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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2015.07.28 09:44:00 - [1] - Quote What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.28 10:06:00 - [2] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Amarr: Paladins, Crusader, Sentinel (since the amarr sentinel existed first) Minmatar: Valklear, Einherjar (volunteer soldiers), Berserker, Jarls, Jotunn, Vanir Caldari: more contemporary definition as the megacorps are highly traditional and conservative. Grenadiers, Shocktroopers, Elite Corps, Scout Snipers, Sappers, Etc. Gallente: More poetic and evocative names since Gallente seem to push style as well as function. Unit nicknames or descriptors mixed and matched eclectically to show the gallente diversity of personality: Federal Marines, Black Eagles, Rangers, Helldivers, Spartoi (supernatural warriors born of dragon's teeth), Special Operations Capable (SOC), Stalkers (infiltration and assault inside enemy lines), Etc. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 25	Posted - 2015.07.28 10:32:00 - [3] - Quote The Minmatar Valklears, whilst unquestionably an elite unit, are also universally ex-criminals. I'm not particularly opposed to the idea of having Valklears as such a title but I do think that as absolute top ranking and prestigious ranks they might not be suitable. I think Einherjar is an excellent suggestion for the Minmatar that I would second. Although I'm not a die-hard Minmatar loyalist I think it fits well with the lore and is an appropriately prestigious title. Templars were named as an incredibly elite and prestigious unit in Templar One - the soldiers selected for the first generation Templar process were the absolute best the Empire had to offer, but after the failure of the project I'm not sure if there'd be a stigma about it? It's certainly a prestigious term, though. Any soldier in the Amarr military is known as a Paladin. It's not particularly noteworthy. I... really want to suggest Imperial Guard... but WH40k. Imperial Templars? Amongst the Gallente, administrative (but not physical) postings to Luminaire are prestigious, hence Luminaire General being the highest irregular naval rank. Luminaire Marine, perhaps? Black Eagles are incredibly controversial and I'd hesitate to suggest that name for a top rank. They're also primarily an intelligence arm and aren't attached to military combat branches. I suppose if you stretch this a bit it might fit the DUST mercenary aspect, but you still have the problem of it being a highly controversial organisation even within die-hard Gallente loyalist groups. There isn't a great deal of lore on well-known elite Gallente military units. There're legends like 62 Bravo Company, but those were regulars. CPM2 candidate Gallente Guide
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:42:00 - [4] - Quote Caldari State's most powerful military sub factions are corporate owned. they are better trained and funded than State forces. KAALAKIOTA CORPORATION is the most powerful of the 8 mega corps. It's private police and security organization is called Home Guard. Though there is little to no actual info on Home Guard. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kaalakiota_Corporation_(NPC_corporation) https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Home_Guard_(NPC_corporation) Home Guard Elite?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:53:00 - [5] - Quote Toughest does not mean popular. The black eagles, for instance may have an INCREDIBLY bad rep. But they are some of the most viciously effective operatives in New Eden. They are also responsible for the adaptation of new gear types to unexpected use. Strapping battleship guns on a mining/security hull resulted in the Talos battlecruiser, a Black Eagle design. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
I-Shayz-I I----------I 6	Posted - 2015.07.28 12:01:00 - [6] - Quote For Minmatar the question is does 'Duct Tape Virtuoso' make more sense as the lowest rank or the highest rank? 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! -- Vote for Cross!
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 12:03:00 - [7] - Quote Have you tried speaking with Eve's storyline department and the Mercury section of the ISD? They should have a better idea of the background and actual lore of each faction. At the very least, let them amend what you implement into official Eve lore. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 25	Posted - 2015.07.28 12:08:00 - [8] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Toughest does not mean popular. The black eagles, for instance may have an INCREDIBLY bad rep. But they are some of the most viciously effective operatives in New Eden. This is true. I'm not particularly opposed to Black Eagles here, but I'm not hugely for it either. They do have a very significant paramilitary arm, so that does actually fit DUST mercs... Hm. Maybe I do like it. @Rattati - What is this for? Player ranks? Arkena Wyrnspire - CPM2 candidate
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 588	Posted - 2015.07.28 12:38:00 - [9] - Quote hmmmmmm..........as part of the dual infomorph empyhern project (capsuleer/clone merc) not sure what rank I would like to have considering the program was a joint project between the black eagles / federal marines / federation navy. iam open for ideas and what ever rank. https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521458/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/47521142 Oppose me and you shall incure my wrath.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:00:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor I'll ask around in PIE Inc to see if we can draw up some obscure lore references about this for the Amarr side of things though as far as I understand it there is little enough cannon to really draw answer from. Though there is nothing truly established for the Amarr when it comes to a military heirachy I can make some guesses as to what the progression of skilled units available to the Empire might look like. Paladin - Otherwise could be Paladin Crusader. This seems more or less to be the rank and file of the Amarr militaries being one of the lowest ranks available to capsuleers within the 24th Imperial Crusade Faction in EVE. Additionally the quotation attached to the Confessor TIII destroy substantiate that it would be a rank in the terrestrial forces or at least at one point had been. Your first duty is to purge yourself in the flames of your confession before God. You must become ash in God's hands, for only then may you rise anew to strike the adversary down. -Apostle-Martial Zhar Pashay's dawn address to the Paladins at the Battle of Rahdo, Amarr Prime AD 20538 This was apparently recorded from around the time the Amarr were conquering Assimia or the mainland continent that previously belong to (my own people) the Udorian City-States in a pre-space flight era. Additionally there is a Paladin's Creed established in the Scriptures from Prophetess Kuria (possibly a Khanid saint), "I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed Paladin are likely the primary infantry available that compose the armies of the Amarr Empire. Kameiras- Kameira's are genetically engineered and specifically bred Minmatar slave soldiers raised to fight as the Empires elite shock troops. As the legacy of the infamous H.E.P Programme (Human Endurance Programme) they represent soldiers both enhanced through advanced biological and bred carefully to produce only the most desirable genetic compositions which are then taken at young ages and folded into Junior Subigo Houses where they are subject to advanced methods off indoctrination and vigorous physical regimes. Those who survive life as a Junior Subigo then undertake trials at age fourteen and if successful enter into Senior Subigo Houses and divided into combat sized groups, Their education is then taken to a much more advanced level as their instructors attempt to teach them about their role as a part of the great whole introducing strategy, tactics, survival, hand to hand combat, and operation of military hardware in everything from fire arms to vehicles. If this is completed satisfactorily they are once more tested and eventually accepted as Adepts at age 19. From here these combat groups are typically given True Amarr officers and drafted into the Amarrian military as irregular units as a result of certain traits being developed over time that otherwise could not be policed within the arms of the regular Amarrian military. Kameira's are the only Amarrian infantry allowed to let their hair grow out, additionally the Kameira's have a unique burial ritual where they burn their dead and rub the ashes into their wounds though this is not known to them until the first time members of their Subigo die in combat. Khanid Cyber Knights- Cyber Knights take the ideals off martial tradition to the next level. They are the cybernetically enhanced super soldiers drawn entirely from the cadres of the Amarrian elite. Cyber Knights traditionally employ very advanced prothetics and cybernetic enhancements to augment their already impressive capabilities and push them to super human levels. Cyber Knights can be broken down into two ideals. Modernists who specialise in the development of their skills with conventional and prototype weapons and Traditionalist who prefer to specialise in the martial ideals of the old Empire/Kingdom and are though to wield blade weapons and practice martial arts. Despite these two fields the indiputable fact remains that a Khanid Cyber Knight is arguably the most combat effective mortal unit available to both the Khanid Kingdom and the Amarr Empire. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:03:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Amarr: Templars, Paladins, Truthspeakers, Reclaimers. This one is a hard category because as established in previous threads - amarr are a hot mess linguistically (persian / abrahamic and latin influences) Gallente: Elysians, Furies, Trophimoi. I particularly enjoy furies because of how the gallente love that chaos oriented theme. Minmatar: Thane, Draugr, Vaettr, Einherjar. Maybe there could be a group named after a specific weapon they use because that's a common theme to the minmatar (similar to the franks and the francisca - their throwing axe). Caldari: (amusingly I'm having the most difficult one with this because of their super corporate ties). So uh... Kirjuun (means comrade in caldari language... no nepotism here >_>), Kugy+ì (Most powerful men in a court), Kamaitachi (wind-weasel - works for stealthy groups i guess and fits in with animal naming schemes)... and then Rasetsu. I am entirely biased here though and this is a messy category. Sticking kind of with the general toughness (that breakin brings up) I'd put Rasetsu units at the top: These guys were the ones that probably liked it just a bit "too much" to re-integrate back into civilian life after their military service period (think eldar exarchs, they cant separate their personality from "WAR" anymore). You only field these guys when you want everything dead. This is the general feeling you should get from them. The mere connotation of the name is that they are immortals of sheer hate and violence and they 'feed' off of death, trascending the karmic cycle of to become beings of death. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:07:00 - [12] - Quote Templar - These are the Immortal Cloned Soldiers we are familiar with in Dust 514. They stand as 2.5m tall (8' 2", eight feet and two inches) biological weapons of metal alloy enhanced exoskeletons wrapped in sheaths of nanite enhanced muscle, gifted with additional redundant organs, and grabted dulled sense of pain. Encased within the armoured mass of a Dropsuit these behemoths stand as the most danagerous infantry known to New Eden. That being said the Amarr Templars are something special in their own right and somewhat set apart from their own brethern. The original Templars were beholden only to the Imperial Family and most of their lore can be found in the Templar One novels. However in Dust 514 the Amarr Templars we know are something rather different. The following was drawn from the corporation description. The business interests of the secretive Emperor Family rarely come under close scrutiny but their involvement in the establishment of the Amarr Templars mercenary company could hardly escape the attention of the wider Empire. Keen to convey an image of austere piety and ruthless loyalty, the Templars are a favorite with those corporations wishing to carry out 'hostile takeovers' of facilities on Amarr planets. According to the corporation the following generations are beholden to the Imperial Family but act as mercenaries for powerful families throughout the Empire and are known for being ruthless in the pursuit of their goals. Beyond that there are many other groups of Immortal Status that can be found in game like the coincidentally apt Royal Ulhans of the Khanid Kingdom (which I was apparent a part of) that specialise in armoured warfare and are often hired by the Tash-Murkon Family (both of which I do), the Order of St Venefice who are Imperial Assassins, the Gladatorial Bragian Orders, and the Sarum aligned Red and Silver Hand. I do have a question CCP Rattati if you would indulge me. What is the purpose for this? Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:16:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I do have a question CCP Rattati if you would indulge me. What is the purpose for this? Seconded... Is this for a new novel? or are we naming new NPC groups? Are these for new suits? player ranks? wat.. because we've had some pretty long and lengthy discussions about this before. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:21:00 - [14] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: True Adamance wrote: I do have a question CCP Rattati if you would indulge me. What is the purpose for this? Seconded... Is this for a new novel? or are we naming new NPC groups? Are these for new suits? player ranks? wat.. because we've had some pretty long and lengthy discussions about this before. I suspect these are merely for the sake of player vanity, If this is the case I urge you CCP Rattati to reconsider. This is not the lore we need. Context and setting information is what Dust 514 needs not fancy meaningless titles that appeal to the ego and give the erroneous impression Dust 514 Immortal Clones are integrated into the Empires on an official level. EDIT- Also Malleus Speakers of Truth aren't soldiers are they? They're just judges and arbitrators who travel around the empire ensuring the Emperor/Empress justice is upheld. EDIT 2: There is also no simple means of comparison between the Amarr Empire and say a 40k Faction though the Empire might somewhat resemble the combined forces of the Imperium of Man, If Paladin's are your Astra Militarum then Paladin - Kameira - Cyber Knight - Templar Astra Militarum Guardsman - Militarum Tempestus/ Storm Troopers - Skittari Cohorts of the Omnissiah - Space Marines/Adeptus Astartes. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:36:00 - [15] - Quote ^They are primarily judges and arbitrators, but I see no reason that a person couldn't be promoted from them into the ranks of the immortal clone soldiers. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:56:00 - [16] - Quote MINMATAR Valklears are already established as an elite group of soldiers within the Republic, and I like the sound of the word. Also, for most cases, I don't like the sound of Norse names, so please don't go with something like "Einherjar." It has to be something snappy and easy to pronounce. The name Einherjar refers to warriors who have died in battle that get taken to Valhalla (I like this word), and I love the concept, but perhaps that meaning can be expressed in a different way, like Spears of Vahalla. Another possible good name is Fenrir Elite -- Fenrir is a chained wolf (would fit as a slavery metaphor) the wolf that kills Odin. GALLENTE Black Eagles. I would like to see more Black Eagle stuff besides scouts also. If not them, then how aboooout a name like Aegis Marines? AMARR Templars. Maybe those other groups people mentioned, like Paladins and Kameiras, but I would go with Templars. CALDARI I would suggest the Ishukone Watch Special Forces. There is also the Caldari Providence Directorate, but they're likely disbanded sense Tibus Heth lost power. I would suggest using something with words like "protectorate" or "directorate," because the sorts of words have a very Caldari feel to them. Another thing to remember is Caldari seem to like animal names, especially birds, so something "Condor Protectorate" would work if you want to make up something. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:17:00 - [17] - Quote Achievements in game with faction SKINS for completion with appropriate dropsuits/weapons? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 122	Posted - 2015.07.28 16:18:00 - [18] - Quote Amarr- Eunuchs Gaulente- Bongers Minmitar- Moon Barkers It is not that the Caldari are better, it is just that the other factions suck. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 122	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:15:00 - [19] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Amarr- Eunuchs Gaulente- Bongers Minmitar- Moon Barkers It is not that the Caldari are better, it is just that the other factions suck. I still like my first three and here is my Caldari ZA-SOG - Zainou Special Operations Group.."where it all began". "We will shake the heavens and they shall know our names" We are all "little nothings", (Anonymous nano-naught) Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Jammeh McJam XxAMBUSH FTWxX RUST415 322	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:43:00 - [20] - Quote Eclusiarchs, Chaplains, Honour guard, Centurian, Terminators, Vanguards, Crisis teams etc etc etc Warhammer 40k is great Steam name - MongoMongoLand PC master race

Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 485	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:34:00 - [21] - Quote Maybe if the rank of loyality unlock items and those items / dropsuits have the names proposed ? Example: rank 6 Gall Federation ... give you access to purchase Pretorian sentinel pre fited and exclusive skin. or Black Eagle II Scout... (ADV) ... level 8 - 10 gives you proto unique dropsuits / weapons. -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 316	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:02:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor The fact that you know W40k that well, impresses me. You could have put in Space Marine Arbiter or Space Marine Librarian before primarch, but I guess that is the custodian grouping. Also, inquisitor is missing in the human levels, but nerding out here. "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:09:00 - [23] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Maybe if the rank of loyality unlock items and those items / dropsuits have the names proposed ? Example: rank 6 Gall Federation ... give you access to purchase Pretorian sentinel pre fited and exclusive skin. or Black Eagle II Scout... (ADV) ... level 8 - 10 gives you proto unique dropsuits / weapons. The word Praetorian would fit more with the Amarr, they're essentially an emperor's elite guards. I do like the general idea, but seems lik it would be a redundancy given how the FW loyalty store offers SKINS. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:18:00 - [24] - Quote Balistyc Farshot wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor The fact that you know W40k that well, impresses me. You could have put in Space Marine Arbiter or Space Marine Librarian before primarch, but I guess that is the custodian grouping. Also, inquisitor is missing in the human levels, but nerding out here. Well 40k has a strange heirarchy of power where power comes from the top and trickles down. Emperor High lords of terra = Highest ranking ad mech on mars = Primarchs Highest ranking inquisitors = Officio Assassinorum heads = lords of terra = Space marine chapter masters (though they defer to most of the rest) = Slightly lower ranking ad mech of mars Highest ranking Imperial guard members = Highest ranking ecclesiarchy = Highest ranking rogue traders = people who govern constellations (ranked based on constellation) etc Planetary governors and stuff like lord commisars etc Highest ranking adeptus arbites etc It starts with the emperor, then goes terra & mars and then branches out and trickles down from there until you get to the common person. It's totally unlike the power structures of our world where it's built from the ground up (people -> leaders -> elected representatives etc). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:56:00 - [25] - Quote Bat-phoning the Eve Lore community. Give me a few hours. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 265	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:02:00 - [26] - Quote Emperor would be cool http://youtu.be/XDuSUDlK2dc ^ when I become emperor As for names do they have to be Eve related? I know nothing about Eve
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 607	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:12:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Imperial Guard,Praetorian Guard, Executive Corps ,Black Water ,Halliburton Tattoo Ones, THE ILLUSTRATED, Clansman Republican
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:15:00 - [28] - Quote Made a Trello to keep track of suggested terminology for each Faction. Voting is enabled, so be sure to place your votes on the ones you like! Bro from ISD Mercury (Lore team for Eve) said Don't get too focused on Norse terminology for Minmatar, they use storms and weapons too Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:27:00 - [29] - Quote I'm currently looking through a massive thread on PIE Inc internal forums of every reference to the Amarr Empire from the chronicles and lore put together by Samira Kernher, long may she be remembered as she who knows everything about the Amarr. The specific reference I am thinking of comes from the Stranded Series in part 3 or 4.....arguably the best for its introduction of 3 concepts. Sikan- A Minmatar Martial Art Chintaku - Affectionate term meaning 'My Love' and the name of the unit Balac was attached to before he was immortal..... The Kilm'ach - Amarrian term for 'Demons' or effectively 'The Demons of the Scriptures'. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:32:00 - [30] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Made a Trello to keep track of suggested terminology for each Faction. Voting is enabled, so be sure to place your votes on the ones you like! Bro from ISD Mercury (Lore team for Eve) said Don't get too focused on Norse terminology for Minmatar, they use storms and weapons too says "Board not found." EDIT: Also I'm glad someone realized that someone else realizes that the best way to name Minmatar things is not just throwing in a bunch of hard to pronounce Norse words, and that there are other inspirations for the names. Luther Mandrix wrote: Imperial Guard,Praetorian Guard, Executive Corps ,Black Water ,Halliburton Tattoo Ones, THE ILLUSTRATED, Clansman Republican The Amarr suggestions are alright, but everything else is bad. The setting is over 20,000 years in the future with societies that restarted from scratch, so using real world corporations like Black Water and Halliburton does not make sense. The Minmatar suggestions are very boring; it's like calling an Amarr elite force "Religious Ones." "Reublican" does not fit as a name for an elite type of soldier. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+

Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:44:00 - [31] - Quote A few suggestions on suggesting terminology: 1) It should be short and sweet so that it looks nice on the kill feed. 2) It shouldn't be too generic, as these are terms for the Elite. 3) It shouldn't be too specific. 4) It shouldn't be copying something pre-existing, like a Ship Name or a Lore Entity. 5) The factional cultures are more than the mythologies they draw names from. Also, fixed the Trello to be public. Thanks KAGE. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:50:00 - [32] - Quote Updated my suggestion post (here) Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:08:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Very nice thread starter and major kudos for the WH40K reference. Just a couple thoughts on this: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. 2) The Minmatar have some pretty good options on the table by dipping into animal (Ghost Wolves), forces of nature (Dust Devils), weapons (Shield Chief, Dagger Captain, etc), or specific tribal pieces (Thukker Long Hunter, Brutor Khan). You could mix in a bit of Viking-esqe titles such as "Jarl" but i recommend keeping it a little bit less culturally specific (more on this in a sec). 3) The Gallante start getting a little thin once you get past the Black Eagles if you are going pure lore. I think you may want to branch out with some other titles that hit the vibe of the Gallante that evoke the glam democratic facade they have. How about something like Icon, Warbird, Patriot, or Liberator. 4) Finally the Caldari - I think arguably the most difficult since folks drive to very obscure and difficult to understand Fino-Nipponese mish mashes. My opinion is that you need to keep this less culturally specific to our viewpoint and again go more for the vibe. As noted by others rarely do the Caldari ships have these type of monikers so why should we? Some examples for Caldari Mercs: Operative, Privateer, Raptor Commander, Longstrike Specialist, Veteran Contractor. Again...this is my opinion and i'm quite keen to help out with this. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:20:00 - [34] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:24:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. The Amarr could use the Sefrim (Sef singular). I get the sense they're inspired by seraphs anyway. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:25:00 - [36] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. The Amarr could use the Sefrim (Sef singular). I get the sense they're inspired by seraphs anyway. That as you well know would be blasphemy. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 370	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:33:00 - [37] - Quote https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii For the Minmatar: Sicarii Real life: they were Assassins Creed. Like... No joke. Read it. Thank you! ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:41:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:46:00 - [39] - Quote The lack of good Caldari names on the trello compels me to put forward some: State Enforcers Corporate Protectors Enforcement Directorate Kajiuu-Vaaka Elite (made up the word Kajiuu-Vaaka, but could be written in the lore as the name of the corporation's founder) Conglomerated Defense Force Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 21:56:00 - [40] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:03:00 - [41] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: says "Board not found." EDIT: Also I'm glad that someone else realizes that the best way to name Minmatar things is not just throwing in a bunch of hard to pronounce Norse words, and that there are other inspirations for the names. Hey, I realise that. I'm just inclined towards some of those things, I'm aware of their associations with weapons & weather but lacking in suggestions I feel are as good as others. A "musketeer" is one of the styles of thing that could be conceivably be associated with the minmatar... Maybe fusileer or something. Or some other similar type stuff. Maybe 'creating' a matari style name for nova knives and referring to a scout by it would work. I'm also not sure how to approach the 'weather" angle, maybe a reference to volcano's or something? tectonic movement? Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Just a couple thoughts on this: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. 2) The Minmatar have some pretty good options on the table by dipping into animal (Ghost Wolves), forces of nature (Dust Devils), weapons (Shield Chief, Dagger Captain, etc), or specific tribal pieces (Thukker Long Hunter, Brutor Khan). You could mix in a bit of Viking-esqe titles such as "Jarl" but i recommend keeping it a little bit less culturally specific (more on this in a sec). 3) The Gallante start getting a little thin once you get past the Black Eagles if you are going pure lore. I think you may want to branch out with some other titles that hit the vibe of the Gallante that evoke the glam democratic facade they have. How about something like Icon, Warbird, Patriot, or Liberator. 4) Finally the Caldari - I think arguably the most difficult since folks drive to very obscure and difficult to understand Fino-Nipponese mish mashes. My opinion is that you need to keep this less culturally specific to our viewpoint and again go more for the vibe. As noted by others rarely do the Caldari ships have these type of monikers so why should we? Some examples for Caldari Mercs: Operative, Privateer, Raptor Commander, Longstrike Specialist, Veteran Contractor. Again...this is my opinion and i'm quite keen to help out with this. 1) Lots of agreement here. 2) Minmatar are also quite good 3) There's a HUGE wealth of greek/roman inspired names to draw from. 4) Agreed. I am entirely willing to concede that I jump to more obscure stuff, but if you look at caldari NPC ships you'll see why ('state shurikens, state wakizashi, etc, here's a list, frig, destroyer, cruiser, battlecruiser, battleship). It might not have been entirely transparent and I apologize for that, but I was operating based on previously established information. Now I COULD get behind "Longstrike specialist" though, because I had actually named this character after a T'au from wh40k called "longstrike" as one of his titles - he was a tank user that destroyed a whole imperial tank batallion & a titan solo, after losing his bonded family. So titles based on deed could work well. Aeon Amadi wrote: A few suggestions on suggesting terminology: 1) It should be short and sweet so that it looks nice on the kill feed. 2) It shouldn't be too generic, as these are terms for the Elite. 3) It shouldn't be too specific. 4) It shouldn't be copying something pre-existing, like a Ship Name or a Lore Entity. 5) The factional cultures are more than the mythologies they draw names from. Also, fixed the Trello to be public. Thanks KAGE. Largely agreed on most points. I have a hardon for mythologies though and they work for some cultures. I don't think anything should be dismissed out of hand (which kind of makes me upset for the voting system but w/e). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:03:00 - [42] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. I'm willing to write lore and context if CCP is willing to make it official (which likely won't happen). Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 370	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:04:00 - [43] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. Although yes I submitted an idea I do agree way more then you know now if only our timezones agreed better brother. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:04:00 - [44] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. Agreeeeeed. I'd rather avoid another flamewar because certain people have 'badwrongfun' and like 'badwrongthings'. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:09:00 - [45] - Quote Caldari: Goryo Enforcers. A goryo is a type of japaese vengeful ghost, usually noble, and have died for a cause. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:12:00 - [46] - Quote Aeon - will you add us to the Trello or do you just want succinct lists by faction in this thread and you add them? "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:20:00 - [47] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into. I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. Ok...if there is no canon lore to cover the Rattati's question - why not submit arbitrary names. You'll note in the OP he clearly is looking for titles of mercenaries and war band leaders that invoke certain connotations and many of the ones folks are throwing on the table (myself included) are perhaps more FW specific. Titles are not limited to just the paper thin slices of lore that address ground forces in New Eden. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:22:00 - [48] - Quote ^You can create lore blurbs for your own submissions Jaysyn. I think that's a somewhat reasonable way to do it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:33:00 - [49] - Quote Agreed, Mina. I have no issue with it and if a blurb need to be created I don't mind taking a shot. That said, I honestly think we collectively overthink and dissect it with too fine a scalpel every time Rattati gives us an opening on these types of things. I think Aeon's rules on his proposed Trello are fairly practical and work well. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:44:00 - [50] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Agreed, Mina. I have no issue with it and if a blurb need to be created I don't mind taking a shot. That said, I honestly think we collectively overthink and dissect it with too fine a scalpel every time Rattati gives us an opening on these types of things. I think Aeon's rules on his proposed Trello are fairly practical and work well. For the most part, I agree. but I'm already pretty butthurt over stuff like "grenadier, scout sniper, elite" and other things being present largely because I feel like they lack impact. While I also mostly agree that these cultures are more than just their respective mythologies that is an excellent place to start especially if you want to learn who these groups are in terms of their linguistics and cultural inspirations, I almost feel like that suggestion is pretty dismissive and were it to be abided by we'd end up seeing some pretty bland and generic things (at least from my perspective). I mean the amarr are more than just "OMG ROME" **, but every time lists come up we get "PALADIN INQUISITOR PRAETORIAN" etc which barely scratches the surface and often entirely misrepresents the influences of what the amarr are. As galm succintly summed up in one of the previous threads - the amarr pulled a Charlemagne and tried to emulate roman stability by giving everything roman names, despite not having many actual roman influences to their culture. For anyone wanting a deeper look, I'd recommend looking up the other empires NPC ship names (can be found without much work from my caldari state npc ship names links) to try and get a bit more 'accuracy' with things. In short I don't really want to end up with caricaturized depictions of the empires (even though I somewhat fall prey to doing it myself with the caldari) because that makes me sad. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.

benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 370	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:45:00 - [51] - Quote puts on tinfoil Anyone think he is be think tanking another Tony Gonzalez project to introduce Gunjack for the MTAC names? removes tinfoil puts on used car salesman toupee Read my post^ on the Sicarii and Lucifarii! removes used car salesman toupee ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.28 22:50:00 - [52] - Quote The above post by MIna is how I feel on the matter. I apologise to you Jaysyn.... was rather abrupt with you. Once again I'll admit it is passion for the subject matter masquerading as something else. I don't care about much in this game any more but the lore is one thing I'd hate to see iterated upon poorly. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 984	Posted - 2015.07.28 23:20:00 - [53] - Quote Interesting. Guess this sort of thing hasn't been fleshed out all that much. Here's a general concept the titles should correspond to: Amarr: Catholic church (Roman and/or Eastern Orthodox). I feel "Molester" or "Mobster" should be in there somewhere. Caldari: Business titles mixed with military titles. Chiefs, deputy chiefs, Associates etc. "Profiteers", "Enrons"? Gallente: French military titles such a Fusiliers, Grenadiers etc; maybe "Depraved", "Entitled", "Degenerate" or "Libertine" thrown in there. Ratatouille? http://www.videobash.com/video_show/key-amp-peele-ratatouille-2967931 Minmatar: Tribal culture titles or failing that, gangland or prison titles. "Crips", "Bloods"', "East Coast/West Coast", "Hooligans", "Cretins", "Unwashed". "Homeless", "Vagrants"? MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 461	Posted - 2015.07.28 23:25:00 - [54] - Quote I'm feeling yakuza style titles for caldari. Y'know, since we already went there. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Chosokabe Ite Shields Of The State 91	Posted - 2015.07.29 00:19:00 - [55] - Quote Amarr: The Left Hand. Just tried to make it sound devine. Thought it would sound intimidating too. Gallente: The (blank) Legion. I got the Legion idea from the French Foreign Legion, and since the Federation has French roots, I thought it'd work. Couldn't come up with a full name though. Minmatar: The Minmatar words that mean "The Enemy". I got this idea from the Apache tribe. The name comes from the word Apachu which means "the enemy". Caldari: The State Retainers. This one I got from Japanese history, referencing retainers feudal lords would keep around him for protection. The idea is each megacorp would put their best immortal soldiers into one force to sever as "retainers" for them all.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 00:35:00 - [56] - Quote Chosokabe Ite wrote: Amarr: The Left Hand. Just tried to make it sound devine. Thought it would sound intimidating too. Gallente: The (blank) Legion. I got the Legion idea from the French Foreign Legion, and since the Federation has French roots, I thought it'd work. Couldn't come up with a full name though. Minmatar: The Minmatar words that mean "The Enemy". I got this idea from the Apache tribe. The name comes from the word Apachu which means "the enemy". Caldari: The State Retainers. This one I got from Japanese history, referencing retainers feudal lords would keep around him for protection. The idea is each megacorp would put their best immortal soldiers into one force to sever as "retainers" for them all. (The) Kilm'ach as I mentioned before is actually a Minmatar word use to refer to the Demon's the Faithful Amarr fear. Not an ideal rank especially because it is attributed to a mortal Minmatar special operations unit but it's ripped right out of the Stranded Series. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2015.07.29 00:56:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The above post by MIna is how I feel on the matter. I apologise to you Jaysyn.... was rather abrupt with you. Once again I'll admit it is passion for the subject matter masquerading as something else. I don't care about much in this game any more but the lore is one thing I'd hate to see iterated upon poorly. No worries - I certainly appreciate the passion for the subject and no need for you and I to joust on something we both want to see done well. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.29 01:43:00 - [58] - Quote So is this a FW rank thread? "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Chosokabe Ite Shields Of The State 91	Posted - 2015.07.29 02:26:00 - [59] - Quote Changed my ideas, I thought we were thinking up names for special forces divisions at first.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 432	Posted - 2015.07.29 04:42:00 - [60] - Quote Mina! Grabs Mina's face Look at me Mina. You and I need to work together to make the most badass Caldari special operatives for Lore support that we can imagine. Though admittedly the idea of a specific Caldari task force for the entire state is a bit troublesome, since individual companies all have their own individual paramilitary organizations all serving individual goals. Originally the closest thing the Caldari had were the Templis Dragonaurs, who acted as highly skilled insurgents and commandos for the Caldari Expeditionary Forces. They did everything from training to espionage, and the collapse of the Provost regime forced most of them out of office and likely left a massive power vacuum in the state for a unified inter-corporate task force to provide elite operatives. Oddly enough, I the way I see it this Task Force would function more like a UN coalition type force where you see people drafted from the Ishukone Watch, Home Guard, and other private military companies to aid in an advisory capacity for the State Peacekeepers. After the Providence Directorate finally fell, I doubt anyone in the State would be particularly happy with a unified government trying to consolidate power into a join military agency like the Caldari Navy. It would also serve to make Caldari special operatives characteristically unique from any other potential tier one operatives in the other Empires. That being said, the exact naming of this sort of agency would be tricky but I have a few suggestions on how to start. First is the most obvious: Task Force ____________ <---- Insert Psuedo Finn name here It's everything right there on the tin, an elite joint task force built out of the best operatives from different corporate entities. Alternatively: __________ Pathfinders Besides the connection it bares to the elite Canadian Pathfinders (who are just plain badass even if there isn't a direct connection to the Caldari) I really like the implications it has to continuing the legacy of the Caldari Expeditionary Forces before they were reformed into the State Peacekeepers. On the surface, the Pathfinders could be shock troops ready to deploy in small teams at a moments notice to secure an area of the Peacekeepers. On the other hand, this could just be a front for 'go into an area and train and arm insurgents so we have a reason to go in and keep the peace.' There are plenty of ways you could spin it depending on your opinion of the Caldari. ___________ Highlanders Though it isn't exactly stated, I've personally always felt a deep connection existed between the Caldari history and that of the Scottish. This title would also serve as a reference to the success of Operation Highlander as a sort of tongue-in-cheek reminder never to fail in the defense of a Caldari planet ever again. Personally I'm a fan of: Task Force Perkele (Perkele was the Finn god of thunder, which highlights the role of shock troops to these forces.) Task Force Ookami (The japanese world for wolf, which highlights traditional caldari wolfpack tactics.) Suribachi Pathfinders / Suribachi Highlanders (In honor of the battle of Iwo Jima) Simo Pathfinders (In honor of the legendary Winter War sniper nicknamed 'White Death' by the invading Red Army) Alternatively we have the names of special forces from the nations that the Caldari were born from. These include: The Teishin Shudan commandos of imperial Japan. Or alternative the J+ñ+ñk+ñrirykmentti of the Utti Jaeger Regiment, but suffice to say this is a mouth full so it might be best to settle for simply 'Jaegers' which still sounds pretty badass to me. Really any combination of these ideas would make me happy. The ethnic background of the Caldari is something really important to me, and I would be overjoyed if CCP would take these ideas into consideration when forming this living world that we all enjoy. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--

Robert Conway Concordiat Mercenaries 478	Posted - 2015.07.29 06:53:00 - [61] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Chosokabe Ite wrote: Amarr: The Left Hand. Just tried to make it sound devine. Thought it would sound intimidating too. Gallente: The (blank) Legion. I got the Legion idea from the French Foreign Legion, and since the Federation has French roots, I thought it'd work. Couldn't come up with a full name though. Minmatar: The Minmatar words that mean "The Enemy". I got this idea from the Apache tribe. The name comes from the word Apachu which means "the enemy". Caldari: The State Retainers. This one I got from Japanese history, referencing retainers feudal lords would keep around him for protection. The idea is each megacorp would put their best immortal soldiers into one force to sever as "retainers" for them all. (The) Kilm'ach as I mentioned before is actually a Minmatar word use to refer to the Demon's the Faithful Amarr fear. Not an ideal rank especially because it is attributed to a mortal Minmatar special operations unit but it's ripped right out of the Stranded Series. The UNFINISHED Stranded Series, might I add. Something a few of us would like to see finished someday... Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
Robert Conway Concordiat Mercenaries 478	Posted - 2015.07.29 07:13:00 - [62] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Mina! Grabs Mina's face Look at me Mina. You and I need to work together to make the most badass Caldari special operatives for Lore support that we can imagine. Though admittedly the idea of a specific Caldari task force for the entire state is a bit troublesome, since individual companies all have their own individual paramilitary organizations all serving individual goals. Originally the closest thing the Caldari had were the Templis Dragonaurs, who acted as highly skilled insurgents and commandos for the Caldari Expeditionary Forces. They did everything from training to espionage, and the collapse of the Provost regime forced most of them out of office and likely left a massive power vacuum in the state for a unified inter-corporate task force to provide elite operatives. Oddly enough, I the way I see it this Task Force would function more like a UN coalition type force where you see people drafted from the Ishukone Watch, Home Guard, and other private military companies to aid in an advisory capacity for the State Peacekeepers. After the Providence Directorate finally fell, I doubt anyone in the State would be particularly happy with a unified government trying to consolidate power into a join military agency like the Caldari Navy. It would also serve to make Caldari special operatives characteristically unique from any other potential tier one operatives in the other Empires. That being said, the exact naming of this sort of agency would be tricky but I have a few suggestions on how to start. First is the most obvious: Task Force ____________ <---- Insert Psuedo Finn name here It's everything right there on the tin, an elite joint task force built out of the best operatives from different corporate entities. Alternatively: __________ Pathfinders Besides the connection it bares to the elite Canadian Pathfinders (who are just plain badass even if there isn't a direct connection to the Caldari) I really like the implications it has to continuing the legacy of the Caldari Expeditionary Forces before they were reformed into the State Peacekeepers. On the surface, the Pathfinders could be shock troops ready to deploy in small teams at a moments notice to secure an area of the Peacekeepers. On the other hand, this could just be a front for 'go into an area and train and arm insurgents so we have a reason to go in and keep the peace.' There are plenty of ways you could spin it depending on your opinion of the Caldari. ___________ Highlanders Though it isn't exactly stated, I've personally always felt a deep connection existed between the Caldari history and that of the Scottish. This title would also serve as a reference to the success of Operation Highlander as a sort of tongue-in-cheek reminder never to fail in the defense of a Caldari planet ever again. Personally I'm a fan of: Task Force Perkele (Perkele was the Finn god of thunder, which highlights the role of shock troops to these forces.) Task Force Ookami (The japanese world for wolf, which highlights traditional caldari wolfpack tactics.) Suribachi Pathfinders / Suribachi Highlanders (In honor of the battle of Iwo Jima) Goryo Highlanders (I'm gonna side with Jerry. I like the term Goryo, but I have mix feelings about calling an elite strike force simple 'enforcers') Simo Pathfinders (In honor of the legendary Winter War sniper nicknamed 'White Death' by the invading Red Army) Alternatively we have the names of special forces from the nations that the Caldari were born from. These include: The Teishin Shudan commandos of imperial Japan. Or alternative the J+ñ+ñk+ñrirykmentti of the Utti Jaeger Regiment, but suffice to say this is a mouth full so it might be best to settle for simply 'Jaegers' which still sounds pretty badass to me. Really any combination of these ideas would make me happy. The ethnic background of the Caldari is something really important to me, and I would be overjoyed if CCP would take these ideas into consideration when forming this living world that we all enjoy. I'm not a Caldari loyalist, but anything to do with creating lore excites me. I agree with many of your point. I think a good analogy could be this. Only in a desperate time of war did the United States ever have a Five Star General. In service today, there are only Four Star Generals. So only in great times of need could the Mega corporations come together and form a centralist group of elites to repel the threat. Once the threat is gone, the group would disband until called upon again, thus giving the power back to the mega corporations. Am i kind of getting the jist of your idea? Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 435	Posted - 2015.07.29 08:21:00 - [63] - Quote Not really, but that is one argument. My mindset for the whole idea of an intercorperate task force is that ultimately the Peacekeepers are still in need of specialized agents to replace the void left by the removal of the Templis and the Caldari Expeditionary Forces, but no one wants a centralized government because the last time that happened Heth ran the State into the ground. Therefore, instead of a unified agency loyal only to the business tribunal and the Providence Directorate it's more like a loose coalition of soldiers who all represent the interests of their own corporation coming together to reach common goals. An important thing to remember is that the Caldari megacorperations are the spiritual successor to the Raata Empire, which was extremely similar to a Japanese daimyo but run under meritocratic rulers. Just like how different groups of samurai would join forces if Japan was ever threatened, so too would the megacorperations. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 08:27:00 - [64] - Quote True Adamance wrote: And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results. Honestly, even though I'm adding all the suggested terminology I can find in this thread, I'm doing so begrudgingly and only because I know that someone would moan. Some of the suggestions are just awful. KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I'm willing to write lore and context if CCP is willing to make it official (which likely won't happen).[/quote] Even ISD Mercury doesn't get that luxury and they have to go through an insanely rigorous application process concerning the lore just to get their white tags. We're talking like cryptic stuff like, "What was the name of the person who was tortured to death by three Gallentean Government officials?" and "Why was the Wartime Powers Act instituted in the Federation?" ISD Mercury works almost exclusively on the wiki and writes short World News articles which still have to go through CCP for editing before being officially posted. The only people who can write big-time lore like Chronicles and what not is CCP and CCP alone. Even still, it would be incredibly difficult to get any official lore done at all right now. It is public information that there is a strong drive to undo all the damage to the Lore that was caused by Tony Gonsalez (the author behind Empyrean Age and Templar One) and the lore team is working adamantly to retcon or nyx a lot of the contradictory lore stuff. For instance the Terran Superweapon which Empyress Jamyl used to knock out an entire Republic Elder Fleet with the push of a button that she got from cloaked Terran ship wrecks that were floating around the New Eden gate that no-one had previously discovered because #reasons. The same Terran Superweapon that was fueled by the mysterious Isogen-5 which when her ship exploded because the Thukkers were chasing the Blood Raiders who were chasing a Scientific Vessel that found the Amarr Flagship being protected by Rogue Drones who were sentient and aware of their presence ultimately coalescing to the destruction of the ship that thereby caused seven or eight entire -STARS- to go super nova for no **ing reason which then caused the Seyllin Incident and hundreds if not thousands of wormholes to open up revealing the Sleepers who guarded all sort of awesome, OP as technology that could be used to make T3 Cruisers BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY the infantry clone technology that we use in Dust 514 today that originally couldn't be reverse engineered so all four factions simultaneously (with the help of capsuleers) committed mass genocide on the Sleepers to get their implants through their own immortal infantry projects that ticked the Sleepers off and made them start doing -THE EXACT SAME THING TO US- to make the Drifters............................... You see where this is going? One stupid Super Weapon written into the lore by TonyG did all of that. Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Aeon - will you add us to the Trello or do you just want succinct lists by faction in this thread and you add them? I'm hesitant to add anyone else because we already have a boat-load of suggested terminology and I don't want to show favoritism by allowing someone free reign over the Trello. I'm already considering adding additional labels or outright nyxxing some suggested terms due to potential problems with some of the suggestions as it is. For instance, there are a few that clearly do not consider suggestion number 1, and if these suggested terms are to be used for Kill Feed ranks then it'll look something like this: Aeon Amadi [Special Operations Capable] (Duvolle Assault Rifle) Jaysyn Larrisen** There are a few that borrow from existing lore or in-game assets, which would anger a lot of the people who delve into the Lore. For instance, I've seen Kameira proposed a few times in this thread and the reason I won't add them is because Kameiras, while Amarrian elite infantry, are almost exclusively Minmatar. They are trained from birth to become unthinking super soldiers that will off themselves at the first opportunity if they catch themselves beginning to question the scriptures. So adding that as a suggestion assumes that any mercenary who got to the highest rank of FW is of that same heritage - which is total bupkis. But further more it a pre-existing lore entity AND an actual in-game entity as there is an NPC Corporation called Kameira Lodge. Which is already sketchy in and of itself if you read the description. We also have a few that (even I suggested) are far too specific, such as Varyag for the Minmatar Republic. Which, if you do a little research you'll find that Varyag was the name given by the Greeks to the mercenaries that are the descendants of the Vikings. They were heavy shock troops that excelled in combat. I figured the name was fitting but when I suggested it to the guys from ISD Mercury they stated that it was very very specific and culturally infused, which is the problem with a LOT of Caldari suggestions. That sort of thing you have to be careful about because the real life culture could look at that and get really, REALLY aggravated if it's translated wrong. One dude in the Slack channel actually proposed 'Kamikaze' because it meant 'divine wind' but that isn't what it means to most if not all Americans, so I neglected to add it for obvious reasons. I've run out of room to mention the rest. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 435	Posted - 2015.07.29 08:45:00 - [65] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: That sort of thing you have to be careful about because the real life culture could look at that and get really, REALLY aggravated if it's translated wrong. One dude in the Slack channel actually proposed 'Kamikaze' because it meant 'divine wind' but that isn't what it means to most if not all Americans, so I neglected to add it for obvious reasons. I've run out of room to mention the rest. I am American, my father was in the Navy, I am a cadet in the armed forces, and I spent four years of my life working in a Naval Aviation museum in Pearl Harbor with veterans of the Pacific theater and I wouldn't give a damn if you named something 'Kamikaze' because I understand the cultural significance behind what the divine wind meant to the Japanese before an imperialist government decided to throw teenagers in airplanes at aircraft carriers. Not to mention the fact that the suicidal implications would have altered massively in the thousands of years between WWII and the formation of the Caldari State. Just sayin'. Also, how are you in contact with Mercury? I've never heard of a DUST member being affiliated or having contact with the ISD or Mercury in the past, so color me skeptical. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:32:00 - [66] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: That sort of thing you have to be careful about because the real life culture could look at that and get really, REALLY aggravated if it's translated wrong. One dude in the Slack channel actually proposed 'Kamikaze' because it meant 'divine wind' but that isn't what it means to most if not all Americans, so I neglected to add it for obvious reasons. I've run out of room to mention the rest. I am American, my father was in the Navy, I am a cadet in the armed forces, and I spent four years of my life working in a Naval Aviation museum in Pearl Harbor with veterans of the Pacific theater and I wouldn't give a damn if you named something 'Kamikaze' because I understand the cultural significance behind what the divine wind meant to the Japanese before an imperialist government decided to throw teenagers in airplanes at aircraft carriers. Not to mention the fact that the suicidal implications would have altered massively in the thousands of years between WWII and the formation of the Caldari State. Just sayin'. Also, how are you in contact with Mercury? I've never heard of a DUST member being affiliated or having contact with the ISD or Mercury in the past, so color me skeptical. You might not but others might and I think it's generally assumed to be in poor taste either way. I'm in contact with Mercury because I've played Eve Online for nine years, actually -applied- to be with Mercury a while back, talked with them at Fanfest, still talk with them on Slack/Twitter, etc. Hope that addresses your skepticism. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:45:00 - [67] - Quote So within 4 pages we've come to the same thing we have in all previous threads. No one can agree on things. My suggestions (at least in regards to caldari it seems) are too specific and 'culturally charged' (which I will agree to an extent on both), but I wont stand for other suggestions because I find them to be trite, bland, insipid or otherwise dumb. You may not have been referring to me aeon, but it certainly feels like it, and yeah I have to point back to those lists of NPC ships or even in game stuff like "Onikanabo brigade" (a dust side cal npc corp). Others are inaccurate as hell, but people LOEV them because they get to be Mr. Exclusiarch Inquisitor Paladin standing on their end of the battlefield screaming "REDEEM THEM WITH SWORD AND FIRE!!!!". It is incredibly annoying that no one ever agrees on things in regards to this, largely because there's little more strictly defining criteria. Really wanting to echo True here and go "this is something I don't want done if we can't do it right or fairly" and wash my hands of it but silencing my own voice by walking away in frustration accomplishes nothing. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:48:00 - [68] - Quote You are mostly thinking some kind of formal FW titles so I will clarify, but a few were on the right track. It was my question so I am to blame. I am thinking more royal guard, or special forces types of secret undercover groups, or covert mercs in the employ of the Factions. Black Water and Halliburton are much closer to what I am thinking. Also, I am thinking in parallel to existing or old style of behind the scenes protectors like the Swiss guard or Emperor's Custodians, even the Three Musqueteers or the French Foreign Legion. There is also the legend of the Varangians, who were swedish vikings forming the Bodyguard of the Byzantine Emperors in Constantinople. Then of course Seals (Black Eagles) , Rangers *could be (Pathfinders). I am not sure where I will end up using it, but I am curious whether we have this in New Eden lore, and what is our leeway. One Mercenary could worm himself into the Empress's bodyguard, there is nothing that says that couldnt happen, even if its not an achievable goal for every mercenary. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:50:00 - [69] - Quote ^So essentially we're naming groups rather than more individual/personal titles. Stuff like maroons, musketeers, franks (after their francisca's) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:53:00 - [70] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: ^So essentially we're naming groups rather than more individual/personal titles. Stuff like maroons, musketeers, franks (after their francisca's) Precisely "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:54:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: You are mostly thinking some kind of formal FW titles so I will clarify, but a few were on the right track. It was my question so I am to blame. I am thinking more royal guard, or special forces types of secret undercover groups, or covert mercs in the employ of the Factions. Black Water and Halliburton are much closer to what I am thinking. Also, I am thinking in parallel to existing or old style of behind the scenes protectors like the Swiss guard or Emperor's Custodians, even the Three Musqueteers or the French Foreign Legion. There is also the legend of the Varangians, who were swedish vikings forming the Bodyguard of the Byzantine Emperors in Constantinople. Then of course Seals (Black Eagles) , Rangers could be (Pathfinders). I am not sure where I will end up using it, but I am curious whether we have this in New Eden lore, and what is our leeway. One Mercenary could worm himself into the Empress's bodyguard, there is nothing that says that couldnt happen, even if its not an achievable goal for every mercenary. Very interesting implications. But yeah, as I suggested earlier, Varyag (another word for Varangian) would probably be really good for that use then. One thing I will mention about the Black Eagles is that they're actually -above- the SEALs in a degree because the Black Eagles are for Black Ops sort of stuff. Whereas the SEALs are meant for special operations that you might not hear about unless it's some prolific stuff (like the Osama Bin Laden takedown) Black Ops is more along the lines of stuff you -will never hear about- because of the implications involved, such as internal assassinations and what not. They're super shady and especially terrifying. Quote:* They make you watch it all, man. They make you watch through the eyes of the person you killed. It's all for show, really, but they do it so well. I saw the guy come in, brush his teeth, kiss his son good night... then I felt my bullet go into his skull just seconds after it shattered the window. Back when I'd shot him, you know, I didn't know anything... all I saw was a man leaning down in the spot where I'd been told he would be, then I squeezed the trigger, twice to make sure, and got the hell out of there. But they had to make me relive it all through this bullshit virtual scenario. They want you to know that you're gonna be called upon to kill innocent people, good people, Federation people, and that you have to be comfortable with doing it because it serves the greater good. Whatever the **** that's even supposed to mean. GÇöAudio transcript from "Agent Mornay," alleged Black Eagle defector Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Regnier Feros Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 565	Posted - 2015.07.29 10:31:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: ^So essentially we're naming groups rather than more individual/personal titles. Stuff like maroons, musketeers, franks (after their francisca's) Precisely What's the true purpose of this thread? ZariaOwnsWhips
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 122	Posted - 2015.07.29 10:32:00 - [73] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: You are mostly thinking some kind of formal FW titles so I will clarify, but a few were on the right track. It was my question so I am to blame. I am thinking more royal guard, or special forces types of secret undercover groups, or covert mercs in the employ of the Factions. Black Water and Halliburton are much closer to what I am thinking. Also, I am thinking in parallel to existing or old style of behind the scenes protectors like the Swiss guard or Emperor's Custodians, even the Three Musqueteers or the French Foreign Legion. There is also the legend of the Varangians, who were swedish vikings forming the Bodyguard of the Byzantine Emperors in Constantinople. Then of course Seals (Black Eagles) , Rangers *could be (Pathfinders). I am not sure where I will end up using it, but I am curious whether we have this in New Eden lore, and what is our leeway. One Mercenary could worm himself into the Empress's bodyguard, there is nothing that says that couldnt happen, even if its not an achievable goal for every mercenary. Blackwater is now Academie, but at one time known as Xe. I suggested ZA, which is a bio-engineering Eve corp stock ticker, followed by SOG, or even STG. its is also a place holder for logical reasoning to drones and their lore. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 11:08:00 - [74] - Quote Honestly, CCP Rattati, you should probably hit up ISD Mercury - I'm sure they'd love the opportunity to offer up their expertise for something like this. Rather than the Dust 514 community spitballing =P Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 11:24:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Mercenary could worm himself into the Empress's bodyguard, there is nothing that says that couldnt happen, even if its not an achievable goal for every mercenary. FEW and only very loyal few could potentially have the honor of doing so but so long as this is a 'special unit' Dust 514 players can join you are potentially insinuating hundred of us have a direct line to the Empress.....something capsuleer's have not ever even had. I'm not sure I can get behind a suitable reason for the Dust 514 cloned soldier to personally protect the Empress or an Heir themselves but I can get behind the next best thing. Holders. Essentially the highest ranking noble in each family or branch of the family given the authority to rule over continents, worlds, and entire slave populations. While there is nothing to say it 'couldn't happen' there is also nothing to suggest it likely would especially when you could make Immortal Clones of say indoctrinated Kameira unit who have superior discipline and loyalty to the throne than a Dust merc. Still I'll take the notions to PIE and come back with some responses from them. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 11:48:00 - [76] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: One Mercenary could worm himself into the Empress's bodyguard, there is nothing that says that couldnt happen, even if its not an achievable goal for every mercenary. Perhaps though if this presents an attainable rank or joinable sect in Dust 514 then you are potentially insinuating that hundred of individual cloned soldiers might be able to attain this rank. As you say while there is no reason to state unequivocally that this is impossible to attain there is also no reason to suspect it is possible. More than likely if the Empress required such soldiers as her personal guard then candidates would be drawn from regiments under the direct mandate of the Emperor Family or even Kameiras all of whom would be significantly more disciplined, zealously dogmatic, and utterly loyal. Also giving Dust 514 players a direct line to the Empress in terms of in game lore I think would be met rather poorly by our Capsuleer parallels. In this instance I suggest you look two levels down. Neither the Empress nor the Heirs would likely be caught dead with out kind at their sides though Holders, the High Nobility of the Empire might certainly call upon us for protection and other such activities That being said I'll still take this question back to PIE Inc and Samira, She Who Knows Ten-Thousand Things and see how they both feel about the concept and what they can dig up. Samira is on Slack right now, I'll throw a link to your post at her. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 435	Posted - 2015.07.29 20:00:00 - [77] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Honestly, CCP Rattati, you should probably hit up ISD Mercury - I'm sure they'd love the opportunity to offer up their expertise for something like this. Rather than the Dust 514 community spitballing =P Or we could, you know, actually place stock into what some of our community members are saying here instead of passing the buck off to a Mercury team that (as far as I can tell) doesn't give a damn about the DUST 514 community? I mean... Yes, Mercury should be kept in the loop and our suggestions should be confirmed by them before some sort of canon implementation into lore. Especially since, I suspect, established lore like this would make an excellent opportunity for a 'Methods of Torture' type lore series that delves into different special forces teams across New Eden. But I think passing the buck off to them is just lame when we already have a lot of people here who legitimately care and have put forward good suggestions to represent their Empire. Also, was it not obvious to you guys that this wasn't anything like a FW title threadt? The way I interpenetrated it from the start is that this would all just be in the way of story, with a possible implementation in the future for rank events like Mordu's Trials or maybe some sort of mention in The Scope. Which means all this butthurt 'it's too convoluted' arguments against some people's suggestions is all bull, so can everyone stop being so obstinate and actually try to get something done here? That being said, we don't call it the Caldari Kaigun, we all it the Caldari Navy. (Unless you're writing in Napanii.) As much as I love love love remaining lore accurate, I'd be perfectly happy with settling for something like the Caldari Pathfinders / Caldari Jaegers. I'd be very happy in fact. Incredibly happy. Overjoyed would be an accurate term. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 20:08:00 - [78] - Quote ^I had my suspicions about if we were doing something like naming groups of elites or if we were doing something like re-hashing titles. But yeah, being as this is more akin to naming 40k chapters, aspect shrines, officio assassinorum, guard regiments, farsight enclaves, dark eldar cabals and the like I think that we could end up with some more agreement in areas. We won't need to out of hand dismiss the more 'flavorful' things because we have stuff like "Onikanabo brigade" already. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:05:00 - [79] - Quote Empress Sworn? Executive Security? Council Huntsmen? TALON? CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:18:00 - [80] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Empress Sworn? Executive Security? Council Huntsmen? TALON? For the Minmatar would there been an official lore to draw from that could see the root of 'true' from Sanmatar meshed with 'hunter' or 'huntsmen'. Sanmatar means 'true Matar' but is a title given to the sole leader of the Minmatar and was previously a defunct title until Maleatu Shakor reinstated it. And just for those who play FFXIV........ Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sultan Sworn? Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:28:00 - [81] - Quote Taskforce Phoenix for the Gallente? Seems fitting, to me, at least. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 383	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:29:00 - [82] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Honestly, CCP Rattati, you should probably hit up ISD Mercury - I'm sure they'd love the opportunity to offer up their expertise for something like this. Rather than the Dust 514 community spitballing =P Or we could, you know, actually place stock into what some of our community members are saying here instead of passing the buck off to a Mercury team that (as far as I can tell) doesn't give a damn about the DUST 514 community? I mean... Yes, Mercury should be kept in the loop and our suggestions should be confirmed by them before some sort of canon implementation into lore. Especially since, I suspect, established lore like this would make an excellent opportunity for a 'Methods of Torture' type lore series that delves into different special forces teams across New Eden. But I think passing the buck off to them is just lame when we already have a lot of people here who legitimately care and have put forward good suggestions to represent their Empire. ^This +1 I need your pub chat. Lol ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:54:00 - [83] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Empress Sworn? Executive Security? Council Huntsmen? TALON? For the Minmatar would there been an official lore to draw from that could see the root of 'true' from Sanmatar meshed with 'hunter' or 'huntsmen'. Sanmatar means 'true Matar' but is a title given to the sole leader of the Minmatar and was previously a defunct title until Maleatu Shakor reinstated it. And just for those who play FFXIV........ Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sultan Sworn? Well at least FFXIV free paladins aren't lawful stupid :P also lot so many other cliches have been overdone; seeker; keeper; hand of ect ect to which I will blame DnD and subsequent inspired on. Rather have sworn than custodies in subligars. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:15:00 - [84] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Taskforce Phoenix for the Gallente? Seems fitting, to me, at least. Phoenix's are caldari in eve (its their dreadnought). Elysian First Responders for gal? My names are probably more suited for corps though. Maybe we could do more improving here though. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:22:00 - [85] - Quote Pretty sure we argued that Elysians was more appropriate Amarr nickname for the immortal soldiers. (as the immortal pilots get Emperyians) As for Pheonix it really belongs to the Caldari; both culturally and figuratively for a nation that almost got annihilated by the much larger Gallente Federation. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:26:00 - [86] - Quote Empyreans referred to all immortals from the amarr perspective. Elysians is a Greek mythology tie-in as much as einherjar for the min. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:26:00 - [87] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Empress Sworn? Executive Security? Council Huntsmen? TALON? For the Minmatar would there been an official lore to draw from that could see the root of 'true' from Sanmatar meshed with 'hunter' or 'huntsmen'. Sanmatar means 'true Matar' but is a title given to the sole leader of the Minmatar and was previously a defunct title until Maleatu Shakor reinstated it. And just for those who play FFXIV........ Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sultan Sworn? Well at least FFXIV free paladins aren't lawful stupid :P also lot so many other cliches have been overdone; seeker; keeper; hand of ect ect to which I will blame DnD and subsequent inspired on. Rather have sworn than custodies in subligars. Some entry level ideas Sanctum Squires Corporate Cohorts Ratatoskr Recon Sable Pinion and some mid range things Principal Palmach Task Force Directive Clans Coterie Argos Brigade notation making stuff up based on my current knowledge my lore level is only lvl 3 general knowledge progressing towards 4 but its been very difficult without RPing. This can hopefully inspire better names and mixes of hte like. Not sure I'd enjoy being a Squire.....would seem like a demotion from Templar. However the concept of cohorts does intrigue me. I went through the unfinished Amarrad Primer to see if I could piece anything together but I doubt the results will be particularly popular especially since the primer is not PF. I got bored and was fusing words which just resulted in Ecclesiarch and Hussars into Eclessars...... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.*
