:00 - [371] - Quote Scan equipment with a radius of 75 m or multinanohive (scan + amo + repair)
Yaerus Steel Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion. 45	Posted - 2015.09.11 15:05:00 - [372] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Yaerus Steel wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Yaerus Steel wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: What: https://trello.com/c/hXCkMe0b/532-shield-tanking-buff-armor-nerf When: preferably prior to tuning Rifles How: by increasing fitting req'ts for plates (all types and tiers). Opposite of this. Bring shield fitting requirements down. Look at the shield recharge delay and buffer to make them slightly more durable. Weapons balanced in a separate patch from the sheild/armor balance. Thoughts on dual tanking? Add more movement reduction to armor and have sheild light up like a light house on all scans passive and active. Your losing either mobility or stealth. This would balance it out. Dual tankers would gain survivability but lose any ambushing ability they may have had. On a separate subject ewar needs some love again. Please pardon the delayed response; two compound questions: 1) Assuming the above were introduced as presented, what modules would you run on a competitively fit MinScout? Why? 2) If hp-tanked units are already accustomed to being scanned, how would an increase to scan profile affect them? In what way are they "penalized" if they were going to be scanned with or without the penalty? 1) Running a Min scout I would run as a Hacker or NK'r. This being the case a Hacker with extenders, damp, code breaker, kinkats to scoot by under most passives, and get to the point quickly. As a NK'r about the same thing but with damp, green, red bottle. I am not in anyway a competitive scout though. 2) It would affect them in two ways slow them down further and increase the range they are seen even on passives. Allowing for people choosing the non-tanked route to get a greater tactical advantage. If you can see your enemy and they cant see you yet, you could get that jump on them to cancel out any advantage they have in a head to head fight. But then again that takes thinking on part of the player.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.09.11 17:57:00 - [373] - Quote Came back with another minor thing, mission tab in character sheet please, i like to check my progress and even if it does not refresh till the end of battle it would be useful to see what i have to do. Regressed to blueberry level.
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 196	Posted - 2015.09.11 18:15:00 - [374] - Quote Add a note to the sign-in screen related to the hierarchical and technical nature of: Hotfix, Update, and Release? butsrsly: Give the scout suits of all races slightly more precision (one basic module worth?) so that their role as forward-recon can be recovered. Increase the DPS and range of the SMG slightly so that it feels somewhat like it's older version (pre-parity), and give a small bump to the effectiveness of the MagSec SMG. Reduce the 'bad-pull' penalty on the Scrambler Pistol ever-so-slightly. Return unlimited fit myo-fly-brils, then give them a stacked-penalty to stamina used per jump. Increase raw damage 100% on small blaster turrets decrease swarm launcher effectiveness by 10% (both damage and concussion) reduce core locus grenade lethality by 5% put the breach shotgun back where it was give the breach AR some of it's 'thump' back increase effective range on basic AR by 5% (or consider giving gallente a sidearm to counter long range weapons) -daj See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 126	Posted - 2015.09.11 18:16:00 - [375] - Quote First off This is not a "Hotfix" and CCP does not deploy "Hotfixes" Any first level computer programmer knows that a hotfix is deployed while the system is still up and running hence the name hotfix, which comes trom the the root that the system is still hot and running. What CCP does is deploy "updates" which are done when the system is shut down. Lets all use the right terms and not act like idiots. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.09.11 18:44:00 - [376] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: First off This is not a "Hotfix" and CCP does not deploy "Hotfixes" Any first level computer programmer knows that a hotfix is deployed while the system is still up and running hence the name hotfix, which comes trom the the root that the system is still hot and running. What CCP does is deploy "updates" which are done when the system is shut down. Lets all use the right terms and not act like idiots. No need to get your panties in a twist, he's asking the community what needs to be done, the least you could do is not say anything at all you bloody snowflake Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.09.11 18:47:00 - [377] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: First off This is not a "Hotfix" and CCP does not deploy "Hotfixes" Any first level computer programmer knows that a hotfix is deployed while the system is still up and running hence the name hotfix, which comes trom the the root that the system is still hot and running. What CCP does is deploy "updates" which are done when the system is shut down. Lets all use the right terms and not act like idiots. the pedantry is strong in this one. Forgive us for not being "first level computer programmers". "you are pathetic little fat bald man sitting on the chair with chinese controller". -4lbert wesker
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:05:00 - [378] - Quote Yaerus Steel wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Please pardon the delayed response; two compound questions: 1) Assuming the above were introduced as presented, what modules would you run on a competitively fit MinScout? Why? 2) If hp-tanked units are already accustomed to being scanned, how would an increase to scan profile affect them? In what way are they "penalized" if they were going to be scanned with or without the penalty? 1) Running a Min scout I would run as a Hacker or NK'r. This being the case a Hacker with extenders, damp, code breaker, kinkats to scoot by under most passives, and get to the point quickly. As a NK'r about the same thing but with damp, green, red bottle. I am not in anyway a competitive scout though. 2) It would affect them in two ways slow them down further and increase the range they are seen even on passives. Allowing for people choosing the non-tanked route to get a greater tactical advantage. If you can see your enemy and they cant see you yet, you could get that jump on them to cancel out any advantage they have in a head to head fight. But then again that takes thinking on part of the player. As a dedicated nova knifer with years experience now, I can say that dampening on a minscout is only good up to a certain point. I am just too use to being spotted on scans so I adapted in some ways to counter that. The hills, or any part of the terrain that is not a man-made structure, have a negative impact on the passive scans of players. Once a knifer hides in the hills, you are no longer able to utilize passive scans and thus forced to go in after them unless you happen to have active scanners fitted on you. If you don't you are then fighting on my terms where I have already adapted to listening for footsteps (thanks to my headset) and being all fast and dodgy on rolling hills. Even if I am forced to fight in a city where passive scans can see me, the structures provide enough cover against bullets. A crate* and a wall offer more EHP than any shield extender I could fit. In many case, I just stack nothing but kincats and damage mods for my knives and hope for the best. * - shameful typo spotted Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 1	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:08:00 - [379] - Quote a port dust 514 ruined console gaming for me pc master race PORT IT CCP
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 1	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:10:00 - [380] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: What do you want, when do you want it and how? CPM2 has been working on their priorities, and so have we. Name one thing we should look at, single sentence and no bs. I will have you permabanned if my thread is derailed i would really like 48 person multiplayer back please i really dont think theres enough people to fill the map but i understand mabey you dont have the resources makes me feel sorry becuase i like this game that ive played for 3 years i just know it has more potential For that, we would need CCP Rattati to implement the final part of limited dropsuit tiericide so that we can be sure we have enough PS3 memory to support that many players. Also, I have been playing Dust 514 since the Replication build of Closed Beta and I never once saw 48-person multiplayer. If there ever was before that time, then it was probably when we had very limited content available when only four suits literally existed. Gallente Scout, Caldari Assault, Minmatar Logistics, and Amarr Heavy. That was it. i dont recall there ever being 48 p dust 514 ruined console gaming for me pc master race PORT IT CCP

Hubert De LaBatte Prima Gallicus 114	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:41:00 - [381] - Quote -Framerate issues. -Framerate issues increasing with the evolution of fights. -Framerate issues in Planetary Conquest, picture by picture mode "on" -Unbalanced quality of connection in Planetary Conquest, principaly between 2 different server, US/EU/AS. In all case there is a "normal" side (give damage and lag at normal level), and a "bad" side (no damages given, teleporting, big framerate issues, instantly killed). These reasons are the number 1 to make players ragequit and uninstall the game, others are just not important at all. -Increase the Eve/Dust link. Just one thing to restart the crossplay: Choosing the systems in fw fights like 2 years ago, please! Thanks Prima Gallicus Dust Ceo, Planetary Conquest Leader since first fight