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:52:00 - [88] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Not sure a soldier would enjoy being a Squire.....would seem like a demotion from Templar, Cyber Knight, Kameira. However the concept of cohorts does intrigue me. I went through the unfinished Amarrad Primer to see if I could piece anything together but I doubt the results will be particularly popular especially since the primer is not PF. I got bored and was fusing words which just resulted in Ecclesiarch and Hussars into Eclessars...... Well I am not sure if this is true but I dont think that if you are a black belt in one school of Martial arts they'd give you a black belt in another if anything they will start you back at their lowest 'belt'. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:53:00 - [89] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: Not sure a soldier would enjoy being a Squire.....would seem like a demotion from Templar, Cyber Knight, Kameira. However the concept of cohorts does intrigue me. I went through the unfinished Amarrad Primer to see if I could piece anything together but I doubt the results will be particularly popular especially since the primer is not PF. I got bored and was fusing words which just resulted in Ecclesiarch and Hussars into Eclessars...... Well I am not sure if this is true but I dont think that if you are a black belt in one school of Martial arts they'd give you a black belt in another if anything they will start you back at their lowest 'belt'. Valid point. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:48:00 - [90] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: Not sure a soldier would enjoy being a Squire.....would seem like a demotion from Templar, Cyber Knight, Kameira. However the concept of cohorts does intrigue me. I went through the unfinished Amarrad Primer to see if I could piece anything together but I doubt the results will be particularly popular especially since the primer is not PF. I got bored and was fusing words which just resulted in Ecclesiarch and Hussars into Eclessars...... Well I am not sure if this is true but I dont think that if you are a black belt in one school of Martial arts they'd give you a black belt in another if anything they will start you back at their lowest 'belt'. Martial artist here: Generally there's an aptitude & knowledge test and you'll probably start off at a middle level unless its an incredibly different fighting style (capoeira -> jiyu jutsu is one where a large chunk doesn't translate). Competence (and rank) are something that transfer well. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:58:00 - [91] - Quote Well generally the same concept you may fight in one style in the Templar but in the more elite knight order things are done entirely differently thus your starting rank is lowered until you can prove you're good. FW is a whole different ballpark in fighting from Pub offerings while a top notch Templar may mow down blue berries in pubs he may just get flatted easily in FW so begins again the relearning process. A good player will progress quickly through the ranks others that are not so adept will be doomed to that rank a much while longer. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:45:00 - [92] - Quote I like the sound of what this thread might be briging in the future A CPM2 Candidate! More info KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:58:00 - [93] - Quote So one group I'd kind of like to reference to is the shinsengumi who I feel with some work could end up being a caldari 'elite' type group that would work well. Would require some name tweaking though. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.30 06:14:00 - [94] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: ^So essentially we're naming groups rather than more individual/personal titles. Stuff like maroons, musketeers, franks (after their francisca's) Precisely This was the intent I read from the get-go. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 436	Posted - 2015.07.30 06:19:00 - [95] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: So one group I'd kind of like to reference to is the shinsengumi who I feel with some work could end up being a caldari 'elite' type group that would work well. Would require some name tweaking though. I like it, and I'd have to agree that with a bit of tweaking it'd make a fitting analogue for the elite special operations force that the Caldari have been missing. Reading up on them it seems like they're really exemplify the idea of a number of specialists from different corperate backgrounds coming together to form an elite team to be used in support of the State in any way they can. I still think we should pair it with a more modern title though to make something like the Roushi / Shinsengumi Pathfinders. Alternatively, if we wanted to get crazy, we could take a tab from Finland and make the Roushi Erikoisj+ñ+ñk+ñrikomppania (Roushi Special Jaeger Company, the RSJC). In native Caldari, that would make it the REJK. (Pronounced "The Rejects".) It's funny because before Caldari Prime there was a stigma among the Caldari that soldiers working for private companies like The Watch were only there because they couldn't hack it in the Expeditionary Marines. It's also a cool acronym, similar to modern agencies like JSOC and MAC V SOG. I know, I don't expect anyone to actually like this idea but... I think it's pretty cool. Alternatively, for the Minimatar (which are normally outside of my area of expertice) I'd recommend the Ulfhednar. We already have the Valkeniers, who are the Republic's big bad reformed prisoner soldiers, but New Eden lacks a more stealthy and cunning option in the Matari repertoire. In ancient nordic traditions while berserkers traditionally embodied the spirit of The Bear and charged headlong into the enemy front lines, ulfhednars were soldiers who strive to channel the soul of the wolf into how they fought on the battlefield. They would dye their skin black, don a wolf pelt, and band together in packs to take down opponents through skirmish hit-and-run tactics. Ultimately ulfhednar raiding parties were so successful that Europeans who fell victim deduced that they had superhuman abilities, which supposidly inspired some of the first tales of werewolves. While wolves are only a legend in New Eden, the idea of a group of Minmatar soldiers throwing on animal furs over modern chest rigs and placing themselves behind enemy lines to disrupt logistics and free slaves just seems fitting. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.30 06:46:00 - [96] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: So one group I'd kind of like to reference to is the shinsengumi who I feel with some work could end up being a caldari 'elite' type group that would work well. Would require some name tweaking though. I like it, and I'd have to agree that with a bit of tweaking it'd make a fitting analogue for the elite special operations force that the Caldari have been missing. Reading up on them it seems like they're really exemplify the idea of a number of specialists from different corperate backgrounds coming together to form an elite team to be used in support of the State in any way they can. I still think we should pair it with a more modern title though to make something like the Roushi / Shinsengumi Pathfinders. Alternatively, if we wanted to get crazy, we could take a tab from Finland and make the Roushi Erikoisj+ñ+ñk+ñrikomppania (Roushi Special Jaeger Company, the RSJC). In native Caldari, that would make it the REJK. (Pronounced "The Rejects".) It's funny because before Caldari Prime there was a stigma among the Caldari that soldiers working for private companies like The Watch were only there because they couldn't hack it in the Expeditionary Marines. It's also a cool acronym, similar to modern agencies like JSOC and MAC V SOG. I know, I don't expect anyone to actually like this idea but... I think it's pretty cool. Alternatively, for the Minimatar (which are normally outside of my area of expertice) I'd recommend the Ulfhednar. We already have the Valkeniers, who are the Republic's big bad reformed prisoner soldiers, but New Eden lacks a more stealthy and cunning option in the Matari repertoire. In ancient nordic traditions while berserkers traditionally embodied the spirit of The Bear and charged headlong into the enemy front lines, ulfhednars were soldiers who strive to channel the soul of the wolf into how they fought on the battlefield. They would dye their skin black, don a wolf pelt, and band together in packs to take down opponents through skirmish hit-and-run tactics. Ultimately ulfhednar raiding parties were so successful that Europeans who fell victim deduced that they had superhuman abilities, which supposidly inspired some of the first tales of werewolves. While wolves are only a legend in New Eden, the idea of a group of Minmatar soldiers throwing on animal furs over modern chest rigs and placing themselves behind enemy lines to disrupt logistics and free slaves just seems fitting. Valklears, not Valkeniers. Also I like the general concept of your idea for the Minmatar elite force, but I think the name should be something like Wolf Berserkers since the ulfhednars just looks and sounds unwieldy. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 437	Posted - 2015.07.30 07:18:00 - [97] - Quote I would agree, but the problem is that Berserkers come from the words "Ber" and "serkr", which means "Bearshirt" for the pelts worn specifically by berserkers. That having been said eventually the meaning of the word was lost entirely to other cultures and 'berserkers' became a blanket term for Norse animal warriors. I suppose we could settle with just plain Berserkers, but Wolf Berserkers just be all sorts of redundant. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.30 08:12:00 - [98] - Quote For a stealthy matari unit like the black eagles? Svartalfar. The original "dark elves" and Norse mirror of the Gaelic Sidhe Fae. The name translates to "black elves. While I personally can't find a whole lot on them that isn't vague they seem very similar in concept and method to the Sidhe, who were bound from lying. But they were incredibly stealthy and were the masters of decieving people with bald-faced truth, often having the prize desired by an enemy standing in the open, hidden to eyes searching for secrets. Can anyone confirm that the Svartalfar were similar? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 09:35:00 - [99] - Quote Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that)
Haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 09:48:00 - [100] - Quote Minmatar Loft Tomte (L+Ñv Nisse) The Loft Tomte (L+Ñv Nisse) is a very favoured, and prestigious, title (and creature) in nordic countries. And as the folks of Minmatar FW continuously prove, they do have Tomtar p+Ñ Loftet (Nissar p+Ñ L+Ñven), so it makes for a great fit that way too.

Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 25	Posted - 2015.07.30 10:51:00 - [101] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Taskforce Phoenix for the Gallente? Seems fitting, to me, at least. Phoenix's are caldari in eve (its their dreadnought). This is like saying Black Eagles shouldn't be a thing because there's a Caldari ship in EVE called an Eagle. These are separate things and do not exclude each other. Arkena Wyrnspire - CPM2 candidate
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.30 11:03:00 - [102] - Quote haerr wrote: Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that) Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 19:37:00 - [103] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: haerr wrote: Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that) Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire. Huh... What are you on about?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.30 20:13:00 - [104] - Quote haerr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: haerr wrote: Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that) Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire. Huh... What are you on about? Many Amarr believe the process of cloning fundamentally corrupts the soul. This is why most Heir and the Empress do not clone even though they are able to become capsuleers. That law however only applies to nobility and not the normal rank and file of the Empire though in circles Immortal Clones like us are openly reviled. However in this case I'm not sure Sacred Flesh is relevant to us. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 388	Posted - 2015.07.30 20:32:00 - [105] - Quote "..For I shall make you an angel among us, a warrior that can never fall" Jamyl Sarum I ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 20:38:00 - [106] - Quote True Adamance wrote: haerr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: haerr wrote: Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that) Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire. Huh... What are you on about? Many Amarr believe the process of cloning fundamentally corrupts the soul. This is why most Heir and the Empress do not clone even though they are able to become capsuleers. That law however only applies to nobility and not the normal rank and file of the Empire though in circles Immortal Clones like us are openly reviled. However in this case I'm not sure Sacred Flesh is relevant to us. Thank you for the explanation, but I still can't make out if you guys think that calling the afw rank10 Amarr (Templar) Ascendants is a good or bad thing. Since mercs from all kinds of places can get to afw rank10 the bit about rising above was directed at non-amarr mercs. And the Amarr Templars is supposed to be about dust clones, no?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.30 20:49:00 - [107] - Quote haerr wrote: True Adamance wrote: haerr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: haerr wrote: Amarr (Templar) Ascendants (Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.) (Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars. (Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that) Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire. Huh... What are you on about? Many Amarr believe the process of cloning fundamentally corrupts the soul. This is why most Heir and the Empress do not clone even though they are able to become capsuleers. That law however only applies to nobility and not the normal rank and file of the Empire though in circles Immortal Clones like us are openly reviled. However in this case I'm not sure Sacred Flesh is relevant to us. Thank you for the explanation, but I still can't make out if you guys think that calling the afw rank10 Amarr (Templar) Ascendants is a good or bad thing. Since mercs from all kinds of places can get to afw rank10 the bit about rising above was directed at non-amarr mercs. And the Amarr Templars is supposed to be about dust clones, no? I'm not really convinced randomly introducing a faction such as the 'Empress Guard' is a good idea. Frankly I think it's a terrible one since Dusters and Capsuleers like us are in no way officially attached to the military groups of our respective entities and giving a group of players a direct line to any factional leadership..... however with the threat of being labelled 'anti-fun' hanging over my head should I dare speak out against the whims of others I've little choice but to capitulate. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 388	Posted - 2015.07.30 20:56:00 - [108] - Quote Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:05:00 - [109] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'm not really convinced randomly introducing a faction such as the 'Empress Guard' is a good idea. Frankly I think it's a terrible one since Dusters and Capsuleers like us are in no way officially attached to the military groups of our respective entities and giving a group of players a direct line to any factional leadership..... however with the threat of being labelled 'anti-fun' hanging over my head should I dare speak out against the whims of others I've little choice but to capitulate. But the Amarr Templars is a mercenary company isn't it? That sounds fairly far removed from any 'Empress Guard' to me. Not labelling you in any way, so go on speak freely. Besides I am more attached to calling the mercs who get afw rank10 Ascendants bit than anything else, if Templars doesn't fit in there then Templars doesn't fit in there but maybe something else will?
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 389	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:13:00 - [110] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too. My point. Why recreate the wheel when the wheel is already there. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:14:00 - [111] - Quote haerr wrote: True Adamance wrote: I'm not really convinced randomly introducing a faction such as the 'Empress Guard' is a good idea. Frankly I think it's a terrible one since Dusters and Capsuleers like us are in no way officially attached to the military groups of our respective entities and giving a group of players a direct line to any factional leadership..... however with the threat of being labelled 'anti-fun' hanging over my head should I dare speak out against the whims of others I've little choice but to capitulate. But the Amarr Templars is a mercenary company isn't it? That sounds fairly far removed from any 'Empress Guard' to me. Not labelling you in any way, so go on speak freely. Besides I am more attached to calling the mercs who get afw rank10 Ascendants bit than anything else, if Templars doesn't fit in there then Templars doesn't fit in there but maybe something else will? I've not read Templar One so I do not claim to know what Tony Gonzales attempted to pass the Templar's off as in that novel but the Templar's we know are indeed mercenaries aligned with and beholden too in an unofficial sense the Emperor Family. "The business interests of the secretive Emperor Family rarely come under close scrutiny but their involvement in the establishment of the Amarr Templars mercenary company could hardly escape the attention of the wider Empire. Keen to convey an image of austere piety and ruthless loyalty, the Templars are a favorite with those corporations wishing to carry out 'hostile takeovers' of facilities on Amarr planets." - Amarr Templars RP wise Templar is the unofficial term of describing an Immortal Cloned Soldier in service to the Amarr Empire. As Benandjerrys mentioned we already have all of these groups that we could possibly want as elite soldiers in service to a faction but without directly representing them all the while being elite and above the rank and file. "The personal guard of the ruler of the Amarr Empire are drawn from the finest troops the Imperial military can offer. While its core duties revolve around safeguarding the occupant of the Imperial Throne, the Imperial Guard is a large and very well-equipped body. The Guard can project impressive force across New Eden with fanatical devotion to its orders." - Imperial Guard Make a note of the fact that while we Dusters fight for the Imperial Guard we are not members. "Tracing their roots back to an ancient order of gladiatorial fighters, the Bragians are notorious for their brutality and will to survive against all odds. As one of the few licensed mercenary corporations working within the Amarr Empire, the Bragian Order is regularly called on by Amarr Holders and megacorporations for special jobs, regardless of their reputation for atrocity. Well understanding the trade of fighting for coin, the Bragians care for little besides their reward for victory in battle." - Bragian Order or... "While powerful Amarr Holders may retain private armies, minor houses are often prevented from maintaining military cadres by their lieges, religious laws or Imperial decrees. A few organizations exist to provide such Holders with military capability and the Holdfast Syndicate is one of these. While many minor houses have invested in Holdfast, the corporation is independent and regularly takes on contracts across New Eden." - Holdfast Syndicate Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Mad Kras 250	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:16:00 - [112] - Quote What about the Amarr Kameiras? According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers
haerr 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:18:00 - [113] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too. My point. Why recreate the wheel when the wheel is already there. ^ Thanks man! Links below DUST 514 NPC Corporations Amarr Templars
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:25:00 - [114] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too. It really seems to sound like you think we're creating new corporations, when really we're seeking to have more 'unofficial' (yet still official) groups and names. So much like past armies had kataphracts (heavily armored cavalry) or dragoons (light cavalry named after their weapon of choice a pistol called 'the dragon') or musketeers (soldiers who fought with muskets) or fusileers / fusiladors (soldiers who fought with rifles) or even original commandos (or more modern groups like the seals or green berets) or there were groups of escaped slaves like the maroons, or groups like the shinsengumi... we're seeking less to create 'corporations' and more stuff like 'elite military group' type titles. Yes technically we already have groups that fill this, like storm wind strike force, kinsho swords, mikramurka shock troops, zumari force projection, red & silver hand, amarr templars etc... these are all "Official" groups, we're kind of looking for less official ones. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 391	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:27:00 - [115] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: What about the Amarr Kameiras? According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers And the Valkleers on the other end are described in both books. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:32:00 - [116] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: What about the Amarr Kameiras? According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers Kameira is not a rank that you can earn it is what you are. As I mentioned they are the products of the H.E.P Human Experimentation drawn from the the best stocks of carefully bred slaves and raised specifically in traditional Amarrian forms to become a unique breed of soldier. You cannot become one unless you are born and raised as one. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Mad Kras 250	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:44:00 - [117] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mad Kras wrote: What about the Amarr Kameiras? According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers Kameira is not a rank that you can earn it is what you are. As I mentioned they are the products of the H.E.P Human Experimentation drawn from the the best stocks of carefully bred slaves and raised specifically in traditional Amarrian forms to become a unique breed of soldier. You cannot become one unless you are born and raised as one. That's why I mentioned the officers, aren't they considered part of the unit? Correct me if I'm wrong I also always liked the name "Shining Flame" maybe something inspired to that?