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.11 22:50:00 - [382] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Yaerus Steel wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Please pardon the delayed response; two compound questions: 1) Assuming the above were introduced as presented, what modules would you run on a competitively fit MinScout? Why? 2) If hp-tanked units are already accustomed to being scanned, how would an increase to scan profile affect them? In what way are they "penalized" if they were going to be scanned with or without the penalty? 1) Running a Min scout I would run as a Hacker or NK'r. This being the case a Hacker with extenders, damp, code breaker, kinkats to scoot by under most passives, and get to the point quickly. As a NK'r about the same thing but with damp, green, red bottle. I am not in anyway a competitive scout though. 2) It would affect them in two ways slow them down further and increase the range they are seen even on passives. Allowing for people choosing the non-tanked route to get a greater tactical advantage. If you can see your enemy and they cant see you yet, you could get that jump on them to cancel out any advantage they have in a head to head fight. But then again that takes thinking on part of the player. As a dedicated nova knifer with years experience now, I can say that dampening on a minscout is only good up to a certain point. I am just too use to being spotted on scans so I adapted in some ways to counter that. The hills, or any part of the terrain that is not a man-made structure, have a negative impact on the passive scans of players. Once a knifer hides in the hills, you are no longer able to utilize passive scans and thus forced to go in after them unless you happen to have active scanners fitted on you. If you don't you are then fighting on my terms where I have already adapted to listening for footsteps (thanks to my headset) and being all fast and dodgy on rolling hills. Even if I am forced to fight in a city where passive scans can see me, the structures provide enough cover against bullets. A crate* and a wall offer more EHP than any shield extender I could fit. In many case, I just stack nothing but kincats and damage mods for my knives and hope for the best. * - shameful typo spotted With respect, the opinions above fail to account for the effects of the GalLogi. Adding a scan profile penalty to shield extenders would without question move EWAR interplay (and with it, Scout performance) further away from balance than toward it. In competitive play and in a high percentage of High Mu pubs today, you're either below 21dB or you are always (at minimum, almost always) active scanned. This has made moot any effort to dampen by non-Scouts. Further, always-up 21dB active scans wholly override middle and outer ring passive scans in a wide range of settings, including (but not limited to) small-to-medium sized sockets, large areas surrounding contested objectives, and all but the outskirts of most Ambush, Dom and Acq matches. All else held constant, it is my opinion that adding a scan profile penalty to shield extenders would (1) go largely unnoticed by the high-profile dual tankers whom the penalty is supposed to discourage and (2) would detrimentally impact Scout performance as well as intra-class parity and (3) would worsen an already poor state of EWAR interplay.
The-Errorist 1	Posted - 2015.09.11 23:12:00 - [383] - Quote 1) Proxychat 2) Being able to queue up for battles at the EOM screen 3) When in a squad, make us load into a warbarge with our squad instead of our MQ when out of battle. 4) Being able to go to a warbarge area that has corp members. Escalation game mode Infantry: Velvet Overkill Vehicles: Agent Overkill
Imp Smash Molon Labe. RUST415 875	Posted - 2015.09.11 23:39:00 - [384] - Quote Shield/Armor support devices (rep tools, recharge tools, shield transporter tools, whatever)
abdullah muzaffar Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.09.12 00:48:00 - [385] - Quote Better Salvage/Strongbox Rates(No x1/2 Drops). Only Pro+ gear. Reduce Lab to 100c/item. Increase max fittings.(Owner of almost all apex.) Becomes a pita when you have to keep deleting fits to try out new ones. Basic Assault FG(+STD Variant BPOs). Mlt gear buff to STD(Except for fitting). Quafe Trading. Team chat in battle. AutoSquads. My Trades
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 2	Posted - 2015.09.12 01:35:00 - [386] - Quote Port or at least a Kickstarter so we can get a Port If not, All issues related to Framerate. Ie. Power cores
Leovarian L Lavitz TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context 1	Posted - 2015.09.12 06:09:00 - [387] - Quote Make CRUs and mobile CRUs cost no clones to spawn on. Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto One V One Emperor
RKKR WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.12 08:49:00 - [388] - Quote Breach PLC with the old arc (bye bye roofcampers)(maybe with additional flux splash damage as some structures absorb damage)
Clobnarr Art.of.Death Smart Deploy 61	Posted - 2015.09.12 09:10:00 - [389] - Quote nosa skamrosa wrote: Scan equipment with a radius of 75 m or multinanohive (scan + amo + repair) Because that wouldn't encourage camping...
Bar Be Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2015.09.12 09:11:00 - [390] - Quote Mario jump nerf. Jumpy Assaults, ugh.



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