benandjerrys Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 391	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:46:00 - [118] - Quote So on my EvE side we call our CEO a Chamberlain, our directors are holders, newbros are initaties. Will this idea bridge the ceos of our npc corps to such titles we are brainstorming? ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.30 21:56:00 - [119] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mad Kras wrote: What about the Amarr Kameiras? According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers Kameira is not a rank that you can earn it is what you are. As I mentioned they are the products of the H.E.P Human Experimentation drawn from the the best stocks of carefully bred slaves and raised specifically in traditional Amarrian forms to become a unique breed of soldier. You cannot become one unless you are born and raised as one. That's why I mentioned the officers, aren't they considered part of the unit? Correct me if I'm wrong I also always liked the name "Shining Flame" maybe something inspired to that? Indeed. The officers of such regiments are more often than not True Amarr. I am very glad you picked up on that. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.31 01:13:00 - [120] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: I would agree, but the problem is that Berserkers come from the words "Ber" and "serkr", which means "Bearshirt" for the pelts worn specifically by berserkers. That having been said eventually the meaning of the word was lost entirely to other cultures and 'berserkers' became a blanket term for Norse animal warriors. Wolf Berserker would then translate to "Wolf Bear Shirt." I suppose we could settle with just plain Berserkers, but that would have entirely different implications. Or a name like Storm Wolves (or Storm Wolf) Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.07.31 03:34:00 - [121] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too. My point. Why recreate the wheel when the wheel is already there. Problem is that we have about 2 wheels on opposite diagonal ends of a 4 wheeled car. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:31:00 - [122] - Quote i can think of some pretty good names for the minmatar ranks... give me some time and ill list them Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:33:00 - [123] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: i can think of some pretty good names for the minmatar ranks... give me some time and ill list them It's not ranks, it's like... paramilitary elites. So State peacekeepers -> Rasetsu Peacemakers. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:36:00 - [124] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: knight guard fury wrote: i can think of some pretty good names for the minmatar ranks... give me some time and ill list them It's not ranks, it's like... paramilitary elites. So State peacekeepers -> Rasetsu Peacemakers. oh so like a name for one specific elite group? Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:40:00 - [125] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: knight guard fury wrote: i can think of some pretty good names for the minmatar ranks... give me some time and ill list them It's not ranks, it's like... paramilitary elites. So State peacekeepers -> Rasetsu Peacemakers. oh so like a name for one specific elite group? More like 'badass groups' without jumping into the territory of corporations / militaries... So, ghurkas, or dragoons, or musketeers / fusileers, shinsengumi etc. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:43:00 - [126] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: knight guard fury wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: knight guard fury wrote: i can think of some pretty good names for the minmatar ranks... give me some time and ill list them It's not ranks, it's like... paramilitary elites. So State peacekeepers -> Rasetsu Peacemakers. oh so like a name for one specific elite group? More like 'badass groups' without jumping into the territory of corporations / militaries... So, ghurkas, or dragoons, or musketeers / fusileers, shinsengumi etc. so if im understanding this right, basically 'in general' cool names for any given groups of a specific faction Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:44:00 - [127] - Quote Not quite. Read the thread. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:49:00 - [128] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Not quite. Read the thread. i understand now. but just to be sure, for lore, purposes can the names be slightly made up to make it sound cool? i had Vorentar (Vo - Ren - Tar) and a few others in mind for the minmatar Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:56:00 - [129] - Quote Preferably not completely fabricated I dont think, frames of reference and context are important. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:58:00 - [130] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Preferably not completely fabricated I dont think, frames of reference and context are important. i wouldn't say completely, but just enough so that it sounds like the race im referring to. Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master

knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 07:12:00 - [131] - Quote a few cool names i had in mind for the minmatar: - Vorentar (or Vorrentar) Vo Ren Tar // Vor Ren Tar - chief combat shamans or CCS?? (doesnt so so bad as* but it was just a thought) - talon strike warrior - blade hunters - temper fates?? - ghoul assassin's idk about all these names but i just thought of these few just off the top of my haed. Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 437	Posted - 2015.07.31 07:58:00 - [132] - Quote So right now where do we stand with the Caldari? The Rasetsu Special Jaeger Company would still come out to REJK, which makes me happy. But I want some sort of consensus between Caldari Lore experts before we settle on anything. In my opinion, the Caldari are the ones most in need of a new and definitive special forces than any other empire now that the Dragonaurs are gone. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
Blueprint For Murder Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 475	Posted - 2015.07.31 08:11:00 - [133] - Quote Minmitar - The Forgotten Amar - Archlords Caldari - Alpha Gladiators or AG team Gallente - Ash sometimes referred to as the A-Team or Dust team The one term I don't like to be called is a 'vulture.' Because to me, a vulture is a kind of asset-stripper that eats dead flesh off the bones of a dead creature. Our bird should be the phoenix, the bird that reinvents itself, recreates itself from its ashes. And that's much closer to what it is that we really do.- Wilbur Ross Amatoxin
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.31 18:15:00 - [134] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: So right now where do we stand with the Caldari? The Rasetsu Special Jaeger Company would still come out to REJK, which makes me happy. But I want some sort of consensus between Caldari Lore experts before we settle on anything. In my opinion, the Caldari are the ones most in need of a new and definitive special forces than any other empire now that the Dragonaurs are gone. The word "Jaeger", or anything German just doesn't sound like it belongs there. The REJK "Rejects" you're going for is cool, but it would only work in English (though would be cool if you could somehow get it to work in the Caldari language, but there probably isn't enough info on the language in the real lore.) Still hoping for Goryo Enforcers, or Goryo Enforcement Directorate. Or some word with double "U"s and/or double "A"s like Kaalakiota or Sukuuvesta. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.07.31 18:46:00 - [135] - Quote My simple names for minmatar elite force: "The Circle" or "The Shell" (inspired by the shell of minmatar logo) Regressed to blueberry level.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 437	Posted - 2015.07.31 20:50:00 - [136] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Galm Fae wrote: So right now where do we stand with the Caldari? The Rasetsu Special Jaeger Company would still come out to REJK, which makes me happy. But I want some sort of consensus between Caldari Lore experts before we settle on anything. In my opinion, the Caldari are the ones most in need of a new and definitive special forces than any other empire now that the Dragonaurs are gone. The word "Jaeger", or anything German just doesn't sound like it belongs there. The REJK "Rejects" you're going for is cool, but it would only work in English (though would be cool if you could somehow get it to work in the Caldari language, but there probably isn't enough info on the language in the real lore.) Still hoping for Goryo Enforcers, or Goryo Enforcement Directorate. Or some word with double "U"s and/or double "A"s like Kaalakiota or Sukuuvesta. The Rejects part was never suppose to be a serious suggestion, it's just something that I thought would have been neat as an inside joke. Also the word Jaeger (in regards to a military unit) isn't exclusively German at all. It was originally Hessian in origin, with 'jaegers' acting as elite riflemen selected to offset standard military units by bolstering them with royal huntsmen and Forstleute. Jaegers typically acted semi-autonomously by acting as sharpshooters, couriers, and scouts. The program was so successful that they spread all over Europe, gaining prominence right up around the time of the Napoleonic Wars. (But Galm, so what?) I'm glad you asked. Y'see, for the longest time troops were incapable of breaching French (cough Gallente cough) sharpshooter defenses so invaded nations were forced to rely on drafted teams from line infantry to throw their lives away in a bloody and ill-fated charge if they needed to pierce the enemy lines. The Prussians, however, had the excellent idea that instead of just using conscripts as their elite strike team they'd train and refine a new Jaeger Corps to breach the frontlines in two man strike teams. Due to the success of the program mercenary teams were replaced with elite recon troops, corporal punishment became abolished entirely for Jaegers, and for the first time in European military history a soldier could increase their status based on merit rather than nobility. That screams the sort of meritocratic grit that the Caldari need right now. More importantly though, the Jaegers are just as much Finn as they are German. During World War I, Finland began a massive push to modernize their soldiers through introduction of foreign training. While Russia had long been planning to annex the country, the Germans hoped to weaken Russia by supporting Finland's independence and cultural identity. Thus the Jaeger Movement began, where thousands of officers were trained by working-class German irregulars while other officers were trained by Russian nobility. This drove a massive wedge in the country between jaeger-trained military officers and those trained by Imperial Russia. The country ultimately sided with the jaegers, which was no doubt (in addition to the guerrilla training they had received from the Germans) critical to their success in the Winter War. If you know anything about Finland's history, you know how important the Winter War was. Today the word jaeger isn't even considered so much German in European countries as much as it is synonymous with "elite light riflemen" and I don't think pigeonholing it into a strictly German practice is fair. I mean, everyone is fine with calling a suit a commando, but no one ever mentions the fact that it comes from the Afrikaans kommandos. Even then the argument of it not 'sounding right' is entirely subjective. Napanii uses loan-words all the time from the Amarr, I very much doubt they would have a problem with a 'German' word that's been a part of their culture longer than the Raata Empire. I feel like it's a constant thing, and lord knows I'm guilty of it too, that people want to rely on the crutch of Japanese culture for the Caldari without putting any thought into the equally important European side. tl;dr Jaegers are important. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.31 21:00:00 - [137] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Also the word Jaeger (in regards to a military unit) isn't exclusively German at all. It was originally Hessian in origin Hessian's were 18th century German mercenaries... So the word Jaeger is is without a doubt German in origin. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 21:06:00 - [138] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Also the word Jaeger (in regards to a military unit) isn't exclusively German at all. It was originally Hessian in origin Hessian's were 18th century German mercenaries... So the word Jaeger is is without a doubt German in origin. The point your head. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.31 21:16:00 - [139] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Also the word Jaeger (in regards to a military unit) isn't exclusively German at all. It was originally Hessian in origin Hessian's were 18th century German mercenaries... So the word Jaeger is is without a doubt German in origin. The point your head. Then please explain "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.31 21:23:00 - [140] - Quote ^While it may have originated in germany, it became a ubiquitous term throughout europe applied to all organizations with that type of structure. Seriously, read the post, stop for a few minutes and process what it said. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.01 06:51:00 - [141] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Galm Fae wrote: So right now where do we stand with the Caldari? The Rasetsu Special Jaeger Company would still come out to REJK, which makes me happy. But I want some sort of consensus between Caldari Lore experts before we settle on anything. In my opinion, the Caldari are the ones most in need of a new and definitive special forces than any other empire now that the Dragonaurs are gone. The word "Jaeger", or anything German just doesn't sound like it belongs there. The REJK "Rejects" you're going for is cool, but it would only work in English (though would be cool if you could somehow get it to work in the Caldari language, but there probably isn't enough info on the language in the real lore.) Still hoping for Goryo Enforcers, or Goryo Enforcement Directorate. Or some word with double "U"s and/or double "A"s like Kaalakiota or Sukuuvesta. [GOOD STUFF] tl;dr Jaegers are important. Regardless of how widely the word got adopted, it still sounds very German, and it's out of place in both sound and spelling for Caldari words. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 437	Posted - 2015.08.01 07:42:00 - [142] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Galm Fae wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Galm Fae wrote: So right now where do we stand with the Caldari? The Rasetsu Special Jaeger Company would still come out to REJK, which makes me happy. But I want some sort of consensus between Caldari Lore experts before we settle on anything. In my opinion, the Caldari are the ones most in need of a new and definitive special forces than any other empire now that the Dragonaurs are gone. The word "Jaeger", or anything German just doesn't sound like it belongs there. The REJK "Rejects" you're going for is cool, but it would only work in English (though would be cool if you could somehow get it to work in the Caldari language, but there probably isn't enough info on the language in the real lore.) Still hoping for Goryo Enforcers, or Goryo Enforcement Directorate. Or some word with double "U"s and/or double "A"s like Kaalakiota or Sukuuvesta. [GOOD STUFF] tl;dr Jaegers are important. Regardless of how widely the word got adopted, it still sounds very German, and it's out of place in both sound and spelling for Caldari words. And Templis Dragonaurs sounds very latin, but if you're hell bent to find a word that 'sounds caldari' then we can always go with the native Erikoisj+ñ+ñk+ñrikomppania . OR you can take my word for it when I tell you that 'sounding German' is a non-problem. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.01 08:12:00 - [143] - Quote Going to try to be more creative for the Amarr The Sanguine Hand: they are skilled assassins that does the dirty political business of the Amarr royal families. Not much is known about this secret society of hooded killers. The Flaming Sword: pious warriors who are known for their ancient traditions involving the use of fire. The Flaming Sword makes their recruits engage in duel ceremonies as part of their initiation. These recruits use swords on fire to duel to the death. The Living Shrines: another band of warriors that originate from the Amarr Empire. These warrior priest operates in cells of eleven, and they brand themselves with the words of the Amarr Scriptures -- each member thus becomes a living chapter, and each cell is thus seen as a completed book. They believe their bodies to be shrines housing their God. Cult of Trium-Eidomon: these heretics follow a heretical version of Amarrian Faith in which their founder, Trium-Eidomon, is venerated as a saint. Despite their unorthodox beliefs, they are allowed to exist and operate within the Empire due to their connections to various lesser noble houses who frequently make use of the warrior cult for their own political ends. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 124	Posted - 2015.08.01 09:04:00 - [144] - Quote After you get all this settled, I assume that we will have a new game mode; because, why would any specialized professional unit EVER mix with the ENEMY? Guys from units such as (NKSuk + Spetznutz) and (22 SAS + SFOD-D) on the same fire team---yeah, that's going to be a real Goat Rope! Mordu's Legion was the glue, then Corps now this. This would and should be factional/fratricide. I am chill with it, because we Caldari do not want to smell the MInmitar, or try to converse with another fuqtarded Gaulente, and as for the ball-less Amarr and their *****...! 100% RP suits me right down to the ground and make sure everything on me is 100% authentic. "Weren't no cell phones in '69, man. I'm head-to-toe legitimate." -Kirk Lazarus Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.01 18:44:00 - [145] - Quote Continuation of this post. Amarr Alukan Order (based on the Hebrew word Aluka ): only spoken of in obscure rumor and stories to frighten children, recent evidence suggests that these monstrous fanatics to be frighteningly real. Adherent to one of the many outlawed Sani Sabik sects, the recruits of the Alukan Order are largely comprised of former soldiers of the Khanid Kingdom. These bloodthirsty warriors are believed to originate from outskirts of Khanid space, and engage in terrestrial raids against distant colonies in which they abduct civilians for their blood. While they do not use immortal cloning technology, their bodies are heavily augmented through bio-engineering and cybernetics, and they are said to rival the immortal mercenaries. As a result of these modifications, they appear as grotesque corpses with their scarred flesh woven with large metallic wires, and their glowing artificial eyes strike fear into their victims. With their skeletons coated in protective carbon-polymer shells, the Alukan Order have no use for armor, and thus cary out their raids in the nude. Like many Sani Sabik faithfuls, the Alukan Order performs various religious rituals with the blood, and they believe that consuming the blood has the power to make the invincible as well as indefinitely extend their lives. To aid in quenching their blood-lust, they have adopted a terrifying augmentations involving the use of needles that extend from their jaws like teeth for blood consumption. Evidence suggests they have begun working closely with Blood Raider pirates in terrestrial raids, and some have even speculated that these groups may soon enter a permanent union. More to come, this post may be updated. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:36:00 - [146] - Quote Rattati can we get an update to see if we're on the right page with the type of suggestions people are making? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:31:00 - [147] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Berserkers (Norse inspired, real world context): born during the days of the Minmatar Rebellion, the Berserkers are a group of warrior mystics originating from the Brutor & Vherokior tribes. These Berserkers dress themselves in the furs of large carnivores, & claim to channel the spirits of these creatures through the use of psychoactive herbs & mental training. They enter ecstatic trance to induce violent rampages striking fear in both enemies & allies. These mystics can still be found within the Republic today as a well-armed mercenary group, but they still wear the furs over their armor & still fight in trance state. I wanna touch on this idea specifically because it's actually pretty cool to me. The main thing that appeals to me is the inclusion of Vherokior culture (notably what I presume to be hallucinogenic herbs) which has always been a favorite of mine. Being a mercenary group though I sort of think that maybe they should a more profound reputation that isn't -entirely- culturally derived, something like booster usage (here's a list) prior to and during battles to enhance the fighting capability. Give them an anti-hero vibe with loose ties to the Angel/Serpentis Cartel and a bit of unique flare like that; a reason to love them but also sort of hate them. You could even mix aspects of the other suggestions you threw out to add more depth to their history, especially with a derivative Valklear lineage to these dudes as it just meshes well with the aforementioned drug use. A sort of "Criminals stay criminals, even after exoneration" approach. As though they've clashed criminal notoriety with tradition. The only other feedback I can give here is maybe come up with a more punchy name as 'Berserkers' sounds a little bland in the larger scheme of things. Make up a word if you want. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:56:00 - [148] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Berserkers (Norse inspired, real world context): born during the days of the Minmatar Rebellion, the Berserkers are a group of warrior mystics originating from the Brutor & Vherokior tribes. These Berserkers dress themselves in the furs of large carnivores, & claim to channel the spirits of these creatures through the use of psychoactive herbs & mental training. They enter ecstatic trance to induce violent rampages striking fear in both enemies & allies. These mystics can still be found within the Republic today as a well-armed mercenary group, but they still wear the furs over their armor & still fight in trance state. I wanna touch on this idea specifically because it's actually pretty cool to me. The main thing that appeals to me is the inclusion of Vherokior culture (notably what I presume to be hallucinogenic herbs) which has always been a favorite of mine. Being a mercenary group though I sort of think that maybe they should a more profound reputation that isn't -entirely- culturally derived, something like booster usage (here's a list) prior to and during battles to enhance the fighting capability. Give them an anti-hero vibe with loose ties to the Angel/Serpentis Cartel and a bit of unique flare like that; a reason to love them but also sort of hate them. You could even mix aspects of the other suggestions you threw out to add more depth to their history, especially with a derivative Valklear lineage to these dudes as it just meshes well with the aforementioned drug use. A sort of "Criminals stay criminals, even after exoneration" approach. As though they've clashed criminal notoriety with tradition. The only other feedback I can give here is maybe come up with a more punchy name as 'Berserkers' sounds a little bland in the larger scheme of things. Make up a word if you want. I wasn't the one who came up with the name Berseker, but I really like it. Not only does it sound cool to me, but it also fits with the Norse inspirations without sounding too weird. The name could modified into something like the Ukhamata Berserkers or something, but I'm fine with it either way. I do love the idea of using street drugs though. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:58:00 - [149] - Quote What about Huscarls for minmatar? Perhaps "Huscarl Defender". These guys would serve as bodyguards for important minmatar figures notably because assassinations are NOT infrequent, and as often come from the gallente federation as the amarr empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housecarl article brings out some other words that might be interesting, gri+¦menn ("home-men") in Norway and Iceland, inn+ªsm+ªn ("inside-men"). Icelandic laws also calls them einhleypingar ("lone-runners") and lausamenn ("men not tied"). Both terms emphasise that they were voluntarily in service of another as opposed to slaves. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:04:00 - [150] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: What about Huscarls for minmatar? Perhaps "Huscarl Defender". These guys would serve as bodyguards for important minmatar figures notably because assassinations are NOT infrequent, and as often come from the gallente federation as the amarr empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housecarl article brings out some other words that might be interesting, gri+¦menn ("home-men") in Norway and Iceland, inn+ªsm+ªn ("inside-men"). Icelandic laws also calls them einhleypingar ("lone-runners") and lausamenn ("men not tied"). Both terms emphasise that they were voluntarily in service of another as opposed to slaves. There's a NPC corp named Circle of Huskarl in the game. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:14:00 - [151] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: What about Huscarls for minmatar? Perhaps "Huscarl Defender". These guys would serve as bodyguards for important minmatar figures notably because assassinations are NOT infrequent, and as often come from the gallente federation as the amarr empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housecarl article brings out some other words that might be interesting, gri+¦menn ("home-men") in Norway and Iceland, inn+ªsm+ªn ("inside-men"). Icelandic laws also calls them einhleypingar ("lone-runners") and lausamenn ("men not tied"). Both terms emphasise that they were voluntarily in service of another as opposed to slaves. There's a NPC corp named Circle of Huskarl in the game. Y'know... I knew that too :( Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 03:00:00 - [152] - Quote Updated previous post with this: *Gallente* Lotus Blade: named after a bladed throwing weapon used by warriors long before their time, this organization traces it's origins from the Jin-Mei's pre-Federation days. The Lotus Blade has historically served as elite soldiers in service of the Sang Do caste. While they mainly use firearms, they are trained in advanced martial arts skills, and in a variety of classical weapons as a method of teaching discipline. Members are also encouraged to train their minds in artistic practices such as calligraphy, painting, and poetry. When the Jin-Mei joined the Gallente Federation, the Lotus Blade found a much larger market for their martial services, & today they exist as an mercenary force engaging in precision military operations for the Gallente Federation. Evidence suggest the Lotus Blade may be involved in corporate & political assassinations on behalf of the Jin-Mei criminal underworld, but the Federation has so far overlooked these allegations in light of the group's military utility. Libertine Battalion (inspired by Sacred Band of Thebes, & Gallente promiscuity): known officially as the Federation Special Forces Battalion 609, the infamous Libertine Battalion of the Federation has become well known for both their fighting prowess, and their unusual practices before battle. It is unknown how it started, but the war-hardened men and women that make up this unit have a adopted the practice of engaging in orgies before before deployment as a method of stress relief, and group bonding to maintain cohesion. While their practices are unorthodox, their near-flawless mission success rate have suggested to Federation psychologists that there may be something to this practice. ^ I feel like I should specify that this is not a joke. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:42:00 - [153] - Quote She hath spoken unto me that I might bring her word to the dark places of this forum. Samira Kernher, She Who Knows Ten-Thousand Things wrote: You can quote me, True. Also, here's the quote from EVE Source that is important here with regard to the status of Dusters in FW: Quote [CONCORD ratified them] as a legal entity with the Directive Enforcement Department's Mercenary Infomorph Act, released on May 14, YC 115. This legislation ushered in a new era for the cloned mercenary, and indeed for New Eden, causing the widespread legalized construction of mercenary enclaves and the revision of the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act to include the ability for cloned mercenaries to fight as independents on behalf of the sovereign militias. Coupled with this, the Mercenary Infomorph Act also gifted a status similar to that of the capsuleer to the cloned mercenaries, effectively billing them as independent political entities in their own right. So, for elite groups, I'm going to repeat some suggestions I made before: Amarr: Probably a cyberknight order. Cyberknights have the benefit of being one of if not the most elite of Amarr combatant orders while also being fairly independent. One can already consider the Amarr's Templar development as simply a refinement of pre-existing cyberknight technology, combining cybernetic soldiers with cloning much in the same way as capsuleers combined elite mind-machine interfacing pilots with cloning. Ergo, a knightly order gives something that is Amarr-aligned without being an official government entity. Think something like Knights Templar, the Order of the Knights of Saint John (Knights Hospitaller), etc. Hell, on a joke post CCP Falcon made about Jamyl's titles he mentioned her being the sovereign of a knightly order called the Order of the Hound. It was technically a joke post, but such a knightly order that the empress herself is the grand master of could very well be an option! Such a thing would be technically independent of the government apparatus, while still being very closely associated with the empress. I did notice on the dust forums that someone mentioned worry about being called a squire: Many knightly orders required a person to already be a knight before entrance. Knightly orders are elite groups, with strict selection criteria and limited numbers. What ranks they do tend to have are things like Knight Commander, Knight Captain, Master, Grand Master, etc. For an Amarrian order, however, I'd strongly recommend looking to Persian or Arabic nomenclature for inspiration rather than Latin/English ones. It should be reminded that most of the original names of Amarrian elements when EVE launched were Persian/Arabic/Hebrew. http://i.imgur.com/ZoBTpiP.jpg Gallente/Caldari: For Gallente and Caldari, I'd personally recommend either black ops units or Mordu-associated mercenary companies. Black ops units work due to being deniable operatives who are given dirty jobs that the government doesn't want to be associated with, giving it the necessary separation and independence necessary for a Duster. For Gallente, a Black Eagles unit would work well (with some non-descript name like Task Force XX). For Caldari, the same could be said of the various mercenary/black ops units attached to the megacorps. I would recommend mercenary company that works for either one of the Patriot groups (Kaalakiota, Wiyrkomi, and Lai Dai) or one of the Practical megacorps (Sukuuvestaa, Nugoeihuvi, or CBD). The Patriots give the opportunity for a fairly pro-State mercenary company, while the latter for a much more shady, underhanded and ruthless company. Again, these should be elite mercenary companies or black ops task forces, as Dusters are independent operatives. Minmatar: I'd recommend a particularly warlike clan for the Minmatar. Clans, while part of the general structure of the Republic, are essentially independent family groups only tied loosely with their tribe. This gives them a lot of freedom to act as they see fit. I would personally recommend a Krusual clan, as they are already associated with ground activities and ruthlessness, and are very patriotically minmatar as well. Alternatively, the Bloody Hands of Matar or the Maru Rebels (see below quote) could be an option. Both are pro-Minmatar freedom fighter/terrorist groups that act independently of the Republic government, and are very aggressively anti-Amarr. Quote The Maru Rebels The Maru Rebels were once part of a gang of pirates who turned into a sinister terrorist network claiming to fight for Minmatar freedom. In fact, they're little more a ruthless gang of criminals dealing in the black market, smuggling, and extortion and blackmail, even sometimes working as hired assassins. Their official agenda is to murder as many citizens of the Amarr nations as possible GÇò i.e., Amarr Empire, Ammatar, and Khanid Kingdom GÇò hoping to force them to withdraw eventually from historically Minmatar systems currently under Amarr control. The Minmatar Republic leadership has denounced them as being cutthroats and criminals even though they support Republic goals, and has put up a sizable bounty on their leader's head. But even so, the Rebels do maintain some support within the Minmatar Republic, which has allowed them certain freedoms other criminal networks do not have. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Sgt Kirk Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:47:00 - [154] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Libertine Battalion (inspired by Sacred Band of Thebes, & Gallente promiscuity): known officially as the Federation Special Forces Battalion 609, the infamous Libertine Battalion of the Federation has become well known for both their fighting prowess, and their unusual practices before battle. It is unknown how it started, but the war-hardened men and women that make up this unit have a adopted the practice of engaging in orgies before before deployment as a method of stress relief, and group bonding to maintain cohesion. While their practices are unorthodox, their near-flawless mission success rate have suggested to Federation psychologists that there may be something to this practice. ^ I feel like I should specify that this is not a joke. This This, lets go with this! -A vote for me is a vote for us You can vote for CPM 2 [here]
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.02 05:10:00 - [155] - Quote The Hakhuron Shield and the Living Shrines sound bad ass though I'd still kinda like to see them for the Amarr. Ammatar oddly enough don't even bother to regulate their own slave trade and don't even have Holders like the Amarr do. Many even believe themselves to be the rightful owners of the remaining Minmatar peoples. Having a particularly notable order that function as an intensely aggressive front line insurgency/counter insurgency command that has been at war with the Minmatar since the founding of the Mandate (remembering that there was a time in EVE where the Empire and Republic weren't in an official open war whereas the Ammatar and Minmatar have apparently always been at war) who are both fanatically loyal converts beyond all.... potentially loyal to the Ardishapurite Heir (Yonis arguably poised to steal Jamyl's throne) or directly only to the Throne itself would yield to some really combat effective soldiers. More interesting would be if these fighters tattooed themselves in cursive script from the Scriptures in similar fashions as the Nefantar might have once done. The ultimate insult by the Ammatar to their former kin and a complete affirmation of their transformation between Matar and Amarr. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 05:20:00 - [156] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The Hakhuron Shield and the Living Shrines sound bad ass though I'd still kinda like to see them for the Amarr. Ammatar oddly enough don't even bother to regulate their own slave trade and don't even have Holders like the Amarr do. Many even believe themselves to be the rightful owners of the remaining Minmatar peoples. Having a particularly notable order that function as an intensely aggressive front line insurgency/counter insurgency command that has been at war with the Minmatar since the founding of the Mandate (remembering that there was a time in EVE where the Empire and Republic weren't in an official open war whereas the Ammatar and Minmatar have apparently always been at war) who are both fanatically loyal converts beyond all.... potentially loyal to the Ardishapurite Heir (Yonis arguably poised to steal Jamyl's throne) or directly only to the Throne itself would yield to some really combat effective soldiers. More interesting would be if these fighters tattooed themselves in cursive script from the Scriptures in similar fashions as the Nefantar might have once done. The ultimate insult by the Ammatar to their former kin and a complete affirmation of their transformation between Matar and Amarr. Any thoughts on warrior cult of cybernetic space vampires (Alukan Order, the continuation post)? or the Cal/Gal ones? Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.02 05:24:00 - [157] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Hakhuron Shield and the Living Shrines sound bad ass though I'd still kinda like to see them for the Amarr. Ammatar oddly enough don't even bother to regulate their own slave trade and don't even have Holders like the Amarr do. Many even believe themselves to be the rightful owners of the remaining Minmatar peoples. Having a particularly notable order that function as an intensely aggressive front line insurgency/counter insurgency command that has been at war with the Minmatar since the founding of the Mandate (remembering that there was a time in EVE where the Empire and Republic weren't in an official open war whereas the Ammatar and Minmatar have apparently always been at war) who are both fanatically loyal converts beyond all.... potentially loyal to the Ardishapurite Heir (Yonis arguably poised to steal Jamyl's throne) or directly only to the Throne itself would yield to some really combat effective soldiers. More interesting would be if these fighters tattooed themselves in cursive script from the Scriptures in similar fashions as the Nefantar might have once done. The ultimate insult by the Ammatar to their former kin and a complete affirmation of their transformation between Matar and Amarr. Any thoughts on warrior cult of cybernetic space vampires (Alukan Order, the continuation post)? or the Cal/Gal ones? Cool in theory but cannot be an elite faction encompassed by the Amarr Empire. The Amarr openly revile and persecute Sani Sabik and the Sabik really don't like the Amarr. Even in Khanid Space where interpretation of Scriptural Law is more liberal they crack down on this sort of thing.....arguably more violently and ruthlessly. They'd make for a badass Blood Raider Corporation though. I also love you little bit of bio-engineering thing. Warriors who don't even need Armour to walk the battlefields sounds very Ancillary Justice to me. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 05:32:00 - [158] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Hakhuron Shield and the Living Shrines sound bad ass though I'd still kinda like to see them for the Amarr. Ammatar oddly enough don't even bother to regulate their own slave trade and don't even have Holders like the Amarr do. Many even believe themselves to be the rightful owners of the remaining Minmatar peoples. Having a particularly notable order that function as an intensely aggressive front line insurgency/counter insurgency command that has been at war with the Minmatar since the founding of the Mandate (remembering that there was a time in EVE where the Empire and Republic weren't in an official open war whereas the Ammatar and Minmatar have apparently always been at war) who are both fanatically loyal converts beyond all.... potentially loyal to the Ardishapurite Heir (Yonis arguably poised to steal Jamyl's throne) or directly only to the Throne itself would yield to some really combat effective soldiers. More interesting would be if these fighters tattooed themselves in cursive script from the Scriptures in similar fashions as the Nefantar might have once done. The ultimate insult by the Ammatar to their former kin and a complete affirmation of their transformation between Matar and Amarr. Any thoughts on warrior cult of cybernetic space vampires (Alukan Order, the continuation post)? or the Cal/Gal ones? Cool in theory but cannot be an elite faction encompassed by the Amarr Empire. The Amarr openly revile and persecute Sani Sabik. Even in Khanid Space where interpretation of Scriptural Law is more liberal they crack down on this sort of thing.....arguably more violently and ruthlessly. They'd make for a badass Blood Raider Corporation though. I also love you little bit of bio-engineering thing. Warriors who don't even need Armour to walk the battlefields sounds very Ancillary Justice to me. I just thought they had to be badass and elite, I didn't think they had be be on good terms with their faction. I could be misinterpreting things, but I never got the sense that Rattati meant these groups have be legal. Even as hated criminals, perhaps some corporations could secretly hire them to strike against important planets of their competitors. Now, your thoughts on my Gal / Cal suggestions. I know they're the most boring of the 2 factions, but I'm interesting in your opinion, or what you would do differently. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 437	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:20:00 - [159] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I know they're the most boring of the 2 factions, but I'm interesting in your opinion, or what you would do differently. Well maybe with that opinion you should shouldn't be weighing in on either. [Stressful laughter and screaming from inside Galm's helmet] Seriously, I hate to shut you down since your ideas for the Amarr and Minmatar are on point but for the love of Tibus Heth don't take the Caldari from me. You ideas for them are feel kinda sub par and sound more like mercenary corporation names than an elite military regiment. That's something you can probably get away with in some of the other Empires, but the Caldari are by far the most militaristic and I'd like to see a proper unit being fleshed out like something equivalent to the 5th Dragonaurs Armored Division. And yes I am, in fact, still in favor of the 3rd "Ratestu" Special Jaeger Company. (I added the 3rd now because I didn't think about it until now and I like the number 3.) Because saying that Jaeger doesn't fit would be like arguing that the Amarr shouldn't use the term "Paladins" because it is technically a Frankish word. I beg of you, if you are really willing to forgo a hundred years of history because something 'sounds German' then please please please read up on the exploits of Simo Hayha, a White Guard (read jaeger trained) sniper who singlehandedly turned the tide of war in the Winter War. This dude was so badass he would shovel snow into his mouth so that his breath wouldn't reveal his shooting position to Russian troops and refused to use a telescopic sight when sniping because an iron sight gave him a lower profile when aiming. At some point he had entire teams of snipers and artillery units dispatched to have him killed, but he kept on fighting right up until the moment that an explosive bullet cleaved off half his face. He survived his injuries to go on and become a professional moose hunter and dog breeder until he died of old age in 2002. However, if even Rattati disagrees with me on this then feel free to replace "Special Jaeger Company" with the Suojeluskunta or "Civil Guard." In addition to being the Finn White Guard militia in the Finland Civil War, they were the force that trained (cough along with jaeger officers cough) Simo to become the force of nature that he was. Don't just force Goryo because it sounds right and it was the first thing you came up with. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist 465	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:36:00 - [160] - Quote This thread makes my eyeballs bleed from the amount of tl;Dr needed. Let's get back to shooting from the hip. Maybe someone brave can sum up all I missed 5 pages ago. I'd appreciate that. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 438	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:39:00 - [161] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: This thread makes my eyeballs bleed from the amount of tl;Dr needed. Let's get back to shooting from the hip. Maybe someone brave can sum up all I missed 5 pages ago. I'd appreciate that. tl;dr Galm Fae Shut your mouth and look at these Jaegers. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:43:00 - [162] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I know they're the most boring of the 2 factions, but I'm interesting in your opinion, or what you would do differently. Well maybe with that opinion you should shouldn't be weighing in on either. [Stressful laughter and screaming from inside Galm's helmet] Seriously, I hate to shut you down since your ideas for the Amarr and Minmatar are on point but for the love of Tibus Heth don't take the Caldari from me. You ideas for them are feel kinda sub par and sound more like mercenary corporation names than an elite military regiment. That's something you can probably get away with in some of the other Empires, but the Caldari are by far the most militaristic and I'd like to see a proper unit being fleshed out like something equivalent to the 5th Dragonaurs Armored Division. And yes I am, in fact, still in favor of the 3rd "Ratestu" Special Jaeger Company. (I added the 3rd now because I didn't think about it until now and I like the number 3.) Because saying that Jaeger doesn't fit would be like arguing that the Amarr shouldn't use the term "Paladins" because it is technically a Frankish word. I beg of you, if you are really willing to forgo a hundred years of history because something 'sounds German' then please please please read up on the exploits of Simo Hayha, a White Guard (read jaeger trained) sniper who singlehandedly turned the tide of war in the Winter War. This dude was so badass he would shovel snow into his mouth so that his breath wouldn't reveal his shooting position to Russian troops and refused to use a telescopic sight when sniping because an iron sight gave him a lower profile when aiming. At some point he had entire teams of snipers and artillery units dispatched to have him killed, but he kept on fighting right up until the moment that an explosive bullet cleaved off half his face. He survived his injuries to go on and become a professional moose hunter and dog breeder until he died of old age in 2002. However, if even Rattati disagrees with me on this then feel free to replace "Special Jaeger Company" with the Suojeluskunta or "Civil Guard." In addition to being the Finn White Guard militia in the Finland Civil War, they were the force that trained (cough along with jaeger officers cough) Simo to become the force of nature that he was. Don't just force Goryo because it sounds right and it was the first thing you came up with. Look, I'm not trying to take anything away from you, nor do I have the power to. Rattati has the final say so. I will admit that you know Caldari stuff better than me, but you know, I don't have to agree with your ideas -- for the record, I don't think my ideas for Caldari are that great either, but I wanted to give it a shot after researching the State more and its demographics (and it made me dislike the Caldari even more . . . ugly ascetic life, the "non-entities," the fact that those born with mental and physical disabilities get dumped into that group, and the suicide rate!). I'm going to pretend I have power here and say fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine, I officially allow you to use Jaeger. I'm so benevolent. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:46:00 - [163] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: benandjerrys wrote: This thread makes my eyeballs bleed from the amount of tl;Dr needed. Let's get back to shooting from the hip. Maybe someone brave can sum up all I missed 5 pages ago. I'd appreciate that. tl;dr Galm Fae Shut your mouth and look at these Jaegers. I prefer these Jaegers Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:15:00 - [164] - Quote No offense galm, but I think that your names might be getting a little bit toooooo wordy. I do like Jaegers though, but it should be simplified down a little. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 438	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:24:00 - [165] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: No offense galm, but I think that your names might be getting a little bit toooooo wordy. I do like Jaegers though, but it should be simplified down a little. None taken, I was thinking that myself to be honest. The only reason why I kept adding onto it was because I was trying to make a military unit name and designation instead of just a title, just like how 'SEAL Team Six" is technically the Navy Special Warfare Development Group. I'd be fine with settling for something shorter, even if it omits the word 'jaeger' so long as in the lore it is specifically designated as a jaeger company. Maybe we could shorten the RSJC to something shorter the same way the Special Warfare group is just called DEVGRU. (pronounced 'dev-grew' or something like that.) *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 07:50:00 - [166] - Quote ^I'd made a short suggestion of "Rasetsu" Peacemakers (attached to the peacekeepers, something along the lines of that which cannot be defended will be avenged, peace that cannot be kept shall be made). I don't have any solid idea's for jaegers, but I do know wiyrkomi has been heavily invested in ground tech recently, maybe they could have minted their own Wiyrkomi Jaeger elites? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 08:40:00 - [167] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Don't just force Goryo because it sounds right and it was the first thing you came up with. Forgot to correct you, actually Goryo was the 6th thing I came up with, I had a list of names I was considering in an earlier post. Secondly, it's far from "forced," as it's violent ghostly meaning fits perfectly with stealthy and brutal military action. I could make a much stronger argument about "jaegers" being forced (I am petty enough). I do like the sound of Suojeluskunta though. I forgot to mention that. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.02 10:46:00 - [168] - Quote ....and this is what it degenerates into.... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Sgt Kirk Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.02 14:07:00 - [169] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ....and this is what it degenerates into.... Not with a bang...but with a mouthful of words, garbled and frustrated. Writhing of the body, frothing of the mouth the blueberry tries to utter the words, "Nouvelle Rouvenor" but can't because he has never had an encounter of letters in that formation before. He dies, agonizingly, slowly pleading for help as idiots pass him by with a Nanite Injectors in an enemy free area. They too are falling victim of the pronunciation disease. The logi with the Nanite Injector tries to sound out how Minmatar sounds in correct context, but to no avail. He looks up in the sky, shooting the Friendly MCC with his Assault Rail Rifle in revolt against god. It then hits the logi. What if this entire time he's been pronouncing "God" wrong? He proceeds to retract into the redline, crying to himself. Asking the being he thinks is called God, "why?" he spins circles in the redline throughout the rest of the match muttering the words "514" over and over again. The first bluedot who has still not spawned yet after dieing is about to be kicked from the match, but he's too busy typing 514 countless times in the teamchat to care. He is now kicked from the battle, there are not enough people to fight, as the linguistic virus has spread throughout nearly all of the remaining team. Another Negative Feedback win.... *Another typical DUST 514 pub match.* -A vote for me is a vote for us You can vote for CPM 2 [here]
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 18:55:00 - [170] - Quote I want to hear some Gallente ideas now! other than my glorious ones in post 145. Come one Gallente lore nerds! Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+

Sgt Kirk Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:47:00 - [171] - Quote I'd love to contribute but to my knowledge there aren't many things that weren't already mentioned. Of course there are the Federal Marines, which are an actual thing -A vote for me is a vote for us You can vote for CPM 2 [here]
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:08:00 - [172] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'd love to contribute but to my knowledge there aren't many things that weren't already mentioned. Of course there are the Federal Marines, which are an actual thing Which things mentioned are your top 5 favorites? Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Sgt Kirk Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.03 02:35:00 - [173] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I'd love to contribute but to my knowledge there aren't many things that weren't already mentioned. Of course there are the Federal Marines, which are an actual thing Which things mentioned are your top 5 favorites? I'm going to have to go with Legionaries. New Eden never really paid much attention to Gallente ground forces in detail in lore so creating new lore in an uncharted area doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. -A vote for me is a vote for us You can vote for CPM 2 [here]
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.03 23:36:00 - [174] - Quote Updated Sanguine Hand just a bit. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.04 00:19:00 - [175] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Updated Sanguine Hand just a bit (recruitment, and possible elite bodyguards), same with the Alukan Order (made them secretly accept contracts as elite mercenaries for some Amarr and Khanid corporations, and corrupt lords). Interesting but sadly of your numerous suggestions the ones I find least interesting. I'm more a fan of your others even if I do like the Alukan concept of biological armours. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.04 00:30:00 - [176] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Updated Sanguine Hand just a bit (recruitment, and possible elite bodyguards), same with the Alukan Order (made them secretly accept contracts as elite mercenaries for some Amarr and Khanid corporations, and corrupt lords). Interesting but sadly of your numerous suggestions the ones I find least interesting. I'm more a fan of your others even if I do like the Alukan concept of biological armours. That's totally alright. Anyway, I know you were reluctant to just make up groups, but please do. I'm interested in what you would come up with it. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.04 01:06:00 - [177] - Quote I've been looking through the resources on the PIE Alliance internal forums basically checking through the Amarrian Saint's thread for scraps of information. Two have really taken my fancy. St. Junip of Aerui, possibly and earn female Amarrian military leader during the Arthan Reclamations, and St Kuria, a convert suspected either Udorian or Minmatar, are primarily where I was going to draw inspiration from of an 'Order' of Soldiers. Aerui though we've no idea of its location is a fascinating word. The more interesting design I like is based off of the Hakhuron Shield primarily being founded by verterans of the bitter conflicts between the Ammatar and the Minmatar. I've a few more but I'd need to do some research first before presenting them. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist 498	Posted - 2015.08.04 04:11:00 - [178] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: benandjerrys wrote: This thread makes my eyeballs bleed from the amount of tl;Dr needed. Let's get back to shooting from the hip. Maybe someone brave can sum up all I missed 5 pages ago. I'd appreciate that. tl;dr Galm Fae Shut your mouth and look at these Jaegers. All is understood. +1 Shutting mouth for a lil bit. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist 498	Posted - 2015.08.04 04:13:00 - [179] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I've been looking through the resources on the PIE Alliance internal forums basically checking through the Amarrian Saint's thread for scraps of information. Two have really taken my fancy. St. Junip of Aerui, possibly and earn female Amarrian military leader during the Arthan Reclamations, and St Kuria, a convert suspected either Udorian or Minmatar, are primarily where I was going to draw inspiration from of an 'Order' of Soldiers. Aerui though we've no idea of its location is a fascinating word. The more interesting design I like is based off of the Hakhuron Shield primarily being founded by verterans of the bitter conflicts between the Ammatar and the Minmatar. I've a few more but I'd need to do some research first before presenting them. What would we do without you True? ...and my mouth was shut for like 5 minutes. I thought somebody would be campaigning in here after I posted... ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
DJINN Jecture Templar of the Glowing Blade 429	Posted - 2015.08.04 08:35:00 - [180] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Now to be completely honest this is a shameless plug but: The Templars of the Glowing Blade aka LogiBro or LogiSis by Gender not race, in fact there is a write up about it somewhere on the forums by my corp mate Draco Cerberus also a Closed Beta player but we don't see him around much anymore, here is a link for you: I am LOGI hear me ROAR! *DJINN Jecture speaks for herself, a Closed Beta Vet, still playing Eve and Dust*

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.07 12:08:00 - [181] - Quote Underdeveloped Caldari idea. [] Coalition: following the events of Caldari Prime in YC115, a joint military network was formed by Lai Dai, Wiyrkomi, Kaalakiota, and other corporations that fall within the militaristic "patriot" corporate faction. This joint military network was called the [] Coalition; it is an elite force sworn to defend the collective interests of the Caldari State. They operate in secret with very limited oversight. Little is publicly known about their activities, but reports suggest that they are recruiting veteran military and intelligence personnel. Immortal mercenaries loyal to the State have also been approached by the [] Coalition. As you can see, I haven't thought of a name yet, so anyone feel free to find a fitting name. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Mad Kras 323	Posted - 2015.08.10 22:20:00 - [182] - Quote How about this for minmatars? ----> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajduk Was re-reading a book about my country's military history and found it kinda fitting for the minnies, i know it doesn't sound exactly "nordic" but i still find it cool considering the RL story of this troops I'm aD1CKted to you <3
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.08.10 23:39:00 - [183] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc. What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen, I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor Amarr: Paladins, Crusader, Sentinel (since the amarr sentinel existed first) Minmatar: Valklear, Einherjar (volunteer soldiers), Berserker, Jarls, Jotunn, Vanir Caldari: more contemporary definition as the megacorps are highly traditional and conservative. Grenadiers, Shocktroopers, Elite Corps, Scout Snipers, Sappers, Etc. Gallente: More poetic and evocative names since Gallente seem to push style as well as function. Unit nicknames or descriptors mixed and matched eclectically to show the gallente diversity of personality: Federal Marines, Black Eagles, Rangers, Helldivers, Spartoi (supernatural warriors born of dragon's teeth), Special Operations Capable (SOC), Stalkers (infiltration and assault inside enemy lines), Etc. Dig where you're going with the gallente! Personally name my dropsuit setups per role along these lines. Marine Insertion Engineer Operator Special forces Force Recon Spartan Freedom fighter Comanche Black ops Wolf pack elite Etc. Love this idea rattati! Gives me one more reason to fight for the federation regardless to how many fair weather mercs fight for the state. Target rich environment in my opinion "Anybody order chaos?"
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.21 20:07:00 - [184] - Quote I still would like to know the purpose of the names/groups in regards to what Rattati plans. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
GENERAL FCF Sentinels of New Eden 104	Posted - 2015.08.23 14:09:00 - [185] - Quote Ooooo! Looks like we're going to get OP Gallante Sentinel suits!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!! Come on guys and gal's, give him some names! (Personally I like the Navy Seals of Gallante thingy) ergo I got nothin'.... Lol
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 19:39:00 - [186] - Quote Daemon Vherokior Elites Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master


